April 28, 2005
"Lamb" wasn't just crying wolf

Nicole Brodeur interviews Julie Anne Kempf, the former Superintendent of Elections in King County (the position now held by Bill Huennekens), who was terminated after the 2002 election ""Lamb" wasn't just crying wolf"

In her own defense, Kempf said then that the county's whole election framework was troubled. She spoke of the aged, "clanking along" computer system and a chronic lack of resources — everything from the freezing of a key system-analyst position, to the assistant who quit in exhaustion to the death of the manager of absentee ballots.

"I've been raising red flags for years," Kempf said then, but officials didn't listen.

Indeed, several King County government insiders whom I trust tell me that Kempf was unfairly scapegoated for trying to defend the integrity of the elections office against Ron Sims questionable directives. It would be interesting to learn more about what those "red flags" might be.

Posted by Stefan Sharkansky at April 28, 2005 11:21 AM | Email This
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1. What WERE those directives from Sims?

I remember she said the ballots went out late back then because of anthrax on the east coast, or something wierd like that. It turned out not to be true at all. Did she or did she not say that? It'a hard to know what to believe from these people, but I believe her when she says there've been problems from the get-go.

Posted by: Michele on April 28, 2005 11:28 AM
2. If these have been problems all along, it would tend to exonerate Logan.

Posted by: headless lucy on April 28, 2005 11:39 AM
3. The really big question for me that nobody has published an answer of is.....In last years King County Citizens Election Oversight Committee report, they were very concerned about the potential for a large number of provisional ballots overwhelming the King County Elections Division. In the report the Committee recommneded that the Division estimate the number of likely provisional ballots in the November election and develop a plan on how to handle that number of ballots.

In Dean Logan's deposition there were some questions about the Election Oversight Committee report, but nobody asked the right question from my perspective. Mr. Logan, what was you estimated number of provisional ballots? How many were there and weren't you warned many months in advance of the election that this was a problem area you needed to focus management talent on to address?

Oh well, I am sure that Logan kept Ron Sims happy, so what......

Posted by: Bob on April 28, 2005 11:44 AM
4. This is undoubtedly a correct statement:
"Christine Gregoire shouldn't be placed in the position of having to defend her legitimacy at the same time she's trying to govern," she said. "And Dino Rossi shouldn't need a lawsuit to get to the bottom of what went on."

The King County canvassing board didn't do the job required by law -- determine whether the results presented by Logan's gang were a "full, true, and correct representation of the votes cast" before (almost but not quite) certifying the county's election returns. Their own non-certification demonstrates their ignorance of their legal duty.

The legislature shouldn't have relied on that non-certification as an adequate basis for the issuance of a certificate of election to the Pretender.

Unfortunately, neither Logan nor the canvassing board understood their legal responsibility, and the legislature never bothered to check to see if the (almost but not quite) certification by the canvassing board was worthy of belief.

So, while the court contest is supposed to be the last resort, it turns out to be the only place to turn for what may be a bona fide effort to determine whether the returns submitted by King County truly stated the number of legitimate votes cast for each candidate.

Posted by: Micajah on April 28, 2005 11:46 AM
5. "It will never, ever again happen," Sims said.

From the attached article relating to the problems that force Kempf to leave.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/cgi-bin/PrintStory.pl?document_id=134634189&zsection_id=268448406&slug=election14m&date=20030214

My favorite quote:
"Sims and Roegner said they were confident they would be able to meet all of Reed's recommendations before 2004, a presidential and gubernatorial election year. The county expects a record number of absentee ballots that year. "

Posted by: Randy on April 28, 2005 12:00 PM
6. From people who know ms. kempf personally, she's part of the problem. She's a compulsive liar (look up the stranger archives on her name) and is a horrible person.

Posted by: dan on April 28, 2005 12:08 PM
7. Nicole was making too much noise about a shoddy system so to shut her up Sims brings on the loyal Democrat Dean Logan in the name of reform. Logan proceeds to run the system further into the ground (by design). It went like clock work until; OOPS the difference was only 129 votes! "ELECTION CONTEST"
Lets hire Nicole and AXEhonerate Logan.
Call The Next Deposition

Posted by: Keith on April 28, 2005 12:08 PM
8. Good point Randy.

And it will never, ever happen again. Sims occupying an elected office that is.

Posted by: Jeff B. on April 28, 2005 12:08 PM
9. Lucy, I believe that is why, specifically, Dean Logan was hired on - to get the KCE's office in order.

So, are you willing to exonerate the present wrong-doing simply because it's a continuation of past wrong-doing?

