August 22, 2005
Seattle hate crime

Yet another incident of political violence in a city that is proud of its tradition of tolerance and inclusion.

Posted by Stefan Sharkansky at August 22, 2005 09:52 AM | Email This
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1. Leave the area immediately?

Why?

This action just gave the perp a chance to beat it.

Why would the police want you to get away from a "windshield wiper vandal"?

Posted by: jaybo on August 22, 2005 10:03 AM
2. I have no problem with that instruction. The dispatcher has no idea how this might escalate. If the caller tried to physically restrain him, who knows what might happen. Even just staying in sight might put the caller in danger.

Posted by: eirik on August 22, 2005 10:11 AM
3. he should have kicked his ass

Posted by: TY on August 22, 2005 10:21 AM
4. The dispatcher was giving a standard instruction that had no bearing in this situation.

Aaron should have waited on the barstool next to the perp, while staying on the phone with 911. "I'm sitting next to the perp and I'm not letting him get away. I'll follow him home if I have to. If you want to mitigate the situation then you better get an officer here ASAP!! The sooner the officer gets here the sooner they'll stop me from kicking the perps @$$."

Unfortunately, as with the King County Elections Commission, Seattle and Washington State are places where you often have to do the work of the police for them. I have called them for help several times, and they've never been able to identify a perp nor make an arrest.

Get a small digital camera and carry it with you wherever you go. If the cops won't do their jobs, we as citizens must take up the slack until they perform.

Posted by: Larry on August 22, 2005 10:22 AM
5. Of course my first question has to be: Why would any self-respecting person be in that cesspool in the first place?

Second, if you have to be there, why aren't you armed?

Third, If you're there, and unarmed, WTF are you advertising your Outsider status with the bumper stickers?!

That said, Aaron did the right thing (which essentially was nothing). Provoking the cowardly liberals would only lead to more violence (which Aaron obviously wasn't prepared to deal with). Replacing car parts is cheaper than teeth or bones.

The only problem with this whole story is that these poster boys for the democrat party now think that they are bulletproof. Someone else is ultimately going to have to deal with them. Pity the cops didn't....

Posted by: alphabet soup on August 22, 2005 10:41 AM
6. Just another example of the "loving and tolerant" Left.

Q: If you have Kerry and NARAL and Animal 'rights' stickers on your car in my eastside neighborhood, guess what happens to your car???

A: Nothing.

You see, unlike Seattleites, we really ARE tolerant here in Sammamish.

Posted by: Michele on August 22, 2005 10:44 AM
7. Thiry-something obese body-pierced radical left wing thugs? Kind of defeats the liberal left's personal perception of themselves as the sophisticated and educated elite!

Let's face it - these 2 assholes represent the vast majority of the liberal left in Seattle. If you aren't convinced - check out the participants in the next *liberal* sponsored protest rally in Seattle! Look at these people! They are radical in the worst way. Purple, orange bleached or extreme black dyed hair, grotesque body piercings, filthy, drugged, aggressive..(OK - they try to place a few *grandma* and *uncle Bob* looking characters along the outer rings of the march..just to confuse those who are disgusted)...Does this fringe group truly represent half of this county?
If the *moderate* Democrats in King County don't stand up pretty soon and denounce these mutant's and insist on honest elections - they will find themselves voiceless among liberal left moonbat thugs! And... the Democrat party - as a whole - will continue to spiral into treasonous and criminal infamy!

Posted by: Deborah on August 22, 2005 10:45 AM
8. One word: "Taser"

Posted by: Cryptometaphor on August 22, 2005 11:10 AM
9. Ah! Life in toleratant leftist Seattle.

I love using this phrase to 911 operators, speeds response 10x, "I am hold suspect(s) at gun point."

Posted by: JCM on August 22, 2005 11:40 AM
10. Now I know why those camera-phones are a good idea.

Posted by: Regret on August 22, 2005 11:40 AM
11. This happened to me too.

Two years ago I visited my sister at her apartment for dinner, she lives on capitol hill.
I parked on the street outside her building. At the time I had a small american flag window cling and small "W 04" window cling in the back window of my car.

When I went to my car 3 hours later to head home there was a deep scratch along the trunk of my car. Most likely from a key.

