An attendee of this evening's Town Hall Meeting with Dean Logan reports --
Logan made an astonishing whopper of a claim when asked why he didn't say anything about the recently discovered ballots at last month's Issaquah Town Hall meeting:
Actually, I did not know about them at the time of the Issaquah Town Hall Meeting ... that first ballot was identified after the Issaquah meetingActually, the Issaquah meeting was held on Tuesday, March 29. According to the Elections office's own internal report, Dean Logan was informed of the newly discovered ballots on March 24.
The complete portion of the transcript follows --
Ken Rector: I’m Kenny Rector. When you went to the Issaquah Town Hall Meeting, you did not mention about the new missing ballots that were just coming up, yet you knew about them. Why did you never say anything about them? .Posted by Stefan Sharkansky at April 14, 2005 11:48 PM | Email ThisLogan: Actually, I did not know about them at the time of the Issaquah Town Hall Meeting, it was,…it was after that it occurred, and yet, when I found out that there were ballots identified….
What we were doing was responding to the discovery request in the lawsuit. And when that came to my attention, I directed staff to go through each and every envelope related to the general election absentee ballots because I wanted to be able to have a full report, of the magnitude of that issue.
And that is what we did, we started that day, and went through all the envelopes, and we have that report, we um, we’ve been public with that information, both to the attorneys in the lawsuit, to the media, and to the, and to… uh… others.
So.., but that did, uh, that first ballot was identified after the Issaquah meeting.
Why is it that democrats have such a hard time understanding that not only is honesty the best policy, but it is the only policy? Their lies may cover their butts for a season, but in the end, they will only end up with more egg on their faces.
I can't wait to see Sims and Logan coming out of the grand jury room. I'd love to hear what whoppers they'll be telling the press on that occasion.
Posted by: Jonathan Gardner on April 15, 2005 12:06 AMIt's all coming down...and it's time for them to come clean...
Posted by: Deborah on April 15, 2005 12:06 AMI could understand confusing 1 day, such as "Oh we didn't know about those until Tuesday" when really it was Monday. I can accept that, people don't have infallible memory.
But this is a difference of 5 days. 5 days. He found out on Thursday, March 24th, and claimed that as of Tuesday, March 29th he did not yet know of them. 5 days! He even had the weekend to think about them.
If this man is capable of this type of bold faced lie in an open public forum, just imagine what he is capable of when he doesn't have 100 pairs of eyes and several camera lens pointed at him.
Posted by: Jason on April 15, 2005 12:38 AMThey're somewhere between the Beverly Hillbillies and the Nixon plumbers/cover-up. I don't mean to demean the Clampetts, as the Nixonians and KCE have a decidedly significant dark side and even illegalities that the hillbillies lacked. Still, the bumbling and buffoonery are there in spades, as is the seeming inability to cope with even the most rudimentary tasks of modern political life. It’s not that Logan, Sims, et al are marginally muzzled junkyard dogs (notice I didn’t mention PB?), but they are agenda driven to a troubling extent, and for whom the convenience and serendipity of incompetent/fraudulent election workers that favor their side overpower any residual seed of drive to actually perform their duties with integrity, forthrightness, and acuity.
So why not the Clintons? Surely they bumble and bluster with the best of them. But still, there was a level of brilliance and all-out best-defense-is-a-good-offense energy that KCE lacks. KCE shares with the Nixonians a form of whistling in the graveyard fatalism in going down for the count. And hopefully, they will also share such concerns as forwarding addresses, saying goodbyes to former co-workers, and perhaps even some staying on as involuntary guests of the state.
At that point, we might then convert them to orange. As in jumpsuits.
It will give them time to also write their various memoirs and obfuscations, and perhaps not with crayons and construction paper as has been rumored.
On the other hand watergate was one isolated incident aimed at protecting the American people from the bolshevism of the democrap party -- there is no moral equivalent - the rot in KCE and KC in general is far deeper and far more pervasive.
Lord have mercy on us if Billy boy gets in as the Sec. Gen. of the UN and his co-conspiritor wife is 'seriously' concidered for President!
