March 12, 2005
Irons Launches Challenge To King County Exec

The table in King County Executive Ron Sim's office is a big one, bigger than many boardroom tables, but there aren't enough people invited to sit there, share their views and work with Sims on pressing regional issues such as transportation, land use regulation, homelessness and election reform. So said Sims' Republican challenger, current County Council member David Irons, in announcing his candidacy today.

Speaking to a group of supporters, and media at the Hampton Inn in Seattle's Lower Queen Anne neighborhood, Irons charged Sims has been a divider not a uniter: that county elections snafus have festered for years; that social services to assist the homeless are uncoordinated; that regional transportation improvements are undercut by turf battles between local governments and the county; and that the county's Critical Areas Ordinance was so poorly drafted rural property owners must wend through bureacracy just to cut weeds on their land.

The two-term suburban Seattle council member supported the successful effort to reduce the size of the council from 13 members to 9; perhaps not so coincidentally, his district was one of those eliminated. Rather than run against GOP ally and current council member Kathy Lambert in a newly-drawn district, and with Sims more vulnerable than at any previous time in his two terms, Irons is shooting for the executive suite.

Irons is not a dynamic public speaker by any stretch of the imagination. His delivery today was at times hesitant, and fairly passionless when reciting scripted "messages." However, Irons seems to come alive when talking policy, and manages to do it without seeming terribly wonk-ish. This could be a strength at the retail level when campaigning to suburban neighborhood associations, and other mid- to small-sized groups.

Of the four issue areas he focused on at the announcement, transportation was his real passion, and as it happens, that, and restoring trust in government, are probably the biggest concerns of the crucial suburban electorate in King County. Irons talked with convincing ease and authority about things like High Occupancy Toll lanes (he's for 'em); tolls on a rebuilt Evergreen Point/Route 520 floating bridge (ditto); and told a wry story about a conversation with a German elected official who couldn't believe we subsidize unprofitable transit routes here.

How do we fund the billions in major road, bridge and viaduct projects the region needs? Irons said only that there'll have to be a combination of federal and state funds, and the Regional Transportation Investment District board, upon which he sits, will have a plan out next month, including two revenue sources. I know one. Can anyone spell g-a-s t-a-x h-i-k-e?

Candidate Irons and his policy advisors should really seize the debate and simultaneously play to Seattle-ites by getting creative on transportation funding. For example, what about advocating county leadership on a push for a state constitutional amendment to allow tax increment financing (TIF)? TIF is used in other states for redeveloping blighted areas, and is one idea brewing at the Cascadia Project of The Discovery Institute in Seattle for generating revenues to replace the aged, crumbling Alaskan Way Viaduct on Seattle's downtown waterfront with a tunnel.

With a two-thirds vote from the legislature, and public approval, TIF funding could become legal in Washington. TIF bonds could be floated against the rise in property values, and thus tax revenues, from parcels where water and mountain views are now blocked by the earthquake-prone Viaduct; and against the rise in property values when underutilized or atrocious places like Pier 48, Pier 54, Pier 55 and the "historic," wino-encrusted Washington Street Public Boat Landing are redeveloped in concert with a tunnel replacement for The Viaduct.

Just a thought. But to widen the opening given his candidacy by all that's gone wrong on Sims' watch, Irons will need to make good on his pledge to be not only a "regional facilitator" but a visionary as well. He'll also need to get a good deal more specific about homelessness and election reform. But there's time for that.

The last Republican executive of King County was Tim Hill, a Seattle resident. He was defeated in 1993 by Gary Locke. Irons has a far better chance than either Santos Contreras or Suzette Cooke, both good people, but marginal candidates who were no match for Sims in previous elections. Cooke was an ex-state legislator, Conteras a suburban city council member. Irons, in contrast, is a sitting member of the county council who has earned some political credits as a reformer (council size reduction) and gadfly (elections division critic, and opponent of the county's footsie game with Cuba), while still wearing a pro-development, busiiness-friendly mantle. Further, his own base is in the voter-rich eastern suburbs of Seattle that will be crucial in this election.