If others violated the law, then it's okay for me to do the same?

Makes no sense to me. And, I suspect, it will not hold sway when Logan's judgment day arrives.

Posted by: Seattle Republican on April 28, 2005 12:11 PM
10. Lucy - No, it doesn't.

It tends to incriminate Logan, as these problems were well known when he arrived, but he didn't take action to correct them.

Posted by: ewaggin on April 28, 2005 12:17 PM
11. Lucy,

Your logic (or lack of) completely escapes me. Logan was hired to clean up the mess. If anything he is in even bigger pile of doooooo.

Maggie

Posted by: maggie on April 28, 2005 12:20 PM
12. So, I assume you are all in favor of raising taxes so we can update the computers and pay for more and better workers?

Or is this going to be the normal GOP "we need change, but we don't want to pay for it" arguement?

Posted by: JDB on April 28, 2005 01:07 PM
13.
Logan's actions attempting to cover up the problems (and his contribution to those problems) are the ones that will land him in legal hot water. I don't think that Logan perpetrated vote fraud personally, but he certainly facilitated it with an unbelievably (and even criminally) loose vote apparatus.

As for Kempf, if she did raise concerns regarding the reliability & security of elections in KC, then that just provides more evidence that Sims was invested in ensuring the ongoing existence of a fraud-prone elections office.

It is funny that there is so much accountability required of public corporations yet a public official like Sims can ignore state law and state regulations with no consequence. If he were CEO of a public corporation, he would be doing the perp-walk even as we speak.

Posted by: iconoclast on April 28, 2005 01:07 PM
14. When you place them together it all makes sense:

If these have been problems all along, it would tend to exonerate Logan.
Posted by headless lucy at April 28, 2005 11:39 AM
If you had any sense you'd back socialized medicine so you could get a glass belly button installed.
Posted by headless lucy at April 27, 2005 01:49 PM
I'm bigger than the Beatles.
Posted by headless lucy at April 27, 2005 01:58 PM
I still maintain it's not about fair elections with you. It's about winning any way you can at whose cost you couln't care less.
Posted by headless lucy at April 27, 2005 10:48 AM
Do you think the word "truth" in the name of the club has anything to do with the troubles the club has. Show me a club called something like: "The Absolute Truth Darwinian Evolution Club". Of course you can't because no school would allow such a club, just like they won't allow the: "Truth Bible Club". And that's the truth.
Posted by headless lucy at April 28, 2005 11:50 AM

Its like an old 'Saturday Night Live' skit. Looking for the next installment Headlice...

Posted by: Red State on April 28, 2005 01:09 PM
15. I'm new in the state and have no idea who this woman is. But, I recently heard her interviewed on a talk show. She gave several conflicting answers and continually balmed others for all the problems in the dept.

She ended the interview by saying there is STILL absolutely no possibility of any collusion or illegality on the part of the elections officials.

YEP- she lies!

Posted by: Baynative on April 28, 2005 01:15 PM
16. Iconoclast wrote: "If he were CEO of a public corporation, he would be doing the perp-walk even as we speak."

In the glossaries of many corporate execs , they've come to translate ROI as no longer being "Return on Investment" but now referring to "Risk of Incarceration". And well they should.

Posted by: MikeF on April 28, 2005 01:24 PM
17. Did anyone notice the what was implied in the article?

"Fast-forward to last week, when the new heinie in the elections hot-seat, Dean Logan, was questioned under oath about the November governor's election, in which Republican Dino Rossi lost to Democrat Christine Gregoire by 129 votes after both a machine and hand recount."

The statement "in which Republican Dino Rossi lost to Democrat Christine Gregoire by 129 votes after both a machine and hand recount" is inaccurate.

It should of read "in which Republican Dino Rossi won two out of the three recounts and the Democrat controlled King county elections officials did everything they could to make sure Christine Gregoire won the hand recount"

If the election is a statistical dead heat, let's use statistics to select the Gov. 2 out of 3 sorry Chris you lose.

Posted by: Chasspin on April 28, 2005 01:56 PM
18. Red State: If you do not like it here move to Texas and secede. You'll find no tearful eyes in Seattle. You could not muster one normal IQ with every conservative commenter on this site included in the tally.

Posted by: headless lucy on April 28, 2005 01:57 PM
19. JDB

Your automatic assumption that the problem at KC Elections is lack of funds is charming and predictable. And absent any real evidence.

Many of the problems enumerated by Stefan (and others) were not due to failing computer systems or hiring the mentally handicapped (oops, those with cognitive differences). As with all organizations with severe problems, the failures at KC Elections fall entirely on management's shoulders.

