July 19, 2005
Sharkansky and Connelly together for the first time!

After the McGavick press conference I had a delightful conversation with the P-I's Joel Connelly, who, as it turns out, is as friendly and engaging in person as he is sometimes curmudgeonly in his column.

photo credit: Robert Mak!

Posted by Stefan Sharkansky at July 19, 2005 02:30 PM | Email This
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1. As far as I'm concerned, Robert Mak, Joel Connelly, and you, Stefan, are the most important players in political journalism and punditry, along with David Ammons from AP.

Posted by: ed on July 19, 2005 02:43 PM
2. I sent Mr. Connelly some comments on his latest column from my blog. He just said it was "right-wing blather". A compliment I guess.

Posted by: James on July 19, 2005 03:12 PM
3. In emailing Connelly regarding his column and Gregoire's "hiding-out" at the beginning of her term(?), his email response to me accused me of "sneering sarcasm" and stated, "The political right has so poisoned political debate in this country..."

He is a liberal, full of hot air, and much else as your picture would suggest.

Posted by: Susu on July 19, 2005 03:29 PM
4. In best Austin Powers voice,

"That's one fat bastard."

Posted by: Dr. Evil on July 19, 2005 03:49 PM
5. Joel Connelly and John Bolton - separated at birth?

Posted by: jimg on July 19, 2005 04:04 PM
6. Since his start as a green writer for the PI, Joel Connelly has repeatedly exposed himself as intellectually dishonest. No matter how nice and engagin he might appear and be in person, his untempered willingness to disregard or distort any facts that don't support his agenda has resulted in literally generations of misinformed and mislead readers and citizens. Harsh words, I agree, but unfortunately deserved.

Posted by: alaskaboy on July 19, 2005 04:11 PM
7. Connelly is a liberal, lardass, blowhard. I can rarely make it through his rantings. I've heard him square off with Carlson on 570 and he's arrogant, bitter, close-minded and rude. I really don't care for the (in Austin Powers voice) Fat Bastard!

Posted by: Jeffro on July 19, 2005 04:27 PM
8. Agree with most of the comments above. I sent him an e-mail politely (I thought) correcting him on a point of fact, and received a stunningly and quite gratuitously nasty reply. "Right-winger" seems to be his favorite, all-purpose epithet. I responded in kind, which I don't like doing, but I was not about to take that sort of abuse from the likes of him. S o you're not getting a lot of support here, Stefan, for what a delightful and engaging guy Connelly is.

Posted by: jsa on July 19, 2005 05:12 PM
9. After Sept. 11 and in the runup to the Iraq war, I'd often send e-mails to Connelly disagreeing with him about the French and their motivations. We didn't see eye-to-eye, but his replies were always polite.

Posted by: ed on July 19, 2005 05:58 PM
10. Well in all honesty I may not have been exceedingly polite, but he made some pretty serious howlers. Like for example claiming that Joe Wilson is a political independant, because he donated money to both parties, omiting the fact that he was an advisor for the Kerry campaign.

Posted by: James on July 19, 2005 06:31 PM
11. I'm not buying it That is a cardboard photo of Joel

Posted by: Thad Pulaski on July 19, 2005 07:04 PM
12. Are you sure he isn't the resturant critic?

I am sure that, given the good liberal he is, he would support forced diet controls for the same reason he supports helmet and seatbelt laws. Someone is gong to have to pay for his heart attack and/or diabetes.

Posted by: Huey on July 19, 2005 07:40 PM
13. Are those suspender straps under his armpits? Or is that a concealed weapon harness without a holster? (that would be the way a liberal wears it)...Hmmm... A booby lifter? Backpack?

Help me out here Stefan! What the heck is he wearing?
I don't get it?

Posted by: Deborah on July 19, 2005 08:59 PM
14. Hey, great photo. I always like to see people able to talk amiably in person even though they cross swords in writing.

But, like the dude above said: "That IS one fat bastard."

The methane that guy produces contributes more to global warming than my V8 engine!

Posted by: BananaLand(aka Iguana) on July 19, 2005 09:05 PM
15. But look at Stefan. One can only conclude that conservative guys are much more adorable and in better shape. Must be clean living, self-respect, and all of that! Let's not knock the round guy; he probably has "issues" that send him to the fridge. Being liberal would do that. Let's just tell Stefan how cute he is . . . for a young guy. What a contrast!

Posted by: lksimstrailgrammy on July 19, 2005 10:49 PM
16. Another testimonial to what a pompous a$$hole Connole can be.

Sent him a civil email disagreement and he jumped straight to insults.

Since then I've made sure that every exchange with fatboy is as unpleasant for him as it was for me ;'}

Posted by: alphabet soup on July 20, 2005 08:30 AM
17. You are making the same mistake many conservatives make - fraternizing with the enemy. I guess part of it is movatived by ego - by being impressed by being alongside someone of Connelly's prominence. Perhaps it is also a false belief that if they just got to know you they wouldn't perceive you as such an evil person.