Let's hope the Irons campaign takes a page from the successful Bush effort last fall, using grassroots boosters to spread the word to friends and neighbors. In addition, the candidate will need to get in front of a lot of community and neighborhood groups. A policy-oriented candidate such as Irons would also be well-served by a campaign blog that helps illuminate his ideas with news from the broader world. Most candidate blogs to date have been a shabby re-hash of the candidate's Web site, with a few links to stories about the candidate thrown in.

To volunteer for the Irons campaign or contribute, call 425-313-9536. They'll be getting a campaign Web site up and running before too long, I'd guess.

Posted by Matt Rosenberg at March 12, 2005 03:47 PM | Email This
Comments
1. I would like to hear more about this anecdote:

"...and told a wry story about a conversation with a German elected official who couldn't believe we subsidize unprofitable transit routes here."

A couple of years ago, the total "mass transit" subsidy from taxpayers in WA was about 1.3 billion dollars a year. I haven't looked to see if anyone has provided a more recent total, since it's too painful to look at that figure and consider what an utter waste of government revenue it represents.

That's enough to build a Tacoma Narrows Bridge every year and still have 500 or 600 million dollars left over.

How much do you need to replace the viaduct on the Seattle waterfront? One or two years' worth of "mass transit" subsidy?

How much to build a new floating bridge across Lake Washington? Six months' worth of that subsidy?

How much to replace half the Hood Canal Bridge? A few months of that wasted subsidy?

If we weren't blowing more than a billion dollars a year out the tailpipes of single-occupant-buses, maybe we could build the roads, bridges and viaducts we need to build in this state with the taxes we are already paying.

Maybe -- except that somehow the people who worship at the altar of "mass transit" have to be brought around to the realization that wasting revenue offering rides to people who don't want them or subsidizing the commuting expense of people who can pay their own way is indeed a waste of revenue.

If we could just get them to set aside their article of faith for a few years and let us put that revenue to good use, we could get the transportation infrastructure repaired and improved. Then, if anyone wanted to go back to pouring money into "mass transit," they could.

Posted by: Micajah on March 12, 2005 04:10 PM
2. Just remember, Simms is still in charge of counting the votes!

Posted by: Vince Callaway on March 12, 2005 04:13 PM
3. Why is it Democrats run ALL the corrupt major cities? [Philly....Detroit, Chicago, San Francisco, LA, etc] All filled with Democrat voters, and all a mess.

Posted by: JCH on March 12, 2005 04:19 PM
4. I would only ask that everyone consider what kind of person Mr. Irons is before they throw their support behind him simply because he is a Republican. His campaign to the King County Council was not a model for a candidate with integrity. He was accused of a myriad of actions in that race, including hiding campaign contributors with a loan that was eventually found to have been in violation of the law. No one should overlook that he was strongly opposed by his own parents and one of his sisters. Not just casually, but so strongly that they launched a failed write-in campaign at considerable expense to prevent his election.

My personal struggle is with a Republican Party that is controlled by the Chris Vances, who themselves are controlled by the building industry. With this disaster of a top 2 election, I don't know how we ever will get a real Republican (conservative, opposing both social and CORPORATE WELFARE) elected ever again.

Trees or pavement? It's a LOSE - LOSE with the game stacked against the candidate that hasn't sold out to either extreme.

Posted by: Mike on March 12, 2005 04:28 PM
5. Darn, I don't live in KingCo.
But what the hell...why should that stop me!
I used to live in KingCo.
I feel like I live in KingCo because those idiots make every effort to control the entire state.
I think I will become "homeless" and register.
Irons will need a big-time registration boost to overcome the KingCo BS factor.
Perhaps people from around our fair state also "feel" like they live in KingCo.
Homeless Republicans----that'll help.

Posted by: Mr. Cynical on March 12, 2005 04:47 PM
6. Did the German official also gasp at the absurdly low prices we pay for gasoline? Maybe if we paid as much as the Germans (over $6/gallon) people would think twice about commuting several miles per day. Maybe people would think more about using mass transit. Maybe that's why mass transit gets used and doesn't require subsidies in Germany. Just a couple thoughts - you really can't compare our mass transit to European mass transit when they pay so much for gas and have such dense populations.