Pay workers more (aka hire better workers)? How about providing clear guidelines on election management instead of lectures on PC terminology? How about following state law instead of ignoring it? How about spending time auditing and verifying the certification instead of papering over obvious mistakes? How about allowing observers to observe instead of cordoning them off yards away from the elections workers? Finally, how about firing elections workers who cannot/will not adhere to legal directives?


KC needs to address these and other management problems first before dipping into the taxpayer's pocket.


Posted by: iconoclast on April 28, 2005 02:25 PM
20. Until she's under oath and hard evidence is gathered, you can't possibly know if its just CYA and a scury to regain credibility, or incompetence or some combination of factors.

She does one thing that you don't often hear from KCEs people...she infers that integrity might actually matter to her...and if that is true, it would go a long way to verifying her being on the outs with Sims/party leadership.

What could possibly be more threatening to these clowns than someone in a position of make trouble for them that won't play ball?

Posted by: scott158 on April 28, 2005 02:30 PM
21. Icon...you're right, of course.

There's another aspect of the left and money.

a) libs call for money...the 'big lie', chanted as a mantra, trying to create a "reality" to divert from bad policy and incompetence

b) the constant cry for money will be met with resistence from those that are targeted and tired of it.

c) no new taxes, the libs say "well, what can we do, we don't have enough money"

d) when they do get new money, its not for the stated purpose, but to ratchet up the size of government, thus solidifying their power base, thus presenting an even greater potential for inflicting damage on the taxpayers, and

e) they have plausible deniability from all the union/teacher/bureaucrat types that suckle at the pig trough.

Money is a smoke screen. ALL of the problems discovered so far center on incompetence or malfeasance. Not money.

Sometimes I think that sentencing the miscreants to hard time would miss the point. It might do them more good to have to...under the threat of tax-and-spend legislators and anti-business judges to be required to work enough hours to meet a company payroll as a manager.

Wouldn't that be an interesting requirement for being on the legislative budget committees...to have to have met a payroll in the first four of the last five quarters...much like qualifying for unemployment????

Posted by: scott158 on April 28, 2005 02:42 PM
22. What do Dean Logan and Julie Anne Kempf have in common?

"Fired elections boss is political insider who rose quickly "

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/cgi-bin/PrintStory.pl?document_id=134612145&zsection_id=268448406&slug=kempf09m&date=20030109

Posted by: randy on April 28, 2005 03:02 PM
23. MikeF: 'ROI' now means Risk of Incarceration

Best laugh of the day. I'll remember that.

Posted by: StephenR from Houston on April 28, 2005 03:04 PM
24. ROI? hmmm...glad I checked in. I always thought it meant "Risk of Infection."

'bout the same thing, I s'pose.

Posted by: scott158 on April 28, 2005 04:05 PM
25. Yoa Headless, I believe it was those evil Republicans who used to say, America, love it or leave it. Is that now the dumbocrats battle cry. King County Election Fraud, love it or leave it. As far as going to Texas, thats not a bad idea. As much as I love this state it is becoming more love for a memory of what it was than a love for what it is. If my company wanted to transfer me to Texas I would go in a heartbeat. I like the idea of living somewhere that is tough on crime and isnt full of liberal windbags that love to play the victim.

Posted by: lesterman on April 28, 2005 04:44 PM
26. what, and live among people that make sense? Where's the challeng in that?

Posted by: scott158 on April 28, 2005 04:46 PM
27. Lucy
That is only if you use KC math. Any normal math procedure shows the conservative IQ at twice the normal liberal IQ. Then again there are exceptions. You bring the liberal average waaaaay down, DocBenton averages it back up somewhat against the loss you and Nelson create.

By the way, when did you get over your multiple personalities?

Posted by: Mark Beyer on April 28, 2005 07:11 PM
28. "headless" talking about "IQ"

Nuff Said.

Posted by: VaCSProf on April 28, 2005 08:17 PM
29. Headless, why would an under-reported majority of people want to take your advice to move to Texas when all will be well in this state soon? Cast your fears and demons! Contrary to what your script writers want you to believe, the sun will continue to rise in the East and set in the West even when Gov. Rossi is in office. You might be pleasantly surprised to experience that welfare programs can be turned into prosperous workfare programs, that personal tax savings are just like receiving pay raises, living indoors is better than communal outdoor tents, and that you--not a governmental agency-are best to determine what you need. Shake off those years of Seattle brain washing and fear not.

Posted by: Elvis is the King County on April 28, 2005 11:27 PM
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