March 24, 2005
Follow-up on Vet letter

We recently reprinted a letter from combat veteran Maj. Terry Thomas, USMCR (Vet Strikes Back.)

What follows are two response letters from Principal Susan Dersé of West Seattle High.

UPDATE: At bottom is also a letter from the School board.

Dear friend,

I appreciate your writing to me about what took place in the school theater prior to the Iraq assembly held last Friday at West Seattle High School. I am enclosing for you a copy of the letter I sent home with students the Tuesday following the assembly, as it may provide additional information or insights for you on this situation, and my handling of it.

Our students were wrong to provide a biased warm up skit prior to our assembly. When I discovered that they had done so, and that they had invited others from the community to participate in the activity, I called the activity to an immediate halt. The stage was cleared, the actors changed out of their costumes, and the theater became once again a neutral environment in which our students would hear multiple perspectives on the war in Iraq so as to form their own opinions.

It was only at that time that we permitted our student body to enter the theater for the assembly. When I received a letter of complaint from Major Thomas about the warm up activity, I did call the Major and apologized to him for the reception he receivd when he arrived at the theater about fifteen minutes before the assembly was to start.

On behalf of our school, I personally called Major Thomas and apologized. We spoke for around 20 minutes. He asked for a copy of the letter I sent home with our students about the incident, and I have sent that letter to him.

Here is the letter. I honor you for writing,

Susan Dersé
Principal

Here’s the letter sent to parents after this incident:

Dear West Seattle High School Families,

I am writing this letter to clarify information that has recently appeared in the news media regarding an assembly held on Friday, March 11. The assembly, which was organized by students with the guidance of faculty advisors and administrators, dealt with the complex and timely issue of the war in Iraq. This topic is both emotional and controversial, as individuals have varied views and perspectives on this issue.

Using our School Board policies (G04.00) and procedures (GO4.01) on Controversial Issues, the activity was structured in a balanced, objective and fair manner. A panel composed of speakers with varying perspectives was formed. The allocated speaking time for each presenter was divided equally. All panel members were made aware that each participant would be treated in a respectful and equitable manner.

On the day of the assembly, approximately 15 minutes before its start, I was made aware of a dramatic production in the theater. The presentation involved the representation of war in Iraq. I immediately asked those students and adults involved in the dramatic presentation to cease the activity. They did comply with my request. At no time did any of our students witness the production except for those individuals directly involved in the re-enactment. Because of the performance’s emotional nature, I believed it would unfairly influence students’ opinions prior to the panel discussion regarding the war. I firmly believe that schools should be open environments for appropriate and respectful dialogue regarding important topics and issues. Certainly, the war in Iraq is such an issue. However, the dramatization of the events was in direct conflict with the intent of the assembly and the policies set forth by the district policies.

I am continuing to work with those students and their advisors in understanding this sensitive issue. Some of our military panelists were deeply offended by this dramatic production and felt unfairly targeted because of their service to our country. I certainly regret and apologize for that misunderstanding and want to remind all that our school as well as others in Seattle honor and celebrate our veterans every year and in many ways. While we cannot shy away from these tough issues, you have my commitment to approach them in a fair, thoughtful and respectful manner.

Thank you for your continued support of our students and school.

Sincerely,

Susan Dersé
Principal

UPDATE: The School Board Responds

Thank you for your comments about the Iraq Awareness Assembly at West Seattle High School. This event has been a learning experience for students at West Seattle High School as they listened to highly-respected community members with a broad range of experiences in the military speak in favor of or against the war in Iraq – a reflection of what is occurring in our community and our nation.

District policy clearly calls for a balanced presentation and multiple perspectives on a controversial topic for student dialogue and thought. We also have to respect students’ constitutional rights for freedom of speech. We do not want to discourage the discussion of timely issues. What is important is to provide the context, perspective, and climate for a balanced and respectful dialogue.

The school board regrets any disrespect to assembly participants and organizers regarding this matter; the board president has communicated directly with them. We are also asking the Superintendent for information on the development of the presentation, so we can be assured of proper planning and supervision of all assemblies, particularly those of a controversial nature, in the future.

