April 06, 2005
That was the wrong ballot to lose

Thanks to Stefan's trusty voter database, most Washingtonians can quickly check to see if their ballot was counted in the last election, a resource that King County itself has not provided directly.

Lt. Bryan Suits, recently home from combat in Iraq, used it to discover that his general election absentee ballot was not counted. Actually, what he saw in the database search result was a hash mark... curious, he called King County elections, who confirmed that although his vote was counted in the primary, he was not credited with voting in the November election.

You ask: "maybe it didn't arrive in time?" Well, to ensure that it was counted, he had sent the completed absentee ballot to his wife (a police officer, by the way) who made sure it was in the postal system well in advance of election day.

Perhaps the post office lost his ballot? How many absentee ballots do you suppose the post office loses during a presidential election? Probably more than either the post office or election officials want to admit. Did Diebold lose the ballot?
Will the long-awaited audit logs show how many pieces of mail come in one door from the post office, and out the other to King County? Where is King County's Absent Ballot Audit Trail (which would show the date any particular ballot was received, if in fact it was received) when you need it?

Remember the 93 ballots discovered on April Fool's Day? Lt. Suits believes he voted in an Issaquah precinct from which two of these ballots were found. Hmm. [Update: he has determined his was not one of these. Still, King County won't tell him what happened to his, and hasn't tabulated those new ballots.]

Oh, incidentally, Bryan is back at his job as a talk show host on KVI 570, nightly 6-9 pm. During his time in Iraq, he gave boots-on-the-ground reports to KVI, Fox News, Tony Snow's radio show, BBC, and other media. Of all people to be disenfranchised... they picked the wrong soldier. And his wife knows a thing or two about law enforcement: Suits was active duty military-- his vote was quite probably mishandled by the elections department, and he has an unimpeachable witness to that possibility.

This is now a federal matter, and the FBI can investigate it.

That's the first call he's going to place tomorrow.

King County may have just reaped yet another whirlwind.

(Updated and edited 4/7 )

Brings back memories of the "Felons vote, soldiers don't" chant, doesn't it?

Posted by Brian Crouch at April 06, 2005 07:34 PM | Email This
Comments
1. It only gets better.

Posted by: Ranger06 on April 6, 2005 07:38 PM
2. You go kick a$$, Mister former LT SUITS!

and Welcome Home.

Semper Fi
MikeF

Posted by: MikeF on April 6, 2005 07:39 PM
3. well, hmmm...

I feel like I should be expressing outrage, and I do feel that for all other service members similarly affected...

But really, Lt. Suits? Married to a cop?

You can't write screenplays this good. I'm hitting Costco in the AM and laying in a supply of popcorn.

Sorry about your vote, Bryan. I really am. But go get 'em!!!

Jeeze, there's gonna be some long faces and sleepless nights. 'bout time.

Bryan...if your listening...thank you for your service...you can't possibly know how many people appreciate your reports and were keeping you in their prayers. Again, thank you.

Posted by: scott158 on April 6, 2005 07:42 PM
4. Sorry to be so happy about this Brian...I mean...it's TERRIBLE that out of all the ballots they lost/disposed of...yours was one of them. Previous posters were right...this just can't get any better.
When we all go to costco to load up on popcorn for the show....don't forget to buy a box of kleenex to send to Paul "crybaby" Berendt....he's really going to need it now. And as compassionate conservatives...we have to be sensitive to his 'needs'....heh heh heh.....
Sorry, I can't stop laughing.........

Posted by: christmasghost on April 6, 2005 07:49 PM
5. I'm listening to Brian Suits on the air right now. Wish I knew more about the states rights issues involved, because as a conservative I'm not inclined to eagerly call in the feds. On the other hand, if there is a solid legal basis to bring in the FBI then by all means let's do so.

King County certainly won't enact the sort of true election reform that's needed here. Quite the opposite. Ever since installing Gregoire they've consistently gone the wrong way, with stonewalling, deception, efforts to gut opponents first amendment rights (deprive BIAW of funds), get more felons and homeless voters, more (all!) absentee ballot voting and so on.

HA! Right now a caller is praising SoundPolitics.com and asking voters to check the database and follow up if they see problems like John's.

