July 27, 2005
Public Non-Disclosure (III)

I'm not the only one whose public records requests are being stonewalled by Dean Logan. Bob Edelman of the Evergreen Freedom Foundation has for weeks been asking for documentation on the mailing of military ballots during October 2004, which belive it or not, has never been satisfactorily produced. This "mail log" produced by King County and this letter from Bob Edelman to Dean Logan tell the story.

UPDATE: Edelman sent me some more of the (inconclusive) documents provided by King County in response to his request.

Posted by Stefan Sharkansky at July 27, 2005 10:24 AM | Email This
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1. It's beyond us all why KC keeps saying they mailed the military ballots out on time, but won't satisfactorily prove it. something's rotten there and I'm grateful to those who continue to pursue it to get at the truth.

Posted by: Michele on July 27, 2005 10:44 AM
2. According to these records, 4,591 ballots (of all kinds) were delivered to USPS or PSI by Oct. 8th.

On the 12th, 5,478 more were added. How many military ballots were there total? Were all of these 10,069 military?

If KC was forced into court to prove that they had mailed all military ballots on time - would this be their best evidence?

Also remember, weren't there 2,500 - 3,000 duplicate ballots mailed as well? Which batches were these in?

Do all of our state and local governments have such poor accounting and audit trail practices?

Enron. Aurthur Anderson. Etc. The government is big on protecting us from "big business" - who's protecting us from "big government"?

Posted by: SouthernRoots on July 27, 2005 10:59 AM
3. Both Logan and the demoted Bill Huennekens have stated, including Logan's testimony before the County Council, that military and overseas ballots are NOT sent through PSI, the mailing contractor, as they don't require machine assembly, nor do they need domestic postage (whether through bulk permit and sorting or otherwise).

Registered Military (RM), Registered Service (RS), and overseas civilian, are hand stuffed by election staff, as there is usually just one or two per precinct and automating a one-envelope process is pointless, and sent in special postage-paid envelopes provided by the government for the purposes of facilitating voting for citizens working abroad.

So why would Logan and Huennekens say that the ballots did not go through PSI, when they were taken to (ta-da!) PSI and not the Post Office?

Bob Edelman's on the right track. The date the ballots actually went out to the USPS, not the day they went to an envelope stuffing contractor in Kent, is the date of mailing.

Posted by: Good Grief on July 27, 2005 11:10 AM
4. Hmm...it seems that there are two likely scenarios here:
1) King County (KC) doesn't have those records. If that is the case, then they could be just ignoring the request as irrelevant (with the idea of "Why is Edelman asking for something that doesn't exist?), or trying to get them, or (worst case) trying to re-create or manufacture the paper trail.
Are they required, by law, to keep those records of when the subcontractor actually mailed those ballots? Did the subcontractor keep the records? Why can't Edelman do an end-run and quietly ask the subcontractor (without informing KC of this) if they have the information?
2) KC does have those records. If so, then why are they so slow in coming forth? They can't find them, or they have to compile/create them, or they are trying to hide the record or "cook the books" to paint themselves out of the corner they are backed into.

Are there any other scenarios possible here?

Posted by: pseudotsuga on July 27, 2005 11:14 AM
5. So much for Logan's continuing claims that his department doings are 'Open and transparent'

Posted by: Michele on July 27, 2005 11:22 AM
6. So, only 1,853 ballots went directly to USPS - the rest went to PSI, inferring extra handling and perhaps an extra day's delay before they hit the postal system.

Per GOOD GRIEF's description of RM and RS - By the 8th, KC had sent out 3,967 ballots to Military and Overseas. Is that all the military ballots - less than 4,000?

Unless PSI delivered the last 2,000 or so to the post office late on the 8th, it looks as if some definately did not get mailed per the Federal deadline.

Posted by: SouthernRoots on July 27, 2005 11:26 AM
7. I'm with Michele...grateful to those who continue to pursue the truth, so what is broken can be fixed. This whole issue of when the military ballots were actually mailed, is one that I have been trying to follow.

Apparently the Feds were interested enough to threaten legal action against Washington State if military ballots were not mailed timely. KC elections officials have testified in court regarding their willingness to falsify legal documentation, but are unwilling or unable to produce adequate documentation to prove they complied with Federal deadlines as promised they would/did. It is interesting how little attention this issue is getting.

Too bad the MSM isn't interested, yet another reason why they no longer interest me as a source of news or current events. In lock step are the KC Prosescutor (implicated in covering up "found" ballots) wasting tax dollars investigating Ms. K, and the Federal Atty General who is desperately tring to look busy with an out of district investigation of the Mayor of Spokane.

Why isn't the Federal Attorney General on the bandwagon on this one, WHAT IS HIS PROBLEM?

Posted by: dl on July 27, 2005 11:42 AM
8. I find it interesting that we're looking at a report showing ballots mailed out in October that is clearly labelled at the top, "September 14, 2004 Primary and Special Election."

Posted by: TB on July 27, 2005 11:51 AM
9. Isn't it funny how we never really got to the bottom of when the military ballots were really mailed...

We were probably interupted by another scandal, possibly more ballots discovered, but I can't remember which!

