July 21, 2005
Confidential to citizens of Grays Harbor County

Your county auditor, Vern Spatz, who by the way is up for re-election in 2006, seems to be something of a bumbling putz. Not to mention something of an idiot.

Posted by Stefan Sharkansky at July 21, 2005 06:12 PM | Email This
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1. I explained that they really needed a physical address for each voter, and a post office box did not satisfy the requirements of law, and he assures me "Not to worry, we have it all "under control"". I wonder what he means?"

Posted by: alphabet soup on July 21, 2005 06:24 PM
2. Soup,

The box. Vern has the box under control.

Posted by: Amused by liberals on July 21, 2005 07:05 PM
3. I know him personally. He had a good elections officer who retired recently - before 2004 elections I think. Vern is a nice guy. Unfortunately you may be right about the other traits. However, I do believe him to be an honest what you said. When they had the problem last election I think he immediately called in SoS. I'll have someone who was there correct me if wrong.

Posted by: Harborite on July 21, 2005 07:37 PM
4. yep...it's the box.

Posted by: Danny on July 21, 2005 08:51 PM
5. Grays Harbor Voters: Remember the movie Patriot? "Aim small. Miss small." Is your problem, "Expect little, get little?"

Posted by: Jimmie-howya-doin on July 21, 2005 08:51 PM
6. Sheesh, what is wrong with the ss minow, no puppies to kick? Why the heck bring up two to six month old stuff? Boy, this board is just more and more cutting edge every day.

Posted by: JDB on July 21, 2005 09:06 PM
7. Anything to lure you out in the open, biteme...

Posted by: alphabet soup on July 21, 2005 09:09 PM
8. I'm not sure that idiot is the right word. Probably more of a slacker.

I live in a very rural area. There are several homes that are only recognised by lot numbers. The post office does not offer mail delivery to those homes. They ONLY have a PO Box for an address.

It's a real problem for 911 services.

Voter registration does allow for physical and mailing addresses, but what do you do when you don't have any offical address?

Posted by: vc on July 21, 2005 09:18 PM
9. Well, you could add another couple of fields to your db for each voter record. The first would simply be a flag that a PO box was being used. Default would be null, but a 'TRUE' or '1' value would signify both that 1) yes, this is a post office box; and 2) the county auditor asserts that he has audited all these records and reconciled them to real voters at real addresses. The second new field would be the physical address.

Posted by: TB on July 21, 2005 09:55 PM
10. What do you want to bet a lot of them are moveon.org plants?

Posted by: M on July 21, 2005 11:58 PM
11. JDB, we know it hurts for you to hear about more illegal voters. That's supposed to be swept under the carpet, isn't it? Bringing that little item out into the light just casts more doubt on Mrs. Gregoire's 'victory' and you can't have that. It's bad enough already.

Posted by: Clean Up This Mess! on July 22, 2005 12:00 AM
12. Clean up:

I'm sorry, you must have missed the lawsuit in which the only illegal votes were found to have been cast for Dino Rossi, and it was found that there was no fraud. I'll post a link if you need one.

And my point was this isn't news. It is six months old. It would be like me posting a link to a story about how there were no weapons of mass destruction. Kind of boring, don't you agree?

Posted by: JDB on July 22, 2005 12:29 AM
13. "Kind of boring, don't you agree?"

Yes, you are, but we put up with you anyway....

Posted by: alphabet soup on July 22, 2005 06:50 AM
14. We live in a rural area, too. We don't receive mail at the house due to vandalism of the post boxes. So we have a PO Box for our mail. But when we applied for a building permit, we were given an address. UPS and FEDEX, and the police and fire depts. all have the physical address.

Posted by: dr. ufo koska on July 22, 2005 08:52 AM
15. JDB.

We didn't miss the lawsuit. THOUSANDS of illegal votes were found. Unfortunately the only ones for which evidence was available about who those votes were cast for were for Dino, and that was only a FEW of the votes (about 5 IIRC).