Congrats, Stefan!

Go, John! Let's get the FBI in here and see what some subpoena's reveal!

Posted by: Chuck Miller on April 6, 2005 07:51 PM
6. Holy cow!!! Talk about the WRONG person to hack off. Or...maybe just the right person in this instance.

Go get 'em Brian!!! SO glad to hear you back on the air and have you home safe and sound.

Posted by: megs on April 6, 2005 07:53 PM
7. Ah, was hoping you'd post on this one. Yes Bryan, go kick some royal KC Elections bee-hind, and with our blessing!

Posted by: Michele on April 6, 2005 07:58 PM
8. I told you all yesterday, God works in mysterious ways. Keep believing on Him.

Well N E L S O N, yawn, how 'bout dem apples? Getting more rotten by the day!

I can hear Nelson saying, "It ain't over till it's over." Well it's the bottom of the ninth, two out, no one on, and you got two strikes Nelson, and you bat is made of balsa wood. Oh I forgot, you can play with your windmill!!!!

Ha Ha Ha

"NUFF SAID!!!!

Pudster

Posted by: Puddybud on April 6, 2005 08:07 PM
9. Now Bryan's saying he's just confirmed his is NOT one of the 92 (or 93, whatever it is) uncounted absentee ballots. His precinct is different. So his is just plain missing.

Posted by: Chuck Miller on April 6, 2005 08:10 PM
10. Thank God!
Federal Grand Jury!

Hey PI and Times, ...No story here!!!!!

Posted by: Brad on April 6, 2005 08:10 PM
11. If evidence is ever needed as to the potential for fraud in all mail voting, this is it. A well publicized partisan individual has had his ballot ‘lost’. Anyone that speaks out and lets their views be known can potentially be subject to fraud. With your name and address on an envelope, your vote disappearing becomes likely.

Posted by: RG on April 6, 2005 08:15 PM
12. RG - You are so right on. Your point needs to be made over and over to the general populace. Everyone is so comfortable with mail-in ballots. Perhaps it's time that people realized some of the downside associated with such an invitation to voter fraud.

Posted by: zapporo on April 6, 2005 09:06 PM
13. Ah, but even if his is not one of the 93 missing ballots, this still looks REAL bad for KC Elections. Answers, Dean Logan?

and Democrat legislators and Sam Reed STILL want to go to all-mail balloting??? Are they crazy??? They can't even tell Bryan what happened to his mailed ballot! Someone like Bryan will likely be VERY interested in going to the polls next time (as long as he's not overseas again) because then he could at least have the comfort of knowing he put his ballot into the hopper himself. Why do Reed and the Democrats want to take that option away from him and others??

Posted by: Michele on April 6, 2005 09:06 PM
14. Brian,

First of all, Stefan's voter database only covers 12 out of Washington's 39 counties. Although it does have the eight largest population counties and probably covers well over 80% of the registered voters.

Second, as I understand it, the 93 inner ballot envelopes were recovered from outer absentee envelopes that had already been accepted, credited and opened. But the ballot envelopes were left inside the mailing envelopes (by mistake?).

Brian Suits was not credited with voting in the general election in November 2004:

King County Last Name First / Middle Name Number Street City Vote Type PAV Mail RegYr
SUITS BRYAN DAVID 47o MT KENYA DR SW ISSAQUAH - Y - 2000
SUITS RACHEL M 47o MT KENYA DR SW ISSAQUAH - Y - 2004
SUITS RACHEL M 140o TAYLOR AVE N SEATTLE Abs Y - 2004

Third, as far as I know, Stefan's database does not have any information about who voted in the September 2004 primary. That information would have had to be obtained from another source.

What I find interesting is that Brian's wife is registered twice -- probably through no fault of her own. She only voted once, however.

To change your address, you have to fill out the same form which is used to register new voters. If King County Elections does not cancel your registration at the old address, you end up being registered twice. Same situation happens if you change your name.

At least Rachel M Suits only voted once. Although it appears she voted the Seattle ballot, and not the Issaquah ballot for the precinct where she and her husband live.