Posted by: Arky on April 15, 2005 05:07 AMLook at there pictures side-by-side. It's an eery similiarity, isn't it?
Logan will use the Yankovic Defense when pressured about statements like these ballots. Logan will simply deny saying things and blame it on Weird Al Yankovic...posing as Dean Logan.
Kinda like the Twinkee Defense.
Why did he wait for the discovery request of an election contest lawsuit to look through all the envelopes again?
Now he's told so many lies he can't keep track of them any longer. You know the old adage: "The best thing about telling the truth is that you never have to remember what you said." Apparently the Dems still haven't figured this out.
Posted by: Larry on April 15, 2005 07:29 AMThree comments. First, a public lie like this will do wonders for the Rossi Attorneys in their deposition of Logan and potentially in on-stand cross-examination. They will able to either get him to admit that he has lied to the public about election matters, thus casting doubt on a lot of what the Dem's are going to try to argue in the Governor's challenge.
Second, someone (say Brian Suits) who wants to file a class action civil lawsuit against King County and various election officials arguing that they are guilty of civil fraud in the way they have misguided the public. The KC officials publicly said that previously identified election problems had been fixed and people, such as Mr. Suits, relied upon the assurances of County officials when he decided to entrust his vote to the absentee ballot system. This resulted in their loss of a right.
Third, if Dean Logan is the "white knight" of elections officials at King County, brought in to cure all kinds of past problems and has made such great leaps forward (according to King County officials) what kind of outright corruption occurred in previous elections? I guess the question to Sims, Phillips, et. al. is "Did you lie to me then or are you telling a tall one now?" (Actually, I think I know the answer..."you have always been fibbing to the public, as like Clinton "truth" is not an absolute.")
Posted by: Bob on April 15, 2005 07:53 AMAnything to direct attention away from the specifics of King County, which do look pretty bad for the cozy little Democratic cabal which runs it.
I have to note Berendt's ability to talk down, interrupt and cut into his interlocutor's argument, grabbing the majority of the air time and diverting attention away from the subject at hand. Maybe the hosts who permit it are a bit too polite.
Posted by: Insufficiently Sensitive on April 15, 2005 07:59 AM"What about Delay? What about baby seals? Where are the WDMs? Bush lied!"
It is like Clinton bombing aspirin factories to try and get attention away from the woman in the blue dress.
dB
Posted by: dB on April 15, 2005 08:12 AMLogan is the evil one.
He lies like bureaucrat
(and not for the very first time, either).
Re the separated-at-birth snaps of Weird Dean Logan & Weird Al (Yankovik? Gore? Franken?), please note the astonishing resemblance of "Governor" Gregoire to Jim Carrey's Grinch, via Google. 'Tis truly said that if Christine scraped off a few layers of Mary Kay, she could be a Grinch stand-in.
Posted by: sandalista on April 15, 2005 08:29 AMJust the kind of guy the largest County in the state should trust their election to! WHAT A JOKE
Posted by: Joe on April 15, 2005 08:43 AMThru the guidance of Bush and Rove, Yankovic intentionally lied, deceived and mismanaged KingCo Elections ALL TO MAKE THE DEMS LOOK BAD!
With the deposition of Logan approaching, Bush & Rove will release the real Logan and Yankovic will disappear. The real Logan has been kept in a secret hiding place and has been given a steady dose of memory altering drugs. When the real Logan is deposed, he will look foolish because he cannot remember anything during his dorknapping...errr kidnapping.
You see, this has ALL been a carefully crafted vast right-wing conspiracy orchestrated by Bush, Rove and of course Weird Al Yankovic.
Have you seen Weird Al perform anywhere the past 6 months? NOOOOOOOO!
That proves the conspiracy in the Paul Berendt Book of Virtues.
Posted by: Mr. Cynical on April 15, 2005 09:02 AMYou forget: Bush is just a stupid puppet, Rove is the puppet-master.
dB
Posted by: david on April 15, 2005 09:24 AMDean Logan et all were brought in by the Sims controlled King County Democrat Political machine for one purpose and only one purpose, namely to make it easy for those with a proclivity to vote illegally to do so.
