In yesterday's P-I we learn that the Democrats aren't feeling very confident of Gregoire's margin of "victory" and are so desperate to increase it that they're trolling through the provisional ballots that King County rejected -- "Democrats still looking for votes -- just in case"
The Democrats want to look at whether those 4,432 ballots were rejected appropriately, McDonald said. As a first step, he said, they're reviewing the cases of 208 voters whose ballots were excluded under the category "not registered, needed further research" as it appears on a post-election report, he said.Now why would the Democrats be announcing new claims of King County election mistakes unless they believed that the Republican claims had irrefutable merit? This looks like a shift in strategy. The Democrats' new strategy seems to be to counter every Republican claim of illegitimate votes that appeared to favor Democrats with claims of erroneously rejected votes that would appear to help Democrats had they been counted.A preliminary check on about 10 of those names turned up five or six that seemed to match with names on a voter registration list, McDonald said.
This is a major concession that supports Rossi's argument that the election was a total mess and that we don't reallly know who won.
Posted by Stefan Sharkansky at March 19, 2005 10:32 AM | Email ThisWhat goes around comes around and if the election is not annuled and Governor election rerun this November, it will come back in spades in the Nov. 2006 election and Dems will get swept away from power. You may be able to keep your Governor, but she will be ineffectual after 2006. They can pay the piper now (this year) or pay later.
Posted by: KS on March 19, 2005 11:25 AMAnything they do at this point is being viewed under a microscope.....
Posted by: Deborah on March 19, 2005 11:56 AMTalk about tilting at windmills! You GOP LOSERS don't understand that IT'S OVER.
There's a four-letter word that perfectly describes Rossi's gubernatorial race at this point: L O S T.
Would you like me to repeat it? L O S T.
What part of ROSSI LOST don't you characters understand?
Posted by: Nelson on March 19, 2005 12:18 PMDid you remember to clean your room like I asked you to?
And don't forget to rinse out your retainer!
Posted by: Nelson's Mama on March 19, 2005 12:24 PMCan you say desperation at the facts kids? Can you say despondency at the knowledge kids? Can you say anguish over the light of day kids? Can you say hopelessness over the vote count now in jeopardy kids?
Stefan, your hard work forced that admission. Not the Seattle Slimes, not the Puke-Indigestioner, not the Seattle Squeakly have done anything to force the Domocraps hand, but your skill that will soon pay the bill. Just those words by McDonald in that P-I article have made you a hero in many of our eyes. Great job.
Your database entries from the big counties put them on notice. The research performed by many people have opened their eyes to the silent majority. 820 illegal felon votes are scaring the crap out of them. MoveOn.Org types impersonating dead men and women appearing at polling places as live voters are coming to light. Keep it up.
BTW, stating facts is not shrill!!!!
NUFF SAID
Pudster
Posted by: Puddybud on March 19, 2005 12:26 PMIt's over.
- Election Reform is nearly complete. According to the 3.14, the two elements that fix all the problems we have had in elections are nearly in place. We're going to move the primary earlier, and mandate all mail balloting. Look for your local legislator to pat themselves on the back shortly for taking on the hard burden of elections, and a job well done in fixing them.
- A pre-emptory attack was made this week with a 3.14 expose against the Supreme Court justices, and how each of them would have to recuse themselves from judgement if Chelan County goes our way and an appeal is filed. Yep, they did a good job of documenting the conflicts of interests at that level. Am sure this is a foreshadowing of further lawsuits on the part of the dems, should the Court decide to take the appeal.
- A continual stream of 'get over its' has become tedious, and it's becoming clear that the populace grows weary by this exercise. Am sure that the constant refrains by . . . (section deleted by poster for demeaning comments about such individuals) . . . have won out again.
Nelson is typical of those who have corrupted the system, and taken to illegal means to avoid having to deal with actual democracy. They chose a path that creates the self supporting power structure, and there's nothing that can be done about it. Nelson and his ilk have now cemented the ability to use our tax dollars 1) against us, and 2) in a manner that benefits them, regardless of what we think, want, or have actually voted for.
In fact, let's just stop having elections, for Nelson's sake. Doesn't matter what the actual vote count is, or who the votes are cast for, we know that the jackass party will make sure their people will rule. Save the money, install Ron Sims and his clones, and be done with it! Nelson and his people care only about those laws that force the rest of us do what THEY want, and we just have to accept it.