One interesting thing -- ask Rachel what ballot she voted. She could have returned the Issaquah ballot in the Seattle envelope. It would still get counted. But she would be credited with voting in Seattle, and that precinct would have one more voter credited than ballot counted. At the same time, the Issaquah precinct would have one more ballot counted than voter credited.

This could lead to all sorts of fraud. Let's say there is a close legislative race on the Eastside. The Dems get 500 of their supporters in that district to complain about not getting their absentee ballot. KC Elections mails out 500 new absentee ballots for these supporters.

Of course, these Dem supporters in the Eastside district only vote one of these absentee ballots each. But they give their extra absentee ballot to their local PCO, who then sends them to the Dem organization in a Seattle district where there is no serious legislative contest (i.e. where the Dem will win with 80% to 85% of the vote).

You then have 500 Dem supporters in the Seattle district place the extra Eastside ballot, instead of the Seattle ballot they were actually mailed, inside the inner security envelope. Since the inner envelope is separate from the outer envelope before counting, there is no way to trace this fraudulent act. The Dems now have an extra 500 votes in the Eastside district, which could make the difference in a close race.

Posted by: Richard Pope on April 6, 2005 09:08 PM
15. The FRAUD has been systematic and deliberate, however it has also been amateurish and now that an election with meaning and the takeover of dissemination of infomation democratized (and the State Republican Party fighting back for once) the wheels are comming off and in a big way. This WILL get the FBI involved, I can hear the 'Holy Sh*t what is going to come out next' comming from Democrat National Headquarters. Targeting service members has been part of the Dem strategy for some time, what has been lacking is a case such as this to get the feds involved. Stefan can say to the msm 'eat my dust or start doing your job' as well, and with federal involvement this may be what breaks it loose. Full un investigative reporting could have ended this disgrace years ago it is only because they were protecting their own that it hasn't happened already.

Posted by: JDH on April 6, 2005 09:15 PM
16. Finally the Feds have a reason to step in. I hope they have some hip waders because they're going to need them. Ron Sims and his croonies can't stop the Feds from asking questions and digging around. Hard telling what they will uncover. I predict we will back in the national news soon.

Posted by: Vicki on April 6, 2005 09:36 PM
17. Bryan Suits' voter id is not contained in any the files on this page that list absentee ballots received by Nov. 15.

Posted by: Stefan Sharkansky on April 6, 2005 09:49 PM
18. I wonder if Bryan's was among the 350 or so absentees that ended up in Alaska (Fairbanks as I recall). I'll see if I can find the article where a duffle bag of ballots wound up there, and no one knew what the procedure was to get them to Washington state in time.

I do not believe that they were ever counted into the mix.

Go get 'em Bryan!

Posted by: alphabet soup on April 6, 2005 10:02 PM
19. I hope Lt. Suits has a spare day in May so he can testify. I'm curious what the cross-examination from Dumbocrats will look like.

Posted by: YourGovernorCostsMillion$ on April 6, 2005 10:13 PM
20. This is classic!

Welcome home Lt. Suits!

Posted by: Deborah on April 6, 2005 10:28 PM
21. I am confused as to what your point is. The loss of a single ballot doesn't prove fraud, malice, or even incompetence. Invariably out of millions of absentee ballots, a few will get lost in the mail and a few will get lost in the elections office.

There is plenty of other evidence of incompetence in this election, of course, and this further supports that. Voters and legislators can choose to clean house and/or tighten procedures, and courts, if they're convinced it's bad enough, can order changes or even throw out the election results. But I can't imagine what the FBI could or will do with this information.

Posted by: Bruce on April 6, 2005 10:58 PM
22. Bruce
Sure there were errors but Fraud also took place by individuals. No finger prints will be found to prove the Democratic Party did any Fraud. Just individuals within that party. But if you vote more than once that is fraud. If you are a felon and did not have your right to vote restored legally. That too is both a mistake and Voting irregularity. A lot of Democratic irregularity like signing up felons to vote and voting signup van going to flop locations that felons out of jail stay at. Forget to tell the felon he had to do certain things to get his right back to vote. Is that human error or is that fraud by omission?
If a non citizen voted and was told that it was ok to vote by democrats. Is that fraud or Human error? Why are the Democrats blocking the Republicans from getting the list of legal aliens in the State of Washington. Could these Democrats know something that could prove fraud?
Tell me what is required to have the right to vote. Why is it so hard in Democratic counties to verify that a person is a citizen, Not a felon. That is not a lot of work. COuld it be because they want to stuff the ballots. See how the Democrats cry if you say you want a picture ID shown when you vote. Could there be people voting for others. Like the dead that made it to the poll place.
Why are the Democrats so strong at doing Mail only elections. COuld it be that they will have two standards. Loose standards for Democratic precincts and Strict rules for Republican strongholds.