The arrogance of these buffoons knows no bounds and is not peculiar to King County the Ladenburg/Pierce County cabal is just as filthy they just have not been given an intense rectal exam yet.
The corrupt degenerate filth and degeneracy within Tacoma’s government that came to light as the Brame scandal was ‘investigated’ (you know my take on it which is that the State Patrol’s ‘independent’ investigation was nothing more than part of the cover up) is just the tip of the iceberg. What someday will out in Pierce County will prove just as instructive.
What I am alluding to is investment partnerships that include Tacoma and Pierce County officials and/or their family members and/or close associates. This has been a way of doing business around here and it is CORRUPT.
Those involved try to justify it by saying that ‘we want those with an investment in the community to be active in City/County government, don’t we?’
What is not pointed out by the MSM (particularly in the News Buffoon) is that these politicians, far from having made an investment in these partnerships are invited to be on the board early on, they may or may not make a small ‘token’ investment of their own money BUT pay close attention now: the reason that they are there is that the banking establishments that provide funding for these projects know damn well that with close connections to County government and City Hall there will be tax incentives, permitting will be expedited, infrastructure maintenance and improvement will be deferred in neighborhoods but never where it will impact these ‘investments’ and many other 'perks will accrue on these projects that are not available to others without the political insiders involvment therefore not only will the project be funded, it will be funded at a rate none of us could hope for and most likely the terms will also provide for little or no actual expenditure (or exposure)on the part of any of the ‘investment partners’ (and exposure to the lender will be limited by City/County 'guarantees') basically what this is is a scheme to enrich the pols and their family and associates that they don’t think I can see right through. Not only do I see through it I also explain it to others in terms they can understand. Another scam that may be of interest is the ‘study’ commissioned by the City Council that recommended that a certain fire station be closed down and sold (to save money, and besides this station realy isn’t necessary. Wink wink), this property also happens to be a piece of property that one of the most powerful Tacoma pols has had his eye on for years, imagine that. and on and on and round and round it goes and where it stops nobody knows.
Posted by: JDH on April 15, 2005 09:41 AMPlease don't forget. To liberals, it isn't the actual event or the truth of it that counts, it is the seriousness of the charge and Logans lie isn't serious, because he is a liberal. Liberalism itself is a vulgar lie.
I'm hoping this will not slip by in court, but I'm not holding my breath.
***** NATIONAL LIBERALS DAY *****
You may have noticed but, democrats are not paying attention to Logan's lies today anyway because it's National Liberals Day.
Today, all around the country, liberals prime ideals are heralded under the rubric of expropriation of individual wealth--TAX DAY!!! All of the liberal pinheads are no-doubt ecstatic!! Yeah IRS, you're our guys!! Go accountants and tax attorneys, do your stuff!! Wheee, lets make everyone as "equally" miserable as we can!!
Hey guys, lets point to those who have more stuff than we have and demand that we take their stuff and give it to someone else so we can congratulate ourselves on our generosity!! Yeah there's some liberal intellectual honesty for you!!
Undisputed "top dog" liberal on tax day.
Interviewer of Ted Kennedy: Senator Kennedy, many have offered the idea that the tax code is too complex and should be reformed in order to make taxation more fair. What do you say to this?
Ted Kennedy: Uhh bu, ba, ba, I'm uh for uh any uh any thing that allows the uh hearings to go forward, this Bush uh this uh Bush is uh mis uh . . . . WMD's and uh, the uh fillibuster of the uh social security uh Bush administration, uh ba ba ba . . .
Interviewer: Thank you Senator, we'll keep that in mind.
Posted by: Amused by liberals on April 15, 2005 10:01 AMDeLay DeLay DeLay!
(Oh, and how about that Bolton character? I heard that he once said something unkind about somthing to someone (somewhere) ;'}
Posted by: alphabet soup on April 15, 2005 11:19 AMAnd Logan sat there, looked you in the eye, and lied to you. One of the future leaders of our community, and someone he should be setting an example for -- he lied to you without shame.