Posted by: colin on March 12, 2005 06:04 PM
7. another thought - I bet the only thing less popular than a state income tax will be tolls on our freeways. Traffic is horrendous enough, commuters from the Eastside (read - more likely to be Republican) will hate the idea of tolls and will vote against Irons for that reason alone.

Posted by: colin on March 12, 2005 06:07 PM
8. "Why is it Democrats run ALL the corrupt major cities? [Philly....Detroit, Chicago, San Francisco, LA, etc] All filled with Democrat voters, and all a mess.

Posted by JCH at March 12, 2005 04:19 PM"

I would guess that democrats run "ALL" the major cities because they are "filled with democrat voters." Sometimes the answer is right there in the question.

Posted by: Eric on March 12, 2005 09:26 PM
9. Mike and everyone else

As far as the party being controlled by the chris vance
crowd.Have no fear that is about in all
likelyhood to come to an end.

Vance has gotten himself in some big
time trouble with the state executive board.
I don't believe he will be able to worm
his way out of it this time.

Posted by: phil spackman on March 12, 2005 10:15 PM
10. Germany may not subsidize unprofitable tranist systems, but most of those transit systems they have are not bus only. Berlin, Frankfurt, Augsburg, Liepzig, Cologne, Essen are among the many that use streetcars.

I would like to see High Occupancy Toll Lanes, but combined with a concept known as the FAIR lane.

I am getting tired of those who think one-solution fits all is the aproach to fix our traffic. That goes for monorail advocates, light rail activists, highway activists, streetcar activists, free bus activists and so on. I think that the best transit mode for the corridor is what should be used. All sides have to get together to decide what is the best. In the case of Pacific Highway South, a combination of two modes would be the best. Extend Central Link from S. 200th St to Downtown Tacoma, wiith a monorail running as an express track. Since I know that is expensive, I would just go for crossovers on the Light Rail corridor at every station to allow express trains to overtake.

The Valley Freeway corridor needs HOT Lanes, it already has corresponding rail transit. SOUNDER. I do not think HOT lanes will help a bus or car get from S. King St.and 4th Ave to Downtown Kent in 20 minutes at Rush Hour. SOUNDER leaves King St. Station at 4:45PM, reaches Tukwilla Station at 5:01PM, then pulls into Kent at 5:08, then in about 10 minutes reaches Auburn.

I would like to see Tax Increment Financing used for transit projects, with a twist. In addition to a property tax, allow a small sales tax to also help pay off the bonds, .1% sounds good.

Posted by: MASSTRANSITFAN on March 12, 2005 10:22 PM
11. "MassTransitFan" suggested higher taxes, thereby forcing me to suffer the pain of looking to see what the latest annual subsidy was. (That's it for another year or so. I can only stand to look once in a great while. It's such a waste of revenue!)

In 2003, $1.6 billion was spent on mass transit in WA. Of that total, only $131 million came from fares and "vanpool revenue" (which I suppose is paid by the vanpool riders, but maybe not).

The report was done in Nov. 2004, so it's apparently the latest available info.

So, should we be considering higher taxes to pay for more spending on transportation needs, or isn't $1.5 billion a year enough to blow out the exhaust pipes of under-used buses and railcars? Couldn't we divert some of that wasted subsidy of mass transit into building bridges, viaducts and roads?

Posted by: Micajah on March 12, 2005 10:43 PM
12. Tonight I went to the store, walked a mile to get to a bus, and that was the #7. Coming back, it was hard to find a seat on the 60ft. Bus. The reason, it was full. The bus being used was one of the tunnel buses, since the commuter routes that even I agree run empty, do not run on Sunday, so Metro uses them on city routes. I think the shotgun merger of Seattle Transit and Metro was a bad idea, Seattle had just scrapped the indepdent, unresponsive commission that oversaw Seattle Transit only 2 years earlier. Shows how our voters lack long term vision. Rail is permanent, it will encourage development. I also want a stronger enforcement of the Subarea Equity Rule of Sound Transit. I want any money raised through bonding tax revenue to be spent in the subarea where the tax money is collected.

