November 03, 2004
Die, Monorail, Die

The Moronorail has survived the recall vote. Boy did I call that one wrong. I was certain that I-83 would pass by a large margin. Earlier this year when I was collecting signatures to put I-83 on the ballot I encountered broad and deep contempt for the Monorail. One guy grabbed for my petition clipboard and cheered "Give me that. I hate the f*cking Monorail".

Of course most people don't want to pay for and build the Moronorail. But take a look at the arguments that I-83 opponents made. They didn't argue in favor of the Monorail, they argued against the legitimacy of I-83. The "Build the Monorail" campaign said that I-83 Is An Illegal Initiative

When considering a vote for I-83, voters should be sure they are supporting an initiative that is actually legal and will be implemented if approved. As we've learned from people like Tim Eyman, any proposal that gains enough signatures can make a ballot. However, that does not mean that the proposal is legal under state law. Illegal initiatives only waste government tax dollars by creating lengthy court battles that end up with the rejection of the proposal.


The Seattle Times agreed that the process was faulty :

in the end, the monorail-recall campaign took an insincere route. If this is what voters want, call a recall a recall and follow the rules.

It is easy to say the monorail project is not what we bargained for, but in fairness, neither is the recall attempt. It is a shortcut and the wrong way to express anger at the monorail. Vote no on I-83.

The P-I concurred
Insufficient evidence exists for voters to make an informed decision.

Seattle voters have the right to re-examine the project if it's shown that the right system can't be built for the allotted funds. If so, it should be a reasoned, educated re-evaluation, not a "revote" of the original question.

Fair enough. So if the oppposition to I-83 was not an argument for the Monorail, but merely against the specific initiative to stop the Monorail, then the defeat of I-83 could not have been an affirmation of the Monorail, it was merely the agreement with the argument that I-83 was the "wrong way to express anger" at the Moronorail.

You know there will be more controversy as more information comes out about the Monorail -- the city financial review, the details in the still secret Cascadia bid. We have too many other more pressing transportation needs in this City to also pay for an amusement park train. I stick with my prediction that the Moronorail will not be built in our lifetime.

Posted by Stefan Sharkansky at November 03, 2004 09:04 PM | Email This
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1. This is going to sound unbelievable, but I've already talked to two people who said, "yeah, I voted 'no' because I'm against the monorail."
No wonder this idiotic project seems to survive.

Posted by: Colin on November 4, 2004 12:19 PM
2. Quite frankly, I gave up with my unhappines at the Monorail on Election Night. THIS was Seattle's chance to get rid of it. Voting against it tells ME that they want to build it. When people start complaining about costs, etc I'll just point back and go "You blew your chance to get rid of it"

Posted by: Sarah Schreffler on November 4, 2004 12:20 PM
3. I was against the monorail when I thought I'd be moving to Seattle, but I now live in Bellvue instead. I'll be looking forward to riding your fabulous, shiny new monorail all the way from Ballard to West Seattle and all stops in between! Zoooooommmm!

Posted by: Ken J on November 4, 2004 12:30 PM
4. Don't worry, you'll get your chance, I'm sure. Already there is an effort underway to get the monorail extended over to the Eastside, presumably so they let us share in the joy of $300 car tab increases...

Posted by: Vexorg on November 4, 2004 01:33 PM
5. What's 300 bucks compared to all the fun of riding the monorail all the way from Newport Hills to West Seattle? It'll be like Disneyland! Yay! Next stop Ogdenville!

Posted by: Ken J on November 4, 2004 03:01 PM
6. I'm not against monorail, but the route through downtown and to Ballard is not the best possible.

A Waterfront route is better than 2nd Avenue. With the Alaskan Way Viaduct gone there are many advantages there: replace lost views; plenty room for stanchions and stations; complimentary construction scheduling; best access to arenas, ferries, waterfront, Pioneer Square, Pike Place Market.

Seattle needs better E/W bus service between the Waterfront and Capitol/First Hills; not duplicative N/S transit along 1st/3rd corridor. Waterfront Monorail initiates a 'grid system' for the whole downtown. Tired of uphill trudgery?

Route the monorail along I-99, above Battery, through Denny Triangle and skirt Lake Union, then up Dexter for connections to Upper Queen Anne and Aurora, then down to serve Fremont but stay on Westlake to SPU, then tunnel under the shipping canal and into Ballard. This route serves MANY more neighborhoods and growing districts and preserves the existig monorail.

A proposal titled, "The Seattle Circulator Plan" combines this Waterfront Route with a complimentary expansion of the exiting monorail. This "Circulator Monorail" (Blueline) adds ONLY 4 miles of low-impact, low-cost 'single-track' to circle Seattle Center on the north, and circle downtown, First and Capitol Hills on the south. It runs ONLY 4 trains at 5 MINUTE intervals to 10 high-demand destingations: Westlake Mall, Downtown Library, Harborview, Seattle University-Swedish Hospital, City College, Convention Place Station, and 4 stations for Seattle Center, one, a maintenance facility 'atop' Mercer parking garage. Its cost estimated at $500 million.