Posted by: David Anfinrud on April 6, 2005 11:13 PM
23. Where oh where are the trolls when you need them....Headless?

OOOOOOOOO.....Busted.

What a movie this will make.

REVOTE.

Posted by: niceville on April 6, 2005 11:21 PM
24. This is beautiful. Could not ask for a better script. Even CANADA is not that corrupt. These were not mistakes, there were blatant, obvious and arrogant displays of criminal corruption and a co-opting of process that even the Euros don't stoop to.

Lt Suits, welcome home, but I'm sorry, you are to be re-deployed. You have a new mission. This mission will allow you to sleep at home this yr. The RoverEchoMikeFoxtrots will not win this battle nor the war. You got point. Lock n load. HOOAHH

I cringe everytime Lt Suits talks about his Canuck family, because sadly, he's bang on when describing that pseudo-country. I know, I only escaped the soviet of BC in 99. Now I see they have nothing on Kiev county.

Posted by: EX-Canadian on April 7, 2005 01:01 AM
25. One has to begin to wonder what dirt Logan has got on Sims? It seems to be the only logical explaination for Logan's job retention.

Posted by: flexnfx on April 7, 2005 01:08 AM
26. It seem to me that Lt Suits has become the Posterboy of this fight. He is exactly what the Democrats seem to fight against: decorated military man, wife as a police officer, conservative Republican, talk show host, good looking American boy! God Almighty he is their worst nightmare. And now its payback time.
Welcome home....

Posted by: Son of Liberty on April 7, 2005 06:56 AM
27. Now that we have to register as Demo or Repub in the Primary Elections, how many more of our votes will get "lost" in the mail?

Posted by: Drummie on April 7, 2005 08:06 AM
28. Amen, Son of Liberty. Lt Suits is already a Hero for serving proudly in our armed forces - maybe now he'll be a Hero yet again for serving the death blow to the corrupt Dumbocrat machine here at home. Welcome home.

Posted by: Scott on April 7, 2005 08:10 AM
29. Bruce,

The fact that it happens is enough reason to not to an entire vote-by-mail program. They're not taking the right steps to enable a secure election, just masquerading the problem.

Posted by: Brent on April 7, 2005 08:16 AM
30. Gents:

A technical question.

Are there any, outside or inside, identifying marks, characteristics or otherwise "cues" for election workers to be able to easily "lose" absentee Military ballots?

Chas

Posted by: Charles on April 7, 2005 10:30 AM
31. I don't mean to get off subject, but what are you all doing shopping at Costco? You can't get a more left wing group of people running the company.
You really should be shopping at Sam's Club. The prices are just as good and the membership fee is less then Costco.
...And now back to our regularly scheduled discussion...

Posted by: Thom F on April 7, 2005 11:03 AM
32. David Afinrud:

Is there a record of which party signed up certain illegal voters? That would be interesting.

You ask "Why is it so hard in Democratic counties to verify that a person is a citizen, Not a felon." Do you have any evidence that it is harder in D counties than R counties? I think it has been well-documented why it is hard. I don't think there are national databases of citizens, felons, or felons whose voting rights have been restored. Perhaps counties (or the state) should spend more money to try to do better at this, but it would still be imperfect. This is a reasonable thing for the legislature to consider. But I don't believe there is an existing mandate or precedent for it.

If you have evidence about either of these matters, that would be interesting. Otherwise your post is just a bunch of conspiracy theories.

