August 10, 2005
Maleng cracks down on car thieves

King County Prosectuor Norm Maleng announced today he is cracking down on a record spate of car theft

In coordination with local police agencies, the new car theft initiative will create a special unit of three deputy prosecutors to work full time on auto-theft cases. It also will "rush-file" car-theft cases within 72 hours of arrest, to make certain that the accused thieves stay behind bars while their cases move forward, and will create a "Ten Most Wanted" list of the worst car thieves to be targeted for aggressive prosecution.
Sounds good to me.

Maleng will be saying more about his car theft prevention initiative and answering your questions at Monday's dinner meeting of the Downtown Seattle Republican Club. Space is still available. Come and join us! Details here. RSVP today!

Posted by Stefan Sharkansky at August 10, 2005 05:16 PM | Email This
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1. Typical King County.

Too little, too late and sentences will continue to be handslaps.

Maleng is like Reed - a wimpy excuse for a Republican!!!

Posted by: Norm on August 10, 2005 05:34 PM
2. Interesting how he planned the timing of this relativly rare inititative by his office? Just in time for the news cycle to setup his visit on Monday to the Downtown Republican Club, huh?

Sounds like he didn't want to show up and have to answer too many questions about elections, gas taxes, and other really "significant" stuff.

Maybe someone will ask him why it's taken him years in office to come up with a plan to crack down on car thieves?

Posted by: Mike on August 10, 2005 05:42 PM
3. This is better than reducing these felonies to misdemeanors, like they are doing in North Seattle:
http://archives.seattletimes.nwsource.com/cgi-bin/texis.cgi/web/vortex/display?slug=cartheft02m&date=20050602&query=felony+car+theft

Posted by: Mike on August 10, 2005 05:49 PM
4. Seattle started prosecuting auto thefts as Misdemeanors because of the lack of jail time associated with the "Felony" filings in Superior court. At least in Muni court there was a chance of getting jail time, there is none in Super court. Until the legislature increases the minimum mandatory sentence for auto theft this latest "crackdown" will be another waste of taxpayer money.

Posted by: Sierradog on August 10, 2005 06:06 PM
5. If Democrats would have been willing to create tougher laws against car theft, we wouldn't be in the position we are in today with the problem.

But at least I understand now why they refuse to write tougher laws on this and other crime...it would just net more hard criminals and put them away longer, and that would mean more felons who would lose their right to vote. And that means fewer democrat votes. (why didn't I think of that before!)

So you see, the election scandal issue and car theft really do have a connection.....

Posted by: Michele on August 10, 2005 06:16 PM
6. I'd be a lot more impressed if the crackdown was targeting election fraud.

Posted by: scott158 on August 10, 2005 06:17 PM
7. King County would have much more resources available to combat real crime like this if they were not spending 1/3rd of their criminal budget on bogus domestic violence prosecution.

Instead of catching criminals, they are more interested in conducting the gender feminist's War on the Patriarchy.

Posted by: BananaLand (aka Iguana) on August 10, 2005 06:19 PM
8. Duh. Didn't do rip when my truck was stolen a dozen-plus years ago.

Posted by: Dave on August 10, 2005 06:23 PM
9. Agree with the majority here; too little, too late. Doubt we are going to see any serious action, only noise and more money spent. Know several previous victims, nothing ever happened to the perps. One in particular, cops just called owner to come get the car when it was found, it was never fingerprinted or any attempt made to identify thief.

Posted by: dl on August 10, 2005 06:45 PM
10. Hey... car theft is an excellent way to encourage environmentaly friendly mass transit. Seattle should be grateful that these car theives are helping save the planet, cut down polution, and helping to relieve traffic congestion.

I am suprised we don't have a "Celebrate Car Thieves Day".

Besides many cars are obnoxious statments of personal success. Unless everyone can afford a BMW, no one should be allowd to own one. If we outlaw the private possession of automobiles, the government can issue Fords to those who can prove a need for them.