I figured the irony of the whole thing is the person who keyed my car probably rants about tolerance and diversity, but then goes out and destroys the property of people who doesn't share similar views.

Aren't some residents of capitol hill wonderful!

Posted by: Joe on August 22, 2005 11:41 AM
12. Larry and Ty got it right. I understand alphabet soup's admonition to watch out for your teeth. However, I've always been of the notion that if someone is itchin' for a fight, he ought not be disappointed. A real man doesn't damage someone else's property. He confronts him face to face.

By definition, this tolerant neanderthal is a coward. Give him the a** whipping he so richly deserves.

Posted by: Danny on August 22, 2005 11:44 AM
13. Terrible to hear, but not surprising. Parked cars are an easy target, especially in Seattle.

Aaron- you can borrow my Taser X26C anytime pal!

Shark- nice to see your post on this topic. I doubt the MSM will even acknowledge this occured...

Posted by: Patrick E. Bell on August 22, 2005 12:07 PM
14. It's incidents like this that support my decision never to enter King County with anything less than one spare magazine. And I'm not talking about a copy of Reader's Digest.


For those interested in exercising one of their fundamental rights in a safe, effective, legal and (important in King County) discrete manner, pay attention to the accompanying links. Even if you're part of a community of people that aren't traditionally associated with exercising that right.


And if you can't be moved to take that step to ensure your own personal protection, at least get a defense spray with indelible UV dye in it. Even though OC spray isn't entirely effective against assailants that are high, naturally resistant or extremely angry, it'll make it easier to identify the offender after the fact (whether or not you survive to make an identification).

Posted by: gmcraff on August 22, 2005 12:14 PM
15. I had a similar incident happen to me last week. No property damage, thankfully, but it does make you wonder about the left these days. Do they seriously think that threats and vandalism will change peoples' minds? If so, they've jettisoned their last remnant of political relevance.

Posted by: Nathan Azinger on August 22, 2005 12:26 PM
16. Hey Aaron, glad you're okay. Too bad the perps got away. Keep the faith. We can't let incidents like this deter us from Seattle. If we fear this sort of action and not dare to enter Seattle proclaiming our political views we are not exercizing our first amendment rights and only letting them win. In all battles for freedom a little blood (or washer fluid in this case) must be spilled.

Posted by: Mark Griswold on August 22, 2005 12:35 PM
17. I work down the road from there a little ways, toward Lake Washington. I must say I am NOT surprised this happened. I have had Dubya stickers ripped from my vehicle, and two "Support Our Troops" magnetic ribbons have met a similar demise.

Yep, the ol' liberal lefties: loving, kind, open, caring - as long as you agree with everything they do, say, think, feel...

Posted by: SnoCo Voter on August 22, 2005 12:46 PM
18. Thanks, Mark. I am channelling my anger into activism. I've always been involved in politics, but lately I've been getting a little dispassionate. Watching that thug snap that wiper off my car gave me enough political energy to last at least the next two years.

And to everyone else, yes, I should NOT have listened to the dispatcher. I should have stayed in the bar right near him. I was not afraid that he was going to get violent, particularly with a ton of people around. I just wasn't thinking clearly and when the dispatcher said very sternly that I should leave right away, I did.

And I have a camera phone, too! I just was on the phone with 911 the whole time I was around him. At least I'll know what to do better the next time it happens to me.

Posted by: Aaron on August 22, 2005 12:47 PM
19. Hello.

I have an idea I am surprised no one has thought of. First aquire as many Bush/Cheney stickers as possible. Second, go to Capital Hill and start placing said stickers on as many cars as you are able to do, as discretely as possible. Third, sit back and watch the fun. (Remember to try and cover any Kerry/Edwards stickers in the process.)

Domo.

Posted by: Left Behind byt the New Democratic Party on August 22, 2005 01:38 PM
20. This is why I don't like going to Capital Hill. haha.

It's true though - the people that talk the most about acceptance and tolerance, and demand that everyone accept and tolerate whatever fringe aspect of their lives that they define themselves by are some of the most intolerate and unaccepting people that I've ever encountered.

They have no qualms about calling you every name in the book for being a Christian, for being conservative, for supporting the military or President Bush. However, the moment you say anything that their fragile little minds can stretch and (mis)construe to be in anyway a slander against them, it becomes evidence of why conservatives are ignorant and why America is such a terrible country. Then they'll spend as long as they can lecturing about how liberals are such openminded, wonderfully tolerant people, and how we need to be more like Canada.