You are absolutely right, the county's obfuscation, misrepresentation, and outright lies have gotten to the point that a bright teenager can now effectively cross examine Mr. Logan.
He should be raw meat for the experienced trial attorneys next week!
Posted by: Quiet Observer on April 15, 2005 11:30 AMI live two blocks from said Fire Station. Needless to say, I'd like it to stay open to protect my house and the other houses in the neighborhood instead of becoming a hot local restaurant or whatever ever else the corrupt politician has in mind.
Tacoma has learned the ways of corruption well from her big sister to the North.
-JB
Posted by: Jeff B. on April 15, 2005 12:13 PMDeLay DeLay DeLay!
Quite right, I was wondering the same thing. Given liberals implacable reputation for accuracy, truth, and substantive claims, what could have happened to all of the "serious charges" about DeLay? You would think that people shameless and silly enough to make such hollow cynical attacks could sustain them for more than a week.
Where did the little turd-dropper troop--headlice, carbunkl, candrew and danw go? If you listened to these nitwits, DeLay would have stepped down by now. Tom DeLay is alive and better than ever and doing his job as the Republican Majority Leader as we speak. What happened?
It is established that Democrat Minority Leader Harry Reed did almost exactly the same things that DeLay was accused of. That is to say--the "official" accusations against DeLay, not the scatological exaggerations and ranting extrapolations of the typical leftist trolls. Who cares about Reed? I don't, he's in enough trouble already just being himself. It must be difficult for Harry to tow the liberal line, but he has acquired that dead look of self-betrayl common to any liberal leader.
It is always amusing to observe viewpoints of what it means to be liberal, as a basis to make anyone sane--thankful not to be.
Sorry folks, I forgot to include that highly credible liberal Nelson. He has a thing about DeLay DeLay DeLay, so I shouldn't leave him out.
By the way Nelson, I hear your momma calling.
Posted by: Amused by liberals on April 15, 2005 12:32 PMUpdate:
The trolls are on another thread doing their DeLay DeLay DeLay diversion dance.
Happy days!
Posted by: Amused by liberals on April 15, 2005 12:40 PMI had heard about Jeff Smith’s (Frugal Gourmet) activities for years prior to it being made public. The News buffoon had to have known as well.
‘Everyone’ knew what we were being blessed with in naming Brame Police Chief
The News Buffoon has more time than I do to make the connections between City Hall/County Government and business interests yet they don’t (I’ll let you fill in why they don’t, I suspect they are in on the action myself).
You do know, by the way, that part of your water bill goes to pay for leased space in the TPU building when the Water Dept could build a building of their own and occupy it at a huge savings. The Utilities board won’t allow this, want to know why I think this is? Try this on for size: the City of Tacoma owns the building they are currently is collecting above market rate for rent and is utilizing the proceeds to install more scrap metal and piling palm trees or some such nonsense. Why you ask would the Utilities Board (they are independent, right) go along with what the City Council wants? Well my take on it is that since Utilities Board members are appointed by the City Council and there have been documented instances where Utility Board members have owned a business that the City Council is making a regulatory exemption for and City Council members spouses were partners in this same business interest with Utility Board members and round and round it goes and where it stops nobody knows.
A stinking cesspool of Political Corruption rules the day in 'America's #1 Wierd city.'
Without MSM coverage, most of the state population have no idea how bad things are.
Our voter registration and election systems need major reform. So do our main stream media systems for educating and informing the general public.
Posted by: PW on April 15, 2005 12:42 PMI recorded the whole 2 hour meeting on Digital Video camera. Interested in other clips or getting a copy? Call me.
Sorry if the sound from the back of the room is not too good. You might turn up your volume on your player and see if that helps.
I wish that other Sound Politic readers had come and asked a pointed question of Dean Logan. Several people had praise for Deans well done job of handling the election. But few questions were asked of the problems uncovered in the election fiasco.
Fred Finster 360 403-9198
Posted by: Fred Finster on April 17, 2005 04:59 PM