I am not suggesting spending more tax money on transit. The idea of LRT along the entire Pacific Highway route to Downtown Tacoma is that I would have a small taxing distrcit for TIF, about 4 blocks on either side of the alignment. Also, the last 1.6 miles into Downtown Tacoma is already operation, all they would have to do when the line reaches Tacoma Dome Station is double track the single-tracked portion of the route, and upgrade the voltage to 1500 Volts, which the seattle sysetm will use.

In Portland, they are to scared to spend some money that will eventually reduce operating costs on MAX. TriMet carries 91 Million riders, just 9 million short of Metro, but a third of the riders ride MAX. The Airport Line was criticized as being a train to nowhere, but came in handy on Day 2 of operation. The first Red Line Trains went on line, September 10, 2001. Stranded travelers the next day needed to get to hotels, or possibly Portland Union Station to catch Amtrak or Greyhound.

The Friday before last night, I rode SOUNDER to Tacoma, to see if people like you are right. I am sorry to admit, you are wrong. The week before the one that just ended, they were dealt two emergencies that should have discouraged ridership, the Sumner Cafe Fire on Tuesday, and the BNSF Dispatchers 2 hour strike(gotta love the Railway Labor Act) on Wensday. The train was still full. I boarded in Kent, and thought only 2 people would be waiting for the train, it was thirty. There was also one stop between Seattle and Kent. I could not find a seat on the train if I had boarded at King Street Station.(I had been in Renton looking for a Skippers, cannot find one in Seattle.)

Posted by: MASSTRANSITFAN on March 12, 2005 11:06 PM
13. I'm sorry....but a negative - lukewarm at best -announcement of Irons intention to run against Sims...as made by Matt (the guy who doesn't mind tramping on civil rights if they happen to include actions he isn't tolerant of..ie; smoking cigarettes ) is worthy of another opinion.

Think about it Matt....ANYONE is better than Ron Sims. Would you be willing to risk having Ron Sims as KC Exec for another term...just because you have a *suspicion* that Irons may want to increase gas taxes? A completely unfounded fear?

There is absolutely NOTHING to back up your fears about David Irons...but there is PLENTY to validate our fears about Ron Sims!

I just don't know where your head is at.....To dis' a valid conservative candidate on the day he announces his run against Sims...makes me go hmmmm....

I guess I will just accept that you and I are not like-minded.

Posted by: Deborah on March 12, 2005 11:25 PM
14. I would like to see a fairly elected council, one where the marginalized parties can win. Seattle Republicans, whose party left them at least a decade ago, and Rural Democrats, whose party also left them sometime ago. I am following the upcoming election North of the 49th in BC. First, I wonder if the Liberal Party will lose, and by how much. They can lose 30 seats and still be in the Majority. They use the same voting method we do. It could change, there is a refferendum on the ballot that will allow for the use of Proportional Representation in Multi-Seat Districts. It is the product of a Citizen's Commission convened by Premier Gordon Campbell. You would think a Liberal Party would win major cities like Vancouver, Victoria, Kamloops, but not places like Campbell River, Abbotsford, Kelowna, Dawson's Creek(It is a real town), Fort Nelson, Fort St. James, Nanaimo, Nelson, Lake Louise. These are rural and suburban districts.

I think Irons's plan to cut the Council in size was the right thing to do, but he went about it the wrong way. It should have been 3 districts, with three seat districts. Using Single-Transferable Vote, a Seattle Republican would need only 25% of the vote to win, same with a rural Democrat. You see, Irons wanted 3 Districts representing unincorporated King County, 3 Districts represnting suburban King County, and 3 Representing Seattle.

Seattle had two Charter Ammendments in 2003 regarding council elections, I hoped both made the ballot, but only one did. That was districts, the other was PR. It failed to get enough signatures because few people knew what it was. The City Council is unresponsive.

(Also, I have pictures of various transit facilities on my Webshots page, including of a bus in Victoria that I think Metro should try.)

Posted by: MASSTRANSITFAN on March 13, 2005 12:11 AM
15. YEAH DAVID!!! Thank you, Thank You, Thank You.

I'll call Monday to volunteer, in the meen time, send me a bumper sticker a.s.a.p.
Awe heck, I'll get some shoe polish for now.

And Mr Cynical, you don't have to live in King County to vote in King County. Drive over precinct 1823, say your homeless and write your name without the middle initial.