If these people didn't actually believe the crap that they were spewing, it would all be very amusing.

Posted by: Darth Dogbert on August 22, 2005 01:44 PM
21. I wear my USS Ronald Reagan hat every time I go into Seattle. The pure venom in peoples eyes when the bother to read it. Not one has had the gonads to challenge me, I do enjoy watching moonbats seeth when they see it.

Posted by: JCM on August 22, 2005 01:50 PM
22. Yep, the moonbats read enough of the unhinged rhetoric from the Horses Ass and it whips them into an hysterical left wing range.

They take out their rage on cars, bumper stickers, etc. because they are too cowardly to argue rationally with people, and so upset that their failed ideas are not resonating with most Americans.

I live near UPS in Tacoma, and last fall a couple of moonbats stole bumber stickers from my car, and threw a full Starbucks Latte at my car. Unfortunately, they were gone before I could get outside to see what the noise was.

Posted by: Jeff B. on August 22, 2005 01:59 PM
23. Yep, the moonbats read enough of the unhinged rhetoric from the Horses Ass and it whips them into an hysterical left wing range.
-Posted by Jeff B. at August 22, 2005 01:59 PM

I've stopped going there (HA.org) for that exact reason... and because I found MYSELF getting wound up, angry and hateful.

Amusing as they can be occasionally, it's like being in the vicinity of a funny drunk (which from their posts, I gather most actually are over at HA) - eventually it's not fun or funny anymore. The viciousness with which they 'debate' (HA!... the term 'debate' is used loosely!) is insidious and I prefer to associate with those who elevate me than those whose only goal is to drag down and destroy.

This time, I'll just be...

Posted by: Anonymous on August 22, 2005 03:07 PM
24. To the lefties out there reading these comments - and by your silence - condoning the behavior of your political allies ... just keep it up.

Keep poking the bear with your sticks. One of these days you're going to get a response which might surprise you, and you won't like it. And you'll have no one to blame but yourselves.

Posted by: jimg on August 22, 2005 03:44 PM
25. This post and the comments are absolutely pathetic. It's a true shame what happened to the individual whose car was vandalized, but what evidence is there that the "perp" was liberal, lefty, commie, whatever. By the description, the two overweight types dressed in "punk" attire could just as easily have been skinhead, anarchists or just stoners. Let's face it, with an approval rating of just 38%, our president is dislike by a whole lot of people. I personally know a lot of conservatives who think the president is a fool, who has squandered America's resources, gotten American soliders needlessly killed and kowtows to multinational corporations. Rather than using this episode as an opportunity to (unfairly?) bash the left, perhaps we should give some thought as to how this administration has gone wrong and how we can bring it back on course.

Posted by: Brenda on August 22, 2005 04:59 PM
26. Brenda you are a liar. You don't know any conservatives.

Posted by: Dave on August 22, 2005 05:34 PM
27. I think the lesson to be learned here is that Aaron should have taken the bus.

Posted by: john on August 22, 2005 05:50 PM
28. Brenda, I think Dave is right. You don't SOUND like you know any conservatives. They don't talk like that.
I personally DO know a lot of REAL conservatives and I haven't heard a one of them spew like you just did.
You don't sound truthful at all.

Posted by: Michele on August 22, 2005 06:07 PM
29. ..and it's kind of lame how you bring up a 38% approval rating to justify someone's vandalism.

Just because Mrs. Christine Gregoire has an approval rating of 36%, I would NEVER suggest that it would justify behavior like that. You've been caught trying to use an approval rating to justify bad, criminal behavior. I see reasoning like that from the left more times than I care to admit, and it sounds just as silly as ever coming from you.

Posted by: Michele on August 22, 2005 06:12 PM
30. Brenda,

According to Rasmussen:
Monday August 22, 2005--Forty-eight percent (48%) of American adults now approve of the way George W. Bush is performing his role as President.

Fifty-one percent (51%) disapprove.

Just 23% of Americans Strongly Approve of the President's Performance while 38% Strongly Disapprove. Six months ago, following the Iraqi elections, those numbers were essentially even. On the day the President delivered his State of the Union Address, 33% Strongly Approved of the President's Performance while 31% Strongly Disapproved.