Posted by: Perri on July 22, 2005 01:00 PM
16. I had first hand repeated dealings with Vern about the GHC election problems. To date,he cannot explain/demonstrate or duplicate how his new election counting system double-counted (misreported) 60% of the election nite ballots. The difference between 11,000 and 17,000 is notable in a county of only 28,000 active voters.
Worse yet, it took Vern, County Auditor, two weeks to catch the problem. Why were ballots not reconciled properly election nite as required?
Why are precinct details/reports nonexistent from election nite ballots processed?
Why are pages missing from poll books that should contain provisional ballot signatures? (50+ from one poll book alone)
Why does Vern/staff give out inaccurate/incomplete voter database details repeatedly to investigating parties? (stonewalling?)
Why were over 400 people in poll books with a phys address of "0 Unknown Address no city"?
He blames his Elections Supervisor, who retired after the election...the buck stops where?
Vern may be a peachy kind of guy to know; but a capable County Auditor? Me thinks not.

Posted by: fed up with phonies on July 22, 2005 02:14 PM
17. JDB,

Do you ever think before you comment?

Posted by: Amused by liberal nitwits on July 23, 2005 10:55 AM
18. jdb 1, Amused 0

Posted by: jdb on July 23, 2005 11:11 PM
19. And the answer to your question Amused, remains a definitive NO!

Posted by: alphabet soup on July 24, 2005 08:48 AM
20. jdb,

That’s it there genius stick to simple minded insults, it will help you to avoid proving that you are an idiot.
Say as little as you absolutely must and make all of the words little ones so that you can avoid logical fallacies,
absurd syntax, and other grammatical and spelling errors that reveal your obviously lacking abilities.

Posted by: Amused by liberals on July 24, 2005 01:05 PM
21. jdb 3, amused 0

Posted by: jdb on July 24, 2005 01:08 PM
22. Soup,

Obviously JDB can't reason, can't write, can't spell, AND can’t even count?
After all, as liberals like jdb always say, one man, one (1 + 1 =3) vote.
Do you suppose it’s just that pesky pathological liberal impulse to pad extra votes for themselves?

Or is even his only real talent - obdurate tediousness - if it involves ciphering, too much for him?


Posted by: Amused by liberal morons on July 24, 2005 02:24 PM
23. jdb 6, Amused 0

And how pittiful. Such a beautiful day and you spend it all in front of your computer vomiting bile and showing your ignorance. Well done sir.

Posted by: jdb on July 24, 2005 09:30 PM
24. "pittiful"

Yes indeed. I couldn't have said it better. (snerk snerk!)

Actually I get the impression that Amused was displaying your ignorance. And the bile? Probably biteme/jdb flavored...

Posted by: alphabet soup on July 24, 2005 09:42 PM
25. No bile from me. I simply observed that jdb
can't reason, can't write, can't spell, AND can’t
count, and he has set about proving it over
and over and over again.
Ignorance?
Yes indeed. Absurdly invincible ignorance laced with arrogance.

Very amusing indeed.

jdb(lowercase), thanks for the fun, moron.

Posted by: Amused by deluded liberal morons on July 24, 2005 10:35 PM
26. Ah, Amused, what a loser you are. Spending all your time hunkered in front of your computer screen, unable to post on topic and only posting pendantic personal attacks about my typing. I would ask is this is the best you can do, but obviously it takes all your amazing brain power to act as a small minded proof reader. So, as long as you keep conceding my points, I'll keep the tally running. (Heck, give Alphabet credit, he might always be wrong like you, but he occasionaly tries to be to have an idea. You, my dear friend, have only one idea, and that is a wrong one).

JDB 9, amused 0.

Posted by: JDB on July 25, 2005 09:32 AM
27. I'd be wary of those "pendantic" attacks Amused...sounds like they might sting a bit ;'}

Posted by: alphabet soup on July 25, 2005 12:44 PM
28. Soap,

jdb believes that I “hunker” in front of my computer screen in some nonsense “pendantic” effort (whatever that is supposed to mean). He is too arrogant and dim witted to realize that it only takes a moment to discern what he is unable to correct throughout all of his contributions - jdb actually imagines that he is difficult to outwit.

He clearly thinks it is his lousy spelling and sloppy grammar that is the important article (nerk nerk). Notice that (aside from pendantic [sic]) he takes much more careful pains to spell check his work?

Too bad a spell checker cannot un-bend a twisted mental condition, or jdb would be in business, and he could actually participate in a rational debate instead of pursuing a marathon accounting of his trifling self-absorption and gratuitous stupidity.