Posted by: chardonnay on March 13, 2005 01:20 AM
16. Irons's family was against his last candidacy because they are democrats!

Posted by: Michele on March 13, 2005 01:28 AM
17. Michelle

I remember hearing how they get in fights, and not just the brother/sister kind, it was during the campaign in 2003 that I heard it. If only the Democrats had somebody other than Party Turncoat Brian Derdowksi running against Irons.

Posted by: MASSTRANSITFAN on March 13, 2005 01:51 AM
18. Take Sims out. I'll donate as soon as a web based donation is available. Sims has blood on his hands from this past election, and the CAO is one of the biggest examples of government overreach in many years.

Take Sims out!

Posted by: Jeff B. on March 13, 2005 01:12 PM
19. If they don't get this election mess cleaned up before the next election, I'll be happy to be "homeless" in King County. Giving the King County a little taste of it's own elitist medicine would be very, VERY satisfying.

Posted by: JRR on March 13, 2005 05:10 PM
20. Wow! David Irons is the best that we can come up with? Yeah, I guess he's better than Ron Sims, but hard to get excited.

Posted by: Susan on March 13, 2005 05:30 PM
21. I'd be happy to see anyone in there but Sims. I'll give money as soon as the web site is up.

But, I'm not optimistic. First, the election system that allows magically appearing ballots to be counted is not fixed. Worse, Sims controls it.

Second, Seattle is full of unrealistic idiots. They will vote for Sims no matter what.

Third, Irons is a somewhat weak candidate. He's had very little impact on the council and is not considered much of a leader within the part in the area.

However, the option of getting a lot of homeless republicans from outside King County is a good one. People can still register City Hall as their home address, so people from across the country should be doing that, with the intention of voting for Irons.

Posted by: DeadManVoting (aka Iguana) on March 13, 2005 06:05 PM
22. I'm inclined to agree that there's not much chance that anyone's going to be able to get rid of Ron Sims and the Seattle Dems' political machine. Even if the elections board wasn't utterly incompetent and rife with corruption, there's too much of Seattle looking for the "Progressivist" style leadership Sims provides. I'd be willing to bet that Hugh Chavez or Robert Mugabe could get elected in Seattle pretty easily if they ran for office.

Posted by: Vexorg on March 13, 2005 06:18 PM
23. ER, make that Hugo Chavez...

Posted by: Vexorg on March 13, 2005 06:19 PM
24. Irons's best chance is that Talmadge does not run, the new Top Two Primary will be in effect, and the GOP's worst fear about it could come true. That is once again, one of the main reasons, that our current Plurality method has to change. The winner must have a majority.

Posted by: MASSTRANSITFAN on March 13, 2005 08:14 PM
25. Irons will make a fine KC Exec. I applaud his decision to run.

Posted by: PERSONALAUTOMOBILEFAN on March 13, 2005 08:51 PM
26. After the CAO, and all his other tax happy BS, I hope he is toast. I will guarantee that the donations from people all over rural King County will get the word out about his land stealing and tax happy BS. Having said that I am sure Dean logan (unless he gets his hands slapped and thrown in jail for his BS election antics)will find as many votes as are necesary to get his big boss man back in office!

Posted by: GS on March 13, 2005 10:20 PM
27. A couple of comments in response to Mike:
1. You have to consider the context of the feud that cropped up in 1999 between Irons and his parents and sister. His relatives were big Derdowski supporters and were part of the "no-growth" crowd in the Plateau area.
2. The state Republican party is not owned by the builders. The builders have such influence because the state party is so weak. Many candidates know that if you want action, you go to the BIAW, not the state Republican board or Chris Vance. It's with good reason that some people consider Tom McCabe to be the real state party chair.

Posted by: Ricky on March 14, 2005 12:54 AM
28. I myself got some problems with Ron Sims. Is hatred for Conservatives, even ones that are no longer with us, that bad, that he is willing to congest Alaksan Way, possibly ruining a district of the city that Seattle has worked for 20 years to clean up? The Waterfront. The Seatlte Art Museum is planning to tear down the maintenance shack for the Waterfront Streetcar, International District merchants are opposed to the idea of extending the Waterfront Streetcar line to Ryerson Base, so they can use an existing Metro facilty. Where Ron Sims is at fault, is that Metro new for 5 years that the property the shack sits on is going to be demolished.