Joan Dingfield
Executive Assistant to the School Board
Seattle Public Schools
PO Box 34165, MS 11-010
Seattle WA 98124-1165
Ph: (206) 252-0041
Fx: (206) 252-0101

Hat tip: Bill Hennessy

Posted by Brian Crouch at March 24, 2005 11:57 AM | Email This
Comments
1. It's a blanket reply. I sent her a nasty-gram a few days ago and got the exact same one, so rest assured that any points you bring up in your letter will not be addressed. As soon as she opens the email and sees that it is from somebody who is unhappy with the whole ordeal she stops reading, hits the Reply button, makes the attachment, and is done with it. I don't accept the "too many letters" excuse, either. I think she simply doesn't take any of it seriously. I'm still waiting for the names of the teachers who were behind it. Last I knew the principal of a high school was too busy to double as the head of the drama dept. And I KNOW the kids don't have free reign of that place.....
As I said in my email to her, at best she is an incompetent coward, at worst she is a radical ideologue using kids to push her agenda. It IS one or the other. Either way she's failed the students and lost the trust of their parents.

Posted by: The Dude on March 24, 2005 12:07 PM
2. Congrats on getting mentioned over on Little Green Footballs! (That's more than can be said of some other local blogs.)

This whole situation is a white-wash. The administration and school board are hoping that with enough apologies, no one will ask just how "unauthorized" adults got into the building. This is a major breach of security, and needs to be investigated.

But I hear nothing from the parents at West Seattle HS. That speaks larger volumes than any of the rest of this. That's why so many of our public schools are so worthless - the parents don't think they are responsible for what happens. If this was the school that my children attend, I would be sitting in the principal's office demanding an explanation.

Posted by: Janet S on March 24, 2005 12:37 PM
3. This type of thing does not happen at most of our local high schools. My school, in Tacoma, has a large military population. The administration would simply not allow this type of behavior from the teachers or any invited guests.

Posted by: Jeff Scott on March 24, 2005 12:44 PM
4. Susan Dersé: adults involved in the dramatic presentation

Joan Dingfield: We are also asking the Superintendent for information on the development of the presentation

If my children attended that school, I would also be interested to know who these "adults" were, if (which) "teachers" were involved, and what their reward will be.

I think that they should publish that information. The parents and other tax paying adults should demand it.

Posted by: JG on March 24, 2005 12:56 PM
5. whooaaa!!!! Nellie -- it is too late to expect the parents to care - any who would care enough to go hound the principal or school board would be in such a small minority - they would be easily brushed aside and dismissed (not to mention the reprecussions that would get heaped on their kids) - as this form letter is trying to do -- bottom line -- busing -- 90% of the people in the Seattle school district with school age kids back in 70's that could afford and/or finagle a way out of Seattle School system -- did so -- quite a few by moving out of the area -- that is when the 'burbs really took off -- and you trolls out there can hold off on the bs and other statistics -- I know that this is so from personal observation and knowledge.

Posted by: Bill on March 24, 2005 01:19 PM
6. What is needed here is some in depth investigation on just where these school principals come from and just how good their experience and credentials really are. --What is their real background??? how many different types of degrees do they really have and from where and how many other kind of jobs/businesses have they been in -- when I was in school all the principals and vice-principals were pretty old and seemed to stay at the same school year after year -- seems like every so often now I run across an article in paper re: the latest school administrator switcheroos around town -- what is typical tenure now for a school principal - say a high school principal -- in Seattle PS -- seems like Bonney and Hannaford were at Madison and WSHS for many years -- I mean like 10 or 20? They change principals around now like evrything else - sound bites and mouse clicks - it is no wonder that half the kids are on drugs - legal and otherwise and 1 or 2 go postal (or has it become scholoral???) every so often

Posted by: Bill on March 24, 2005 01:34 PM
7. My sense in reading about this story, the letters, responses, etc. leaves me with two conclusions:

1) Ms. Dingfield's comments regarding free speech do not apply to this presentation. The first amendment is not an unlimited right to spew forth with profanity, incite violence, threaten our leaders, etc. Nor is it a right to graphically depict death in a callous and disrespectful way that is directly targeted at offending our military. There are limits to free speech and its much more about rational discourse and the right to dissenting discourse.