The Circulator Monorail was first proposed and submitted in 2000 and subsequently many times to agency and organization deaf ears with contrary agendas. Seattle dinkers with a poorly designed Greenline Monorail and blacklisted a low-cost Circulator Monoral. Go figure.


Posted by: Art Lewellan on November 4, 2004 04:18 PM
7. The monorail is hardly the disaster that SoundTransit is. Seattle does need some form of rail, and Ballard to WestSeattle makes lot of since for a starter line. It major points of downtown, and connects previous two previously unconnected residential areas. This will free up buses and traffic in downtown, allowing for more east-west buses. As a long time bus rider, I know that these north south buses take a long, long time, and I am greatful for any new start. We've got to start somewhere, and the monorail cannot go where the lightrail is already going. The monorail is a good thing.

Posted by: Sean on November 4, 2004 06:34 PM
8. I'm with Sean.

Picture Sound Transit trying to do exactly the same route the Monorail is taking. (Which is on the 'full plan' for light rail.)

It isn't the monorail so much as the _only_ way to put a stake into Sound Transit's 'full light rail plan'.

I recognize you fully expect the monorail to go drastically over budget - but please compare 14 miles of monorail with two water crossings through the center of downtown to 14 miles of light rail with zero water crossings and more than 5x the operational expenses. Now remember that the next leg of Sound Transit to the U District is planned to be a tunnel and start adding zeros to the price.

_If_ the monorail is on track and less than, say 50% over budget, which of these two things would you want _NEXT_.

1) 2.4 Billion extension of light rail through Capital Hill to the Ave. (Not Northgate, that's more)
2) $800 million extension of the monorail to Northgate then south to Capitol Hill. (Crown hill-to-NG = 3 miles, NG-to-water = 3 miles depending on choice of crossing.)

Posted by: Al on November 5, 2004 11:13 AM
9. Al -- None of the above

Posted by: Stefan Sharkansky on November 5, 2004 11:15 AM
10. I'm not saying a West Seattle to Ballard monorail is bad. I'm all for it. But the Seattle Center - Interbay Route to Ballard can never serve as many people nor influence as much development as a Waterfront, Lake Union, Dexter, Westlake, SPU, then to Ballard route. The West Seattle route I'm sure could be improved if it at least reached nearer Fauntleroy ferry terminal.

The best routes are vital to serve the most riders, and to influence the most development for future riders. Why pick the less productive routes? For example:

The light rail plan makes the same error of route selection in bypassing South Center, the only major destination along the southern route; a destination more important than the airport. Thousands ride transit daily to South Center whose major development plans predict greater demand for transit that justify a direct rail route. Without South Center, the trains will run mostly empty southbound, mostly empty both directions most of the time. Only during rush hours will Link trains reach capacity or more likely overwhelmned in the commute direction. Fearful of competition, downtown Seattle retailers said no to the Direct Route through South Center. Boeing said no. Renton said no and wants a freeway instead. Tukwila fought valiantly for the Direct Route but were overwhelmned by the powerful who derive income from selling, financing, insuring, advertizing, maintaining, etc etc, automobiles, and do not want transit built to higher standards. Yeah, you heard me.

Posted by: Art Lewellan on November 5, 2004 01:05 PM
11. I'm FOR the monorail, for one reason only...the cool factor. I admit, I was pretty PO'd at the almost $100 bucks I shelled out for my new car tag, but oh well! I still want it. It may end up being impractical, it may end up costing a hell of a lot more than anticipated, but I've lived in many large cities around the country, and having a monorail would be cool! Some things I support for selfish reasons...like this. I also support the no-smoking-in-public-restaurants, even though it goes against my viewpoint to keep the government the hell out of our lives, and it reeks of government-intrusion-incrementalism. It's totally selfish of me, I admit. But I can't stand smoke! Everytime I hear one of these lung-destroying idiots claim they have a "right" to smoke, I just want to squirt them and their cig's with a water gun. It's definitely less dangerous than smoke, won't hurt their clothes when it dries, so what's the harm? Oh, it might pi** them off that I am doing something to THEM that they don't like? Hmmm, maybe I'll get really drunk one night (so I don't feel the pain of my teeth being knocked out) and try this in a smokey bar.

Posted by: Bruce on November 9, 2004 11:54 AM
12. You elitist, scumbag HummerHeads never learn, the monorail can NEVER be stopped ...

http://www.monorailrecoil.tk

You don't understand that FEUDAL governance can never be defeated. It's the next best thing to divine right of kings.

Get over your 18th century obsession with the obsolete "democratic Republic" - that oppressive Eurotrash ideal is over.

Wise, educated, egalitarian, unelected leaders know what's best for your familes - pay the tax and shut up! And when SMP goes over budget, pay that too!

Posted by: Monomaniacal Hegemonist on November 15, 2004 01:09 PM
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