While it really doesn’t matter to me, I rather enjoy watching the little liberal weasel wriggle and squirm like bait on a hook.

Posted by: Amused by liberal morons on July 25, 2005 01:04 PM
29. You forgot the

"biteme/jdb 16 bazillion, real world 0"

(but who's keeping score ;'}

Posted by: alphabet soup on July 25, 2005 02:01 PM
30. JDB 12, Amused 0

Sheesh, you are easy enough to play with. I keep waiting for a post on point, instead of an attack on my spelling, but, then, you would have to think, wouldn't you, and we wouldn't want to stress that little mind of yours.

I'll still be here to take on an actual idea of yours, assuming you ever come up with one. Until then, we'll keep the score rolling up as you concede point after point by being unable to actually engage in any form of discussion, just sniping.

Boy, what a loser you are. And how easy to control. Thanks for playing along babe, even though you didn't know you were a part of the game.

Posted by: JDB on July 25, 2005 02:07 PM
31. jdb,

I definitely do have a sense of humor - you make me laugh out loud.

If you were retarded, I would let your effluvium pass because it would be sick to pick on someone who cannot help themselves.
Your own intellectual laziness is the framer of your silly block headed indifference to sensibility and that is truly humorous to bait and release.

Nice job and thanks again for the fun . . . dolt.

Posted by: Amused by liberal morons on July 25, 2005 03:02 PM
32. JDB 15, Amused 0

Still don't have an argument, do you? Oh well, I really can't expect any intellectual stimulation from someone like you, but it is fun to make you dance like a little puppet.

Me, intellectually lazy? Please. You have yet to make an argument in 15 posts and counting? At first I thought you were just afraid of showing your stupidity. Now I'm pretty sure that you are simply not able to do so.

And who's baiting who? Check all these threads, you are responding to me. But keep on doing it. Dance my little puppet, dance!

Posted by: JDB on July 25, 2005 03:53 PM
33. How very nice for you that you have things made up that way. It is always a positive thing for a person of your limited abilities to reach an accommodation suitable to your potential and stick with it. Blind obdurate delusion does fit you and it goes along well with your baseless lies, crackpot claims, impulsive assertions, and irrelevant insults.

You lied, got caught as usual, your reason was to stir up irrelevant trouble as usual, and after you got caught, the only thing you could do was dance around insulting others to avoid the truth. No one really cares if you are a proven liar and mentally deranged putz, so it shouldn’t be a bother to you either.

Thanks again for your demonstration of the liberal pastime - moron.

Posted by: Amused by silly liberals on July 25, 2005 07:21 PM
34. Hey Soup,

jdb posted an *argueyment* over at MORE INDICATIONS OF ABUSE OF POWER BY RON SIMS
in *response* to my comments here.

What do you suppose this tank genius will do next?

Posted by: Amused by liberal morons on July 25, 2005 09:16 PM
35. JDB 20, Amused 0.

Boy oh boy, you are stupid enough that you can't even read the time stamps. And, as you have shown at that thread, you are a coward.

Still not one on topic post, or a single response to my on topic comments. Sheesh, if all you do is make fun of my typing, how small you must be.

You are a coward. Go run and hide. If I've lied, surely you could point it out. But, sadly, you haven't in, what, 20 posts? More like 40. I've never seen you post on topic. And now everyone has seen that you are a coward and couldn't step up when you were called out. You have nothing. Go, hide behind your feeble insults.

Chicken.

Posted by: jdb on July 26, 2005 12:21 AM
36. Hmmm.

The troll seems a bit desperate here.

One cannot point out the fallacies inherent in another’s posts unless said posts are coherent. There has never been anything from biteme except babbling nonsense.

But I'll continue to cheerfully point out what an idiot you are.

(You're welcome!)

Posted by: alphabet soup on July 26, 2005 06:06 AM
37. Hmmm.

The troll seems a bit desperate here.

One cannot point out the fallacies inherent in another’s posts unless said posts are coherent. There has never been anything from biteme except babbling nonsense.

But I'll continue to cheerfully point out what an idiot you are.

(You're welcome!)

Posted by: alphabet soup on July 26, 2005 06:06 AM
38. biteme/jdb,

You are out of sequence silly. All of your wacky tormented rage is humorous but none of it constitutes an *argueyment.