2) In light of this, and based on what we saw from the students it's clear that they are instead being taught a MoveOn.org style of confrontational, aggressive behavior that is the precursor to beligerant demonstrations in Downtown Seattle leading to arrests, etc. And, more importantly, there had to be an adult behind this action. Someone put these students up to this, and that person should be investigated and fired.

It's highly appropirate to discuss the exact machinations of our foreign policy and to question our decisions, but if we can't conduct our discourse in a civil manner, we are behaving more like the pre-war Iraq and less like the Unites States.

Posted by: Jeff B. on March 24, 2005 01:59 PM
8. I was prepared (and wanted) to think that this was just a bunch of kids pulling a stupid prank, but the more I hear about it--including the response from the principal and board member--the angrier I get. I was opposed to the war (still don't like it, but now I think we need to fix the broken pot), but what's going on with West Seattle High is pretty wretched.

I understand that most high schools are pretty porous and don't have good security, but how can 40+ adults and children take over an assembly venue 15 minutes before the start? Wouldn't there be someone with school authority in that room setting up tables and chairs, etc? She's careful to say that students invited others from the community--as if to deny any faculty/staff involvement (passive or active) in this.

And why does Derse call it a "warm up" activity? It sounds like she's legitimizing it. A warm up for what? A bash session?

The school board letter didn't even sound like an apology. It should have been. Why try to suggest that this might be a freedom of speech issue? If students mocked the principal or school board through an offensive interpretive dance, we'd see some expulsions. There is no free speech in the sense that you can say anything without consequences--nor should there be.

I'll let you all know if the principal responds differently to a liberal :)

P.S. I had a laugh when I saw that there are "School Board policies (G04.00) and procedures (GO4.01) on Controversial Issues." Does anyone have a copy?

Posted by: ChrisW on March 24, 2005 02:09 PM
9. There are a couple of ways to deal with this sort of situation.

One, from now on when we get into these foreign set-tos, make sure we have a formal declaration of war and rigorously prosecute anyone who engages in this sort of nonsense for treason.

Second, turn the life of the school administrators into living hell with am umemding barrage of FOIA requests, lawsuits, recall elections, and so forth.

In other words, let them know your mad as hell, and you're not going to take it any more.

Posted by: Mad Dog on March 24, 2005 02:52 PM
10. Teachers of my 2nd and 4th graders have used the class-room as the stage for political advocacy -- "discussing" environmental, animal rights, social issues and the war in Iraq.

It appears that teachers are doing this to further their own personal beliefs. On one occasion the teacher's actions appeared to be prompted by coordinated efforts by a special interest group.

Where I work there are clear and strict policies regarding political and civic activities at the workplace. I have seen policies at a parochial shool that clearly limits teachers' authorities in that regard. Does anyone know whether there are such policies within the Seattle School System?

Posted by: BenA on March 24, 2005 04:27 PM
11. Again, I think someone should look into the West Seattle High group Students Take a Stand. This student group was directly involved as endorsers for the recent 19 Mar rally at the Seattle Center.

Among others involved as sponsors or endorsers: International Socialist Organization, Green Party of Washington, Palestine Solidarity Committee, Not in our Name Project, Radical Women, SCCC Students Against War, WEST SEATTLE'S NEIGHBORS FOR PEACE AND JUSTICE, etc.

"Adults involved in the dramatic presentation" ??? Shouldn't that be "Trespassing adults, who violated school securtity procedures...."

Posted by: SF Wife on March 24, 2005 04:29 PM
12. Free speech? Yes. But NOT in a publicly funded academic environment (i.e. preface to a sanctioned school assembly.) In one's own after hours time OFF school grounds? Fine.

Posted by: GMT on March 24, 2005 04:33 PM
13. Free speech? Yes. But NOT in a publicly funded academic environment (i.e. preface to a sanctioned school assembly.) In one's own after hours time OFF school grounds? Fine.