The conservative angle, is in 2002, King County Metro, in honor of Route 99(official route number of the line)'s 20th anniversary, named it the George Benson Waterfront Streetcar Line. George Benson was the line's champion, and one of the last, if not the last, conservatives on the Seattle City Council. The cars, he got for Seattle, were at a cheap price, in fact, it cost more to ship them from Austrailia to Seattle.

I am not against cars, just the gas guzzlers that have one occupant that clog our highways. I would like pedestrians to have their rights restored. I nearly lost my mom to a driver who was not looking, while she was legally crossing a street at a crosswalk on Broadway. She lived, but it was close. Even after that incident, I am not opposed to cars, I just want the discrimination against pedestrians and transit that the highway lobby has orchestrated to end.

Seattle once had a good system, but in 1963, against all logic, Seattle Transit axed half the electric bus route system. In 1964 they posted a deficit of $1 million, the year before, they had a profit of $1 million. Imagine what the cost of paying for diesel for the majority of your fleet, after having not to do it for 23 years.(Quoting the 1963 case.)

I would vote for Talmadge instead of Sims. I think I remember meeting Sims twice. (Kingdome Employees reunion in 1999, and once at a Safeway Store in the neighborhood), and Talmadge once(He adressed a political science class I was taking at SCCC). I have never met Irons.

Posted by: MASSTRANSITFAN on March 14, 2005 04:26 AM
29. Back when we were discussing splitting the state, I said I was opposed to it, because the Two Washingtons needed to be together. King County is a different story, we have three distinct regions in the county that have grown too far apart. The Rural East, Suburban King County, and Seattle.

Perhaps in this talk about who would be a good conservative King County Executive, we should discuss a split. Seattle, Shoreline, Mercer Island, Skyway, and White Center could become the City and County of Seattle. I threw Shoreline and Mercer Island into it, because we need to have some Republicans and Maverick Democrats in it. The Suburban King County, I would call Lake County, would have the I-405 Corridor, and South King County. Rural King County would become Cedar or Cascade County, whichever they prefer.

City-Counties are legal in Washington State, I actually checked the State Constitution on that one.

Posted by: MASSTRANSITFAN on March 14, 2005 04:33 AM
30. "My personal struggle is with a Republican Party that is controlled by the Chris Vances, who themselves are controlled by the building industry. With this disaster of a top 2 election, I don't know how we ever will get a real Republican (conservative, opposing both social and CORPORATE WELFARE) elected ever again."

I good to see someone else recognizes the real problem with Republican Party.

Posted by: M&M on March 14, 2005 08:17 AM
31. For Ricky and others,

Whatever you want to say about Derdowski, his actions were not driven to stop growth, but to make growth pay its way. His fight to oppose taxpayer funding of roads was designed to force local governments to levy the legally mandated impact fees on developers. This would have restrained growth to that which could be supported with infrastructure, and would have protected the taxpayers from subsidizing so much growth, including tens of billions today in unfunded road projects that Vance, Hague, McKenna, Sullivan and others worked to shift from the builders to the taxpayers.

King County's pro-development positions and fraud committed in DOT and DDES was so bad that Sammamish had to break away and the first thing the new city did was to impose a moratorium. With the defeat by the building industry of all 7 of the sensible growth candidates in the Sammamish City Council elections, thousands of bogus King County permits (approved based on alleged fraudulent traffic studies) were left unchallenged by the new city, and that explains the thousands of homes built and under construction in the new city since it imposed its "moratorium".

Irons has no integrity. He took out a personal loan to fund his early campaign so the builders could pay it off when it was too late for the public to see who was pulling his strings. He ran an illegal commercial that impersonated Derdowski with no disclaimer, suggesting that Derdowski was the reason for Sammamish's road problems, when more roads would only have justified even more development and made the problems in Sammamish worse. Irons was even caught red-handed stealing Derdowski signs, and found to have violated PDC filing rules, and more.