Well, such fraternizing doesn't work. Either you become more like them, or they stab you in the back. One of the main reasons conservatives have lost over the years is because they have been too much the ladies and gentlemen. This is a battle to the death, not some dance. And the Democrats don't play by any rules so nether should we.

You should have learned in childhood this very sage advice - Never Smile at a Crocodile!.

Never smile at a crocodile
No, you can't get friendly with a crocodile
Don't be taken in by his welcome grin
He's imagining how well you'd fit within his skin

Never smile at a crocodile
Never dip your hat and stop to talk awhile
Never run, walk away, say good-night, not good-day
Clear the aisle but never smile at Mister Crocodile

You may very well be well bred
Lots ot etiquette in your head
But there's always some special case, time or place
To forget etiquette

For instance:
Never smile at a crocodile
No, you can't get friendly with a crocodile
Don't be taken in by his welcome grin
He's imagining how well you'd fit within his skin

Never smile at a crocodile
Never dip your hat and stop to talk awhile

Never run, walk away, say good-night, not good-day
Clear the aisle but never smile at Mister Crocodile

So you met John Connelly. BIG DEAL. Get over it.

You and John Carlson have the same problem. You so want to be liked by the liberal establishment.

Posted by: J.K. on July 20, 2005 10:35 AM
18. You know the nicest person I ever met I met a while back while voluntering for the Dan Evans campaign (I know, please chalk it up to being a youngful indisgression). This young man who worked for Dan would frequently come to help us. He was very polite and funny and he was always helpful when we had a question or needed help with something. You could tell that he was quite intelligent. But he was very thoughtful too, always ensuring that the old ladies who volunteered at the office had rides home and if they didn't he offered to drive them home no matter how far they lived.

Frequently after closing the campaign office for the night he and I would go to a bar nearby and drink a few beers. He was a very engaging conversationist. And he had a great sense of humor.

That was quite a while ago. And to this day, I haven't met anyone as personable as he was.

His name - TED BUNDY.

I know it might be hard for you to understand but someone could be an evil monster and still be a very "nice guy".

Posted by: Scott on July 20, 2005 12:05 PM
19. Alphabet soup good for you. what you need to understand is that the liberals don't see it as simply a disagreement. They don't see themselves as being "at disagreement" with you. They are at war with you and what you believe in all but the most literal sense of the term.

And the way one wins a war is by being willing to go one step beyond your enemy in doing what it takes to win.

Perhaps the character Malone (played by Sean Connery) in the movie "The Untouchables" said it best.

Malone: You said you wanted to get Capone. Do you really wanna get him? You see what I'm saying is, what are you prepared to do?

Eliot Ness: Anything and everything in my power.

Malone: And THEN what are you prepared to do? If
you open the can on these worms you must be prepared to go all the way because they're not gonna give up the fight until one of you is dead.

Eliot Ness: How do you do it then?

Malone: You wanna know how you do it? Here's how, they pull a knife, you pull a gun. He sends one of yours to the hospital, you send one of his to the morgue. That's the Chicago way, and that's how you get Capone! Now do you want to do that? Are you ready to do that?

Now again, we aren't in a shooting war with these people, but it is everything but. And we are going to see how really brutal they can get when the Supreme Court hearings start up.

So, all I ask you, is are you willing to get your hands dirty?

Or are you still playing by Queensbury rules. For if you are you might as well pack up your blog and go home as you will lose.

But if you really believe what you are fighting for is that important then you must be willing to do what it takes to win.

Posted by: Kurt on July 20, 2005 12:56 PM
20. Alphabet soup what you have to understand is that to Connolly you are evil. You are the devil. You are a threat to everything that he holds dear.

And, with evil you shouldn't be polite. You don't converse civilly with evil. You don't discuss things over with evil.

You fight evil!

Of course, the truth is exactly the opposite. It is Connoly who is the evil one and the sooner we understand that the better able we will be to fight what he represents.

http://www.beverlye.com/culturewars.html

"We spent 30 years playing by our opponents' rules of engagement instead of forcing them to play by ours. During that time, we imagined that all we had to do was be right, present our views logically, and provide reams of documentation. We were under attack, whereas we thought we were merely under disagreement. We said we just needed to understand each other. The truth was, our adversaries understood us better than we knew."

Posted by: Alan on July 20, 2005 01:18 PM
21. -Of course, the truth is exactly the opposite. It is Connoly who is the evil one and the sooner we understand that the better able we will be to fight what he represents.-

Looks like Alan and JK are dedicated jihadists. Now, if we could just translate this into Arabic...

Nice to see the eternally navel-gazing cult members don't always follow Jim "the Shark" Jones to his magic kool aid trough every second of every day of every week. I'll give them that.

Posted by: Bax on July 21, 2005 01:19 AM
22. Hey Bax, You are a racist!

Why associate speaking Arabic with terrorism?

Why give the impression that all who speak Arabic are terrorists?

Ron Sims needs to arrest you for your crimes against humanity! For your spread of hate.

He needs to soak your white sheets in gasoline, put them back on you, and then light them!

Posted by: Gene on July 22, 2005 08:27 AM
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