Brent:

You say that we shouldn't do vote-by-mail due to these problems (I'm not sure if you're referring to fraud or incompetence). I don't think the method of voting affects the effects of incompetence, which I agree is unacceptably high in King County at least. As for fraud, I think the real problem is *allowing* absentee ballots other than for limited cases; once you allow them, you make it much easier for people to commit fraud, and requiring voting by mail shouldn't increase fraud since the cheaters would already be cheating. Allowing widespread absentee ballots is a clear tradeoff between making it easier to vote and making it harder to cheat. Historically I believe this is viewed as a public policy choice that the people (through their elected officials) get to make. Most legislatures in the US seem to be moving more in the direction of ease of voting, and I believe this reflects public opinion. You can certainly try to change this, but you will be more convincing if you acknowledge that there is a tradeoff between desirable goals, rather than accusing anyone who disagrees with you of favoring fraud.

Posted by: Bruce on April 7, 2005 11:15 AM
33. Lt. Brian Suits,

Thanks for your service. Time to kick some local democrat a$$.

Chuck Miller,

I don't think this is about states rights at all. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I belive that the fact that Ms. Suits posted Brian's ballot here in the U.S. mail even though it was within Washington State, anything that happened to it from post to destination would be considered Federal mail fraud.

Democrat degenerates like Danw and others need to be put in prison for this type of activity, and I think federal prison is as good a place as any. The reason they do this is because no one ever does anything about it.

Danw,

Tom Delay,Tom Delay,Tom Delay,Tom Delay. Good job.

Posted by: Amused by liberals on April 7, 2005 11:31 AM
34. Bruce

There are many available databases for determining if someone had committed a felony in another state (FBI NCIC, Intellius, etc.). Certainly there is easy access to the regional databases of felons (OR, WA, ID, AL). Once someone is on one of those databases, it is their responsibility to provide the documentation showing that their voting rights had been restored. That one seems very simple.

Of course, verifying citizenship should be even easier. When registering show definitive picture ID + valid birth certificate or show a US passport. When voting show valid picture ID (which probably eliminates using WA state driver licenses). And do a special citizenship check on anyone requesting a ballot in any language other than English.


As for vote by mail, I see three major problems with it. First, the handling of absentee ballots by poll workers provides an easy way (easy compared to voting in person) for fraud/incompetence to sneak into the process. Second, there is little assurance right now that identification approach for absentee ballots--signatures--is sufficient to ensure that the person filling out the ballot envelope is indeed the registered voter.

Third, universal mail-in ballots have absolutely no protection against vote buying/vote influencing. This has been a severe problem in the past, one which several laws preventing contact with voters while in the voting booth were intended to prevent. As long as a thug/briber could not see the actual vote, the voter and the vote was protected. Absentee ballots allow that kind of vote fraud to sneak back into the process.

All in all, more than enough reason to oppose the adoption of universal mail-in voting.

Posted by: iconoclast on April 7, 2005 12:05 PM
35. Gee, maybe it's as simple as his wife forgetting to mail the ballot?

Naw, it must be a conspiracy.

How's that tin foil hat fitting?

Posted by: Zoophagous on April 7, 2005 02:57 PM
36. Bryan Suits Wife may not have registered or voted in Seattle. If you noticed, Seattle was an absentee ballot. Maybe she voted in Issaquah but the Seattle Registration was by an imposter who got their absentee in first. Or, maybe they moved in 2004 and reregistered? It would take more information from the Suits to clear this up.
Welcome back Bryan, best wishes, heartfelt thanks, and the greatest of appreciation for both of the fights you have taken on.

Posted by: Mark Beyer on April 8, 2005 12:38 AM
37. Zoophagous, it doesn't take a conspiracy to "lose" an envelope.

It takes a single person.

Posted by: Bostonian on April 8, 2005 08:38 AM
38. The Federal involvement comes via both the Voting Rights Act, and the underlying Constitutional provision that the Federal government guarantees each state will have a democratically elected government.

I do wonder how long the MSM is going to continue ignoring this election debacle?

Posted by: BikerDad on April 8, 2005 09:55 AM
39. Stefan,

Have you checked to see if the text files of voter ID numbers contain a record of receipt of Suits' ballot?

Posted by: Micajah on April 8, 2005 02:25 PM
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