Yes, Irons' parents and sister supported Derdowski, because they understood more about their son/brother than anyone else. They also understood that Derdowski was fighting for the taxpayer and not the builders that were gridlocking roads with unrestrained development. They felt so strongly, based on reasons never made public, that they took personal steps to try to prevent what they saw as a potential disaster should their son be elected.

If Irons is the best that King County Republicans can do, we don't deserve to win anything. It's the Irons, Vances, Hagues and McKennas that will drive more smart and responsible people like Derdowski out of the party or out of politics altogether and leave conservatives without any choices.

Posted by: Mike on March 14, 2005 09:22 AM
32. Mike and others,
Do you really _know_ David Irons or are you just spitting back rumors you've heard from others and all you read in the press? Not only is David far better than Ron (admitedly, that's really not saying anything) but he is one of the best candidates the GOP has put up in a long time, along the lines of Rossi and McKenna (and at this point, Mike, I really have to call BS on your comment that included McKenna in the list or bad Republicans. Maybe he doesn't fit into your view of Republicanism but what would you rather have? A wise man once said, don't make the perfect the enemy of the good. And furthermore, if you don't like any of the candidates out there, why don't you run? But study politics a bit first, I think you'll find that ideology plays a very small role in it. Compromise is the real name of the game.

Posted by: Mark Griswold on March 14, 2005 11:14 AM
33. Go David!

Posted by: Mark Griswold on March 14, 2005 11:15 AM
34. I don't know where to begin. Do I know Dave Irons Jr.? I have had exchanges with him in forums and via email. I know his father, met his sister, and was very much involved in the 2003 election when Derdowski's party change forced me to abandon direct support. I knew about some of the things that the public was not told, but Irons' dishonesty and smarmy campaign tactics turned my stomach all by itself.

I pushed for PDC investigations over his fraudulent radio commercial, his refusal to submit timely PDC reports, and the loan that the PDC eventually found to have been illegal, but excused because the PDC took responsibility for the error in not affirming its illegality to Irons when asked.

As for McKenna, he's well-known as a good, loyal "bought and paid for" Republican. Former member of the "Gang of Four". Completely loyal to the building industry and the billions in Corporate Welfare spread out among the construction industries. When King County or the state comes to you and asks if you'll increase your taxes to pay for unfunded roads, you can thank McKenna. Like Vance's attempt at the Superintendent of Public Instruction position, funded by the building industry in recognition of a job well done, McKenna is the builders' dream in the AGs office.

Why don't I run? Well I've considered it. But every shread of evidence I've seen indicates that I could never win. Without a strong party to back a candidate, any principled candidate is chum in the waters for special interests that will invent anything they need to to win. I could never run as a Democrat. I'm very conservative. But the cost of admission to the Republican Party in King County is to become a redistributor of wealth to the growth industries. Sorry, I can't do that either.

I watched, for example, while good people were smeared by anonymous direct mailings in the Sammamish race, and the press refused to even report what had happened. I've had many, many dealings myself with all the area papers, law enforcement agencies and supposed government self-policing agencies like the Ombudsman. The one thread that they all have is their allegiance, or fear, of going up against the building industry.

So where does that leave a convervative in Western Washington?

I am not asking for perfect. I'm asking for better, and I'm suggesting that having an "R" after a candidates name is insufficient reason to be satisfied.

Posted by: Mike on March 14, 2005 11:53 AM
35. oh Phil, stop. I have it on excellent good authority that Chris Vance's position of State Chair is not in jeopardy in any way, and he has run the party in completely legal fashion, and completely ethically. Check your facts before you post publicly! Chris has done an excellent job of marshalling the resources for the Revote litigation and organization efforts, and saying anything else is not only preposterous...if there was anything there it would have already been on the front page of the Seattle P-I, pu-leeze...