Good luck Mr. Edelman, and don't hold your breath!

Posted by: Joe on July 27, 2005 11:57 AM
10. Well, there you have it.

On the OSOS spreadsheet listing military and overseas ballots, the total number listed as mailed is "15,289".

On the King County Mail Ballot Log, 4,591 ballots are shown as "mailed" (which in some cases means being taken to PSI for addditional processing before mailing) by the 9th of October.

This is confirmed by Nicole Way's e-mail to all and sundry players.

So, KCREALS own documentation, what little there is of it, shows that in the best possible scenario, only 30.02% of the King County military and overseas ballots were mailed timely.

Posted by: Good Grief on July 27, 2005 01:18 PM
11. On page 8 of the document at http://soundpolitics.com/KCMilitaryPDAResponse.pdf , Military Ballot Statistics, it shows by county how many military and overseas citizens ballots were mailed out and how many returned. The statewide average is about 77%. However, Whitman claims that while 228 were mailed out, exactly 0 were returned. Figure the odds. Is it more likely that 0 were mailed out and 0 returned?

Posted by: Michael on July 27, 2005 01:25 PM
12. While Whitman's statistics are possibly wrong, there is a greater probablility that they are right.

Whitman's entire military ballot population is seniors and the just-graduated at WSU in ROTC, a population that changes and is given their first duty assignment annually.

So, it's certainly possible that 220 ballots were sent out and none were returned, as the individuals are no longer at the duty assignment at which they registered to have their ballot sent.

Posted by: Good Grief on July 27, 2005 01:35 PM
13. This is something Shark brought up earlier. Students at WSU are supposed to register to vote in their home of record, which for many if not most WSU students is not Whitman County. Also, why would you register yourself at an overseas military address then not be there? Of course sometimes assignments change or whatever, but *0* returned? I'm not buying it.

Posted by: Michael on July 27, 2005 02:01 PM
14. In the EAC, King County extract (last page), for all overseas military ballots - NOT TRACKED. The "tracking" of overseas military ballots appear to be co-mingled with the domestic military ballots. No wonder no one knows what happened.

I wonder how many of the unreturned ballots were overseas vs. domestic.

It is disconcerting to see how many line items (8 of 25) that were answered as NOT TRACKED.

Posted by: SouthernRoots on July 27, 2005 02:01 PM
15. The total Military ballots was 15289 Yet on October 9 only 3967 ballots were mailed out. That tells me that thousands of ballots were not mailed out until after that date. No wonder they put in the information NOT TRACKED. I bet they were tracked yet conviently lost the paperwork to ensure they are not caught on a lie that all Overseas military ballots were mailed out by October 8. So when were the other 11322 military ballots mailed out. The data means there are even more questions that need to be answered.

Posted by: david anfinrud on July 27, 2005 03:19 PM
16. This really, really makes me mad. I will be getting this info to our reporter tomorrow.
I just wish I would have had this info on Monday. Handy Nick was touring these southeastern counties and I could have just asked him.
I'm with Michael, I bet they were never sent.

Posted by: cc on July 27, 2005 06:16 PM
17. RE: my above post @ 6:16 p.m.: I was refering to Whitman County 0 ballots returned, 0 counted.
I'm still really, really mad.

Posted by: cc on July 27, 2005 06:48 PM
18. Just saw a Bank of America commercial. Ron should hang his head.

Commercial says - 40 million checks processed per day. 1 error in a million is unacceptable. That would have been 3.6 errors in our last election (state wide).

Ron - the bank just defined what would make them proud - you lose.

Posted by: SouthernRoots on July 27, 2005 08:50 PM
19. Not unusual for KCE is theyhave become verry proficeint at smoke & mirrors don't they?!

Posted by: Laurie on July 28, 2005 07:24 PM
20. Well, folks, there you have it. Having been overseas during this cycle, I can report I got my ballot on Nov. 1 and sent it Nov. 1 and it took several e-mails to KC and everyone else in the state gov't (and state mems of the Fed gov) to ensure that my vote counted. And I work on a USAF base far, far removed from the fighting that just happens to be a logistics hub, hence my speedy mail delivery. Allah only know what happened to those guys in the dirt in Iraq and Afghanistan's ballots or when they arrived.

Having been exposed to more of our gov't than just the DOD, I can tell you that the DOJ and the DOS are basically a bunch of career watching A-holes. Our local federal official is way more interested in his paycheck than in your little pathetic voting mishaps. Basically, since you can't fire himj or vot him out, f you. That may seem harsh, but any of you having dealt with the DOS overseas know what I'm saying.

Posted by: Aaron on July 29, 2005 02:23 AM
21. There has got to be more to this than meets the eye.
According to Whitman County Auditor Eunice Coker, the military and overseas citizens ballots are not tracked separately. Hmmm.

Posted by: cc on July 29, 2005 10:24 AM
22. According to the Whitman County Auditor's office, there were over 150 military and overseas citizens' ballots returned. They just weren't reported separately for some reason. Their "new" software would sort this for them if the need should arise.

Posted by: cc on July 29, 2005 06:48 PM
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