Posted by: Huey on August 10, 2005 06:52 PM
11. Call me cynical but it's nice to see Maleng get off his butt and do something. Especially considering that Seattle had to act first because they weren't putting enough guys away. (didn't take the time to find full PI and Times articles, apologies) Of course this is after one stolen car, and two breakins for me so it's to little to late.

If it was an election year for the prosecutor I would call it political grandstanding to win a few votes from the big city hardcore liberal residents by being tough on something that annoys them. Got a question for you to ask at the meeting Shark: "Why only now?"

Posted by: chokai on August 10, 2005 07:56 PM
12. Huey might have a point, car thieves are redistributing tangible assets of wealth.

Until the cost benefit equation changes in favor of the car owner car theft will continue. Thieves have to get caught 7-8 times before any serious jail time is considered.

If we put juveniles in detention until they were 18 and adults get 5 years for the first offense. Car theft would virtually disappear overnight.

An auto is the single most valuable asset after a home for most people, the true cost of theft is much higher than the value of the car. I know my wife's Camry has been swiped twice. Both it was recovered, surprised me I figure it was parted out within hours. Both times cops "knew" who stole it but could not place them in or with the car. Each time it was a juvey. The cops were apologetic but said if they spend the time and energy to prove the thefts, virtually nothing would happen to the punks.

Stop car theft, make it to "costly" for anyone to steal one. Anything thing else is cosmetic and for political brownie points only, not for effect.

Posted by: JCM on August 10, 2005 08:49 PM
13. Harsh penalties won't happen in this state, county or city.

Liberals are "soft on crime" because they are the criminals.

Posted by: Njerald on August 10, 2005 09:51 PM
14. Maybe KC heard that the surrounding *city* PD's were sick of waiting for them to get off their liberal lazy butts and decided to start their own car theft task forces.....

In the past.. many city police departments - had a "what's the point?" attitude after they kept arresting car thieves just to see liberal and lazy King County prosecuters and judges release them in hours!

Some Police Departments recently had the idea to get tough on car theft......I wonder if this is what inspired King County to finally do something?

Posted by: Deborah on August 10, 2005 10:04 PM
15. Put dads in jail for being out of work, but not car theives. HURRAY KING COUNTY!!!!

Posted by: Andy on August 10, 2005 10:44 PM
16. Yeah, Andy! It is amazing, isn't it? They put so many resources behind labeling fathers deadbeat dads, then spend time tracking them, finding them out of work, and then throw them in jail.

It's really a unholy system they have set up, soup to nuts. First, convince as many women as possible that they are being abused, due to things like, " he controls the finances," and "he withholds sex." Then, direct them to "advocates" who show them how to game the system. First you get a restraining order and have the guy kicked out never to return, deny access to the kids, move into a shelter for a little even though you have the house just so she can become indoctrinated with victimhood feminism.

Next, get the guy on the maximum childsupport. That money is paid to the state, who in turn pays the woman. The more money the state gets, the more federal money they receive.

When a guuy looses his job, he is not with the program, and so is jailed.

How can the police have time to catch theives, murderers, rapists, pedophiles, etc ... when they are responsible for driving revenue to the state through dead beat dads?

Posted by: BananaLand (aka Iguana) on August 11, 2005 12:30 AM
17. Iguana:

I wonder if we could call Dimwit Patty Murray, I sure she would help get our prioities straight. After all, almost half her contributions to her 2004 re-election came from right here in Washington. But most, alas, came from femiNazi groups like Emily's List (see opensecrets.org) and fatcat lobbists in California and the east coast. Murray is bought and sold by the abortion industry and other radical leftist causes. Washington votors are idiots to keep returning cretins like Murray to the Senate. It's no wonder we have no political capital in D.C.