And remember, the jackass party, to include a fine representative in Nelson, writes the laws, enacts the laws, enforces the laws, and manipulates the laws. They will win, despite what we came to learn about checks and balances in civics class. And, they can ignore any law they choose because they know they have their backs covered by other operators beholden to the jackass party, that will ensure they receive no sanction or penalty for ignoring or breaking the laws.
Think they would be nearly as generous if some other party chose to implement the same tactics?
And, Nelson's just fine with that.
Needless to say, I find myself a bit dejected and frustrated this morning. Glad that others are still fighting the fight, no matter how unlikely it is that we will find what we are looking for.
Posted by: Patches Pal on March 19, 2005 01:03 PMDelay, deny, dissemble.
Posted by: Boonie on March 19, 2005 01:30 PMClearly you have access to Judge Bridges' thoughts on the election contest of a nature unavailable to the major media not to mention the rest of us. So Nelson, what did Bridges tell you about how he would rule on the election challenge? Please be as specific as possible.
For instance, explain if you would, how he will rule on the standard of proof needed to establish whether the outcome of the election is sufficiently unknowable to warrant setting it aside. Also ask him, if you don't mind, why he failed to rule in the Ds favor during summary judgment when, as you contend by claiming that Rossi has clearly lost, he could have ended things then and there? Particularly if, as you claim, the outcome is so certain.
Posted by: barchester on March 19, 2005 01:49 PMAnd please don't respond to the idiot Nelson. Its better to ignore people with nothing to say than to respond and give them an excuse to further pollute the blogosphere.
Posted by: srogers on March 19, 2005 03:47 PMChelan County Superior Court Judge John Bridges, who will hear the case at the trial court level, is, in fact, a man.
Washington State Supereme Court Justice Bobbe Bridge, who will hear the case at the appellate level (unless she recuses herself due to her close personal friendship with Christine Gregoire) is a woman.
They are not related.
Posted by: Susan B. Anthony on March 19, 2005 04:02 PMAnything they do at this point is being viewed under a microscope....."
Spot on ! Keep that in mind when you blather away - that is if you can - Nelson, et.al. Reasoning with partisan leftists is akin to reasoning with terrorists.
Posted by: KS on March 19, 2005 04:07 PMI'd love to see it.
(hint: yawn isn't an original thought)
Posted by: dkpcowboy on March 19, 2005 04:48 PMI would be surprised if they missed any provisional ballots that were arguably valid, although they were undoubtedly pressed for time so might have missed a few.
Posted by: Micajah on March 19, 2005 08:07 PMThere was a little rumor about those 10,000 ballots that came into the warehouse over a weekend when election workers weren't around.
Now you've explained it.
I just hope the RNC or someone has watchers up there. They might be up to stuffing while looking through those rejected provisionals.
My suspicions took it from there when I saw that their Monday statement reported: "King County Elections today counted 16,992 ballots, of which 12,317 were valid provisional ballots. This brings the total number of absentee ballots counted to 562,483. Election officials project an estimated 4,000 absentee and provisional ballots remain to be counted."
That was a very productive weekend of validating provisional ballots.
Posted by: Micajah on March 19, 2005 10:17 PMBallots counted through today include those received through Nov. 13.
Funny...They counted Provisional and Absentee ballots that weren't received until November 13th?
Yet - they could not count Military ballots received after November 2nd.....?
According to KC - they counted military ballots received after the November 2nd election date.
oops! my bad...
Of course..if our troops had access to the King County voters database - they would probably be able to verify if their votes were indeed counted...and if a substantial number of military voters were not listed as casting a vote in the November election...there could be some more 'splaining to do on the part of King County...
But...that's an issue for another time.....
Back to Micajah's interesting analysis of the huge last-minute Provisional and Absentee ballot counting frenzy in King county....
Posted by: Deborah on March 19, 2005 11:13 PMBallot, yeah that's it count every ballot.
No counting, no piece, no county, no piece, say it with me, spread the word! spread the word, no county, no peace! no piece! no peas! Spread the word!
No mas! No mas!
Will you try it on a box? Will you try it with some locks?
She's breaking up, she's breaking up. (Democratic) pitch is out, she can't hold altitude.
They can't rebuild her, they can't make her better than she was. The Democratic party is an a persistent crazy state.
And for that reason our two party system is in trouble. Hear is hoping that some effective and coherent opposition arises to the Republicans. (and I say that as principly a Republican.)
Their game is is "delay, deny and dissemble"