Posted by: dougt on March 14, 2005 01:26 PM
36. First of all, dougt, thank you. While many of us like to berate Chris for some of the things he's done and we all joke at times about how nobody likes him, the truth is he has done a pretty decent job as state chairman. Pefect? hardly, but as I stated before, let's not make the perfect the enemy of the good. I wholeheartedly supported Chris in his most recent "race" for the position and, let's just look at the facts. Under his watch, Republicans doubled their hold on statewide office (although one was stolen away) and we hung on to all three of our congressional districts.
As far as you're concerned Mike, I'm sorry you don't know David for the decent, honest man that he is and that you've been jaded by who knows what. Reading your posts and your attacks on other decent folks like Rob, I wonder if you are even really a Republican. A friend of mine who is a pretty staunch Democrat even voted for Rob after we walked with him during the AIDS walk last summer and she came away very impressed by his genuineness and honesty.
As far as not running because you'd be slaughtered without the support of a party, well, the Republican Party is a big tent(just look at the differences between Alan Keyes and Arnold Swarzeneggar). If you don't like the way it's being represented why not change it from within. Put your money where your mouth is, so to speak, and show some courage by standing up for what you believe in. You never know unless you try and what, other than a few months of your professional or social life, do you have to lose? Heck, I ran as a Republican in the 43rd leg district (Seattle) last year. Of course I lost, as I knew I would, but it doesn't mean my efforts were in vain. And what if Lincoln had given up after his first loss, or second, or third, or fifteenth!

Posted by: Mark Griswold on March 14, 2005 02:39 PM
37. Mike,

I resent your spreading vicious rumors on this blog about David Irons Jr., a long-time family friend of mine (the rumors keep returning, the same old, tired rumors from Derdowski's campaigns of the past but the voters didn't buy the lies twice before and they won't buy it county-wide either!). The voters of East King Co. are generally smarter than their Seattle counterparts--I know, I've lived and been educated in both places!

I have known Irons Jr. and his wife for over 20 years, since I was a young teenager. I babysat his young daughters occasionally and our families often vacationed together in places like Sun Valley, ID. and Whistler, BC. He taught me how to drive when my father was hospitalized in 1985 for a bone marrow transplant (my Dad, a King Co. Police detective, died April 5, 1985 after a heroic battle with leukemia when I was 16 and my sisters were 9 and 11 years old, respectively.) He and his wife, Deborah, have remained great friends to my mother all these years since. They are wonderful people and they have 3 really great daughters.

They are better people than Di Irons, the "unsuccessful" one in the family--a puppet of her domineering father. Janet Irons, a successful attorney, is on her brother's side. Even good families may sometimes suffer a "falling out". It is unfortunate that his parents and one sister have chosen to bad mouth their own child who has given them those 3 beautiful, intelligent daughters, just for political power and influence.

Which Councilman in the early or mid-'90's was it that had an affair? I think it was Mr. Derdowski. It was a long time ago, so my memory might be failing me. I was just finished with college and busy starting my career back then and I might be wrong, but if it was Mr. Derdowski that I am thinking of, that is a pretty serious ethics problem, wouldn't you say so?

Posted by: ErinA on March 14, 2005 11:19 PM
38. Mike,

Your comments about David Irons are gratuitous, but I wouldn’t expect anything different from a liberal democrat. You make nothing but generalized oblique accusations and then use them as the basis to pin characterizations like “dishonest” and “smarmy,” on Irons. If you actually have anything specific to say about David Irons say it, or quit wasting our time by pretending to be something you are not.

Your claims about PDC investigations of Irons regarding various offenses require more verifiable specifics to avoid sounding like an application of rhetorical log-rolling. If you want to accuse Irons of illegal and fraudulent activities, do so clearly so that he can either admit or deny your charges directly. If you do this many people will listen, and respond.

Your comments are calculated and slippery and unless I hear something more substantial and authoritative (I won’t hold my breath), I will be forced to conclude that you are a somewhat-devious, but not too smart-a$$ liberal democrat engaging in a cheap political smear.

Nice try I suppose. Let’s hear more.

Thanks for the cheap lesson.

Posted by: Amused by liberals on March 15, 2005 11:00 AM
39. Thank you all (ErinA, Amused, etc) for coming to the defense of a great man like David and outing Mike for who he is. We have such an awesome chance of winning this year but we need to remain vigilant and steadfast in the fight against folks like Mike who take some unfortunate tidbit like David's relationship with his sister and father and use it to make him look bad. The fact that David does differ from some members of his family just shows that the democratic process is alive and well. Most of us can disagree at times and still remain friends or at the very least, civil. That's what makes this country great.
Go David!

Posted by: Mark Griswold on March 15, 2005 01:27 PM
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