Posted by: Saltherring on August 11, 2005 05:47 AM
18. My feeling on car thieves is treat them as Horse thieves. Too bad nobody considers a car essential like the horse was in the Old west. Horses was a persons way to do his work. Just as a car is essential for the same purpose today. Instead the touchy feely crowd dont think of it being a crime. It doesnt affect me so I dont want to do anything about the issue. Hanging is a bit extreme but the Automobile in today's society is as important as the horse was in the 1800's.
Another point is the Automobile is personal property. I guess personal property rights were taken away starting with the car decades ago now they are going after the land. I wonder when they will come after the house like in New London CT. The liberals in this state have slowly removed the right to own property. BUt look at those politicians like Ron SIms. He gets a driver. He could never afford that if he had to pay for it out of his own pocket. He would rather pick our pockets then use his own money. Because he and other top officials dont worry about loosing their vehicles I guess it is not a crime worth paying attention to.
Just like in CA where they have lost track of thousands of government own vehicles. I wonder how many we have lost in this state. They would never admit to losing anything. I just wonder.

Posted by: David Anfinrud on August 11, 2005 06:40 AM
19. With a lot of cars costing $10,000 or more, why is car theft treated so lightly? If someone was to steal jewels or cash valued at $10,000 or more, would they get 7-8 chances before jail time?

The practice of letting car theives off for multiple offences has never made sense to me. At least it looks as if someone is finally doing something to correct that.

Posted by: SouthernRoots on August 11, 2005 07:28 AM
20. Roots,

LOOKS being the operative word.

Is Norm up for re-election this Nov? That might explain the sudden belated interest in car theft.

Posted by: JCM on August 11, 2005 07:39 AM
21. Banana - "When a guuy looses his job, he is not with the program, and so is jailed." WTF do you get this stuff from...this blog is getting too crazy to read anymore!

Posted by: Huh? on August 11, 2005 09:36 AM
22. Huh-

You've got to peel the onion on the dirty money trail. The trail of dirty money in child support is an embarassment beyond mafia.

Point being is that KC and PC police do a round up of deadbead dads every year- with tons of news coverage- for what??? being in debt? If NORM hasn't been chasing car theives- it's because he's been too busy orchestrating stuff like this. Why? because the trail of money goes WAY beyond feeding kids- it funds a lot of garbage in DSHS. Kids are merely the human shield they use to collect money- otherwise youd see guys like Norm standing up for stuff like shared parenting.

To date- NOT ONCE have I seen as much publicity towards worthwhile stuff from police or prosecutors as there is for DBD round ups.

Posted by: Andy on August 11, 2005 09:49 AM
23. Andy, you (mostly have it right, but please permit an edit: "You've got want to to peel the onion on the dirty money trail."

Too few know or care despite the fact that every male that has kids & goes through divorce gets to ride the blade...

Posted by: alphabet soup on August 11, 2005 10:04 AM
24. Huh,

Don't read it then.

So-called deadbeat dads are put in jail frequently in this state because they are unemployed.
I know because I have worked within this system. Attend the weekly Tuesday morning 10:00 A.M. calendar
at the Regional "Justice" Center and see them in their jumpsuits.
The legal basis for incarceration is "civil contempt of court" for not obeying a court order to get a job.
They can legally put you there for up to 90 days at which time they must release you, and order you to find a job again.
If you fail to find sustained employment after a suitable period of time or you refuse, they can jail you again.

Don't be foolish.

Posted by: Amused by liberals on August 11, 2005 10:07 AM
25. Hey, they aren't even nice to those paying support. I've done payroll, and always dread having to call DSHS about anything. Most of the people I've talked to down there are just mean and cranky, even when you're doing what they demand.

Posted by: dl on August 11, 2005 01:56 PM
26. Oooh, Norm's gonna get tough on car thiefs eh? Yeah sure. Just like he did on one UW football player for sexual assault. Then the alumni club came to the football teams rescue. I wonder if there's some alum in the chop shop that might be getting the winky-winky-nod-nod on this one.