You pretend that you are the leader here big shot. Make your *argueyment first silly. Then accuse me of failing to kick your silly ass while calling me names.

You have not made any substantive arguments at this post, only claims like "Sheesh, what is wrong with the ss minow, no puppies to kick, . . . the only illegal votes were found to have been cast for Dino Rossi," and your " point was this isn't news." These are not arguments moron, they are petty sarcasm, and lies.

*“Call me out? You are making things up again to bolster your mock bravado stupid.
On substance you get your ass handed to you every time. On this thread Perry kicked it. Refusing to acknowledge it doesn’t change the fact.

But hey you've sunk to a new low . . . Chicken? That’s below the belt even for you jdb. Gosh I’m hurt now.


Hey Soup,

How will I ever live with it?

*biteme/jdb lingo

Posted by: Amused by liberal morons on July 26, 2005 11:09 AM
39. jdb,

Honestly, it is obvious you have yourself figured as a debater, but you never engage any substantive debate because you never argue substance. You are a spoiler who carps at other peoples’ comments with lies and bullshit who believes that making things up is the same as citing facts. Your unfounded personal insults are in direct substitution for arguments, and you play cheap insulting badinage in substitution for debate. You only prove over and over again that you are a deluded liberal fool with no point, just anger and vitriol.

If you ever decide to engage in real debate, come up with a real argument, and I will defeat you easily because you are not very intelligent.

Nevertheless, you are amusing.

Posted by: Amused by liberal morons on July 26, 2005 11:38 AM
40. Amused - I managed to capture biteme/jdb "hard at work" via a secret webcam: http://stonegiant.com/Politics/BadDay.gif

Now I know why he seems so "edgy"......

Posted by: alphabet soup on July 26, 2005 11:56 AM
41. jdb says, "If I've lied, surely you could point it out."

Easy! Observe my comments posted on July 26, 2005 12:52 PM at
MORE INDICATIONS OF ABUSE OF POWER BY RON SIMS

jdb, if you cannot keep your stories straight, keep your ignorant trap shut.

Posted by: Amused by liberal morons on July 26, 2005 01:11 PM
42. Soup,

The webcam pic does resemble jdb's current demeanor.

Thanks

Posted by: Amused by liberals on July 26, 2005 01:32 PM
43. Is that the best you can do? We all know you are a coward, and a fool, but are you that stupid? A disagreement does not make me a liar, any more than it makes you one. All you showed is that along with being a coward and a fool, you cannot handle satire or keep things in context. What a putz.

But, I have to give you credit, for the first time you have tried to post something on topic. Admittedly, it was mostly an attack, and a baseless one, as usual, but you did try. You get a gold star. Maybe some day, if I try really hard, and take a bullet to the head, I can be as smart as you.

Still, I notice you have no facts and nothing to back your assertions. While in your little mind, the arguement that "He's an idiot, so I must be right," must have some satisfaction, in the end, you are still a loser. Perhaps you should stay with your pedantic spell checking, as anything else apparently is too advanced for you.

You are a coward, a fool, and by your own standards, a liar. But most of all, you are a sad lonely man stuck in his dark, dank apartment with nothing more than your bile to keep you warm. But if you have a single fact that shows that Ron Sims was behind the Kempf arrest, I'm waiting? And, based upon your past performance, I'll be waiting for a very long time.

Posted by: jdb on July 26, 2005 05:25 PM
44. Do you ever think before you post?

Posted by: alphabet soup on July 26, 2005 08:30 PM
45. Soup,

It is easy to understand why jdb is a democrat in the mold of Michael Moore and Ted Kennedy.

Never try to teach a pig to sing. It's a waste of time, and it irritates the hell out of the pig.

His irritability and invincible stupidity is fun to watch though.

Posted by: Amused by liberal morons on July 26, 2005 10:10 PM
46. jdb biteme,

jdb says, "Maybe some day, if I try really hard, and take a bullet to the head."

P.S.,
Given your frantic, empty, scurrilous projections, I'm for the bullet.
Best thing for you really. Go for it.

Posted by: Amused by liberals on July 26, 2005 10:23 PM
47. jdb...Should you decide to "biteme" the bullet, would ya let us know?

Maybe we could sell tickets or something....

Posted by: alphabet soup on July 26, 2005 10:59 PM
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