Posted by: GMT on March 24, 2005 04:33 PM
14. Maj. Thomas and I graduated in the same class from Shorecrest High School in 1987. A year or two later Susan Derse took over as principal of the school. Based on feedback from my younger siblings who were at the school at the time, she was a total joke and totally turned her back on dealing with anything controversial.

I find it interesting that it appears she has not changed in 17+ years and kind of ironic that Maj. Thomas has had to deal with her and her baloney in this situation. Thankfully we were already graduated before she took over the school.

Her response and the response of the school board is absolutely laughable. But what do you expect in Seattle?

Posted by: Berg3 on March 24, 2005 05:18 PM
15. yes, I'd like to know: WHO WERE THESE SO-CALLED ADULTS?

What a weaselly response. If there were adults on campus who were NOT authorized, that's a HUGE issue. (Suppose they had been something like conservatives or Christian evangelists - that would be worth at least a sniffy editorial in the Seattle Times.) How did they get on campus? My local high school keeps an eye on anyone entering or leaving campus, especially with the concern with drugs or guns.

If these were "adults" connected with the school, then WHO WERE THEY?

Posted by: steve miller on March 24, 2005 05:52 PM
16. The Principal's response (and the School Board's, for that matter) is not laughable, it is deplorable. This is not a free speech issue to which Ms. Derse alludes--imagine the media and teacher's outcry if the students wore white hooded robes and burned crosses! The anti-American sentimentality of those students at West Seattle High is every bit as agregious as such unacceptable racism. The only appropriate response of the school is outrage and profuse apology for not being in control of their facility and their students.

I do hope that someone follows up on this matter and discovers whether or not any teachers were involved. At the very least, they should be reprimanded for allowing such activities to take place, and suspended if they promoted the activity.

Posted by: alaska boy on March 24, 2005 07:44 PM
17. That free speech arguement is, well bogus. If the students tried to put on Jesus Christ Superstar, or any other venue that included the word Jesus or God their free speech would be crushed in a second.

Posted by: Fred on March 25, 2005 08:56 AM
18. Well I got my nonanswer from the principal...

My message pretty much followed my previous post here: the response was inadequate in that it didn't identify the adults involved and whether any were school officials present--if not, why not? I also mentioned the lack of free speech or even "school board controversial issue" policy governance here. The only "controversial issue" policy/procedure statements I came across referred specifically to how teachers instructed not how students "self taught." So it appears that there may have been teacher involvement if she's invoking that policy.

Anywho, she didn't respond directly to anything I said but provided a vanilla response that it won't happen again and that she, the students, and their advisors have a "shared vision about what school discussions of controversial issues require."

Posted by: ChrisW on March 25, 2005 10:56 AM
19. I've sent a new letter to the school board at the behest of several veterans. You can read it here:

http://wp.billhennessy.com/?p=637

you can sign an online petition here:
http://wp.billhennessy.com/?page_id=638

Thanks

Posted by: Bill Hennessy on March 25, 2005 11:43 AM
20. Fred,
You are so right about the "free" speech. Just last December the Lake Washington would not allow a school production of "The Christmas Carol". It seems like "free" speech is only for people spouting anti-everything.
This does not appear to be a lesson in differing points of view, but rather a lesson in "oops, we goofed. You should not have showed up early."

Posted by: Kathie Neville on March 25, 2005 01:22 PM
21. Imagine if these same students, supervised as they were by teachers, had come up with skits portraying Iraqi's as supremely grateful for having been rescued from the inhuman, murdering Saddam by our heroic military, or openly hostile to their "brother" Arab Jihadi's. Imagine, for example, a skit where Iraqi's lined up to vote each walked over and spat upon the body of a dead suicide bomber who tried to stop the voting. Even though, unlike the students planned propaganda this really did happen, you can be sure there would have been expulsions and suspensions galore for having been so insensitive to Muslims.

Still, for these lions of the left to have to pull in their claws so much, must have hurt. Guess I can only say, Ms Derse', I feel your pain. ;)

Posted by: Chuck Miller on March 26, 2005 09:43 AM
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