Posted by: PC on August 11, 2005 02:48 PM
27. I don't know why anyone is surprised that nothing has been done to this point. And I doubt that these new revelations will do much to curb it either. The fact is that the liberals who control state and local government despise cars. It's that simple. If you are not riding the bus, taking the train or whatever focackta system they come up with next, then you are part of the problem. So along with billions of dollars of your money to build HOV lanes, they'll let Grand Theft Auto add to the mix to get you on the bus.

Posted by: Palouse on August 11, 2005 04:30 PM
28. Symbolic "get tough?" well, fine--who cares--deadbeats need punishment, not "counseling;"

Now--will he attack the voter fraud and other abuses of homeless folks on our streets and parks? Are we now in a law-abiding Renaisannce? I'll drop a turd if Seattle actually "gets tough on crime!" hey--I watched WTO from 20 floors up--my former city would have brought out the 'shooters' and bull dozers with no crap tolerated;

visitors, tourists and residents want peace & order; no handcuffing the police; I'm not a 'rabid right' guy, just a guy who understands law & order; everybody benefits--small business & residents; 'too-much-freedom-chaos' kills us all;

Posted by: Jimmie-howya-doin on August 11, 2005 07:17 PM
29. Wow, I am sooooooo impressed.

Now if he would just do the same thing about serial murderers, rapists, illegal aliens, and, oh, let's say, certain fraudulent and corrupt county and elections administration officials...?

Posted by: ERNurse on August 11, 2005 10:01 PM
30. Street cops are just as frusterated by this as the victims are. We catch 'em and the courts let 'em go.
See...majority of time we catch a thief in the car he/she claims that they just bought it from a friend or borrowed the car from a friend. With no witness you can't prove they are the one who actually took the car
They didn't "know" it was stolen...ya riiight. Ignition punched, window broken & screwdriver used to start the car....go figure. So they are booked for PSP (Possession of Stolen Property)
Prosecutor says they can't prove that the person knew the car was stolen so they do not pursue the case...guys gets cut loose to do it again..and the beat goes on....Maleng is postering (sp?)...nothing more.

Posted by: Blueknight on August 12, 2005 02:49 AM
31. Am I supposed to be impressed? I"ll admit Norm is finally doeing something about car theft I agree with the rest of you here he still is a day late and a $ short!

Posted by: Laurie on August 12, 2005 09:01 AM
32. When I saw Gil K. (Chief) arrive from PA, I cheered & assumed, "Good--a big-city guy who will revive the nightstick!" I was disappointed.

I'm confident that 'those on the line' want to clean things up. I gladly & proudly support them. However, like the military, I fear the 'higher-ups' now are too political and miss their original mission and oath--to protect us GOOD citizens from the rabble.

We need more 'just say no's' on juries to stand up to the liberal forces that are fighting harder for the perp's than the people. I for one will if chosen, but they won't choose me on a jury--bet on it-- :)

Posted by: Jimmie-howya-doin on August 12, 2005 12:17 PM
33. Actually arresting car thiefs & cracking down?

Woah--do I smell the sea brine of the morning Seattle fog rolling in or is that REAL testosterone FINALLY oozing out of our leaders' pores?

Posted by: Jimmie-howya-doin on August 12, 2005 09:30 PM
34. Oh yeah, let's not forget that with this will come the lamentings of "we need more money to expand our jails". Such in-humane conditions these warts of society are forced to live in ya know.

Posted by: PC on August 13, 2005 10:01 AM
35. Maleng "tough" on ANYTHING?!? Puhleeze...remember the case of Sarah Potts, the SUV-driving cellphone yakker who MURDERED AN ENTIRE FAMILY when she rammed her Panzerwagen into the back of their Honda? Norm: "Okay, throw the book at her...and the kitchen sink, too. What's that you said...her husband's a Bothell cop? Never mind...gotta have the police unions' support next November...let's just offer her a plea deal on 'aggravated vehicular shenanigans' and fine her 5 bucks..." He's an incompetent tool who should have been recalled years ago.

Posted by: Jeff on August 13, 2005 06:51 PM
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