Thirty-nine percent (39%) of Americans believe it is time to withdraw U.S. troops from Iraq.

Do a google search before you spout your false rhetoric.


Posted by: cc on August 22, 2005 06:27 PM
31. Brenda,

Regardless if the folks you know are conservitave or liberal I think they need to cut back on the strong drink and whacky weed.

As for getting things on track a few 200kt airbursts
over enemy cities like Meca, Damascus, Theran and Berkley would be a good start.

Posted by: Petrock on August 22, 2005 06:31 PM
32. It sounds like someone was getting to be just a little too “uppity” in the wrong part of the city. Doesn’t this guy Aaron know that his kind ain’t welcomed round these here parts. I guess it’s the natural order of things since Democrats are no longer able to run blacks, Chinese, Japanese or Indians out of town on a rail any more.

When I worked in Leavenworth back in 2002, I caught two men in the act of stealing my work camera out of my vehicle and I chased the pair for half a mile and right into the Wenatchee River. Two Chelan County deputies were there in 20 minutes, after driving from 30miles away, and caught two rather wet thieves half an hour later. Both enjoyed the hospitality of room and board at the taxpayers’ expense for the next month.

There isn't really any connection and I'm not trying to denigrate the Seattle PD who usually do a good job in often times impossible situations. Sometimes citizens need to go the extra step assist police in a safe and intelligent way.

Posted by: Reporterward on August 22, 2005 08:12 PM
33. Aaron,

If you are going to sport an NRA sticker on your car, I would suggest you follow through on what that suggests....

Posted by: SuziHomemaker on August 22, 2005 08:46 PM
34. Hmmm - the area you're talking about is right next to a rave nightclub - a gay bar and another night spot (I can't think of the name...but I know the cops are constantly called there)

My money is on the rave for where these moonbats came from....(Though - their description would allow them entrance into any of the three clubs!)

Great place Seattle is.......just like in the tour brochures!....NOT.

Posted by: Deborah on August 22, 2005 10:44 PM
35. As a leftist and Capitol Hill area resident, it is a pleasure to get the opportunity to agree with people on this blog - there is no excuse for vandalism, no matter who is doing it.

Posted by: ChrisB on August 22, 2005 11:46 PM
36. Thanks ChrisB,

At least there is some vestage of civilization left.

;-)

Posted by: Petrock on August 22, 2005 11:52 PM
37. This incident is more evidence of how badly Seattle is slipping ... as a vacation destination, as a place to live, as a place to work, as a place to want to build a business, as a place to raise a family.

I have to wonder if any of the morons running the city/county/state have ever even pondered why we no longer have something as simple as decent department stores anymore. Do you see a Saks 5th Avenue? Lord and Taylor? Dillards? Neiman Marcus? Even little Caswell Massey packed up and LEFT Seattle years ago.

How is it that a popular vacation destination like Tampa Florida, with a city population of 321,772, a county population of 1,101,261, a mean household income of $40,663 (in 2004) and 600+ millionaires have ALL OF THOSE, but an equally popular vacation destination like Seattle, with a city population of 572,600 (+250,828), a county population of 1,777,143 (+675,882) and a mean household income of $45,776 (in 1999!!), I would guess at least 600+ millionaires with just Microsoft alone (and we know positively about 4 billionaires... Gates, Allen, Ballmer, McCaw) have NONE?

This city/county/state began a decline from its glory days in the late 80's/early 90's-mid (gosh, wasn't that when the liberal Californication began?) and now, I fear, it has fallen so badly it will never recover.

Seattle was Seattle was considered America’s most Livable City in 1993.

Seattle was ranked No.2 among major U.S. cities as the best place to raise kids 1994 and a nationwide poll of top executives ranked Seattle No.2 among major U.S cities as a place to locate a desirable business.

Seattle was rated tops again in 1996 from Fortune magazine. “ An affordable life. A safe life. A profitable life. May be even a wonderful life” It was rated the best cities for work and family.

Now, it's ranked 88th as most livible city/best places to live, while Tampa, barely making the list back then, is 48th.

How the mighty have fallen.
How sad.
How sadly preventable.

There IS one demographic in which Seattle is just about equal with Tampa: homeless population. BUT,while Tampa (with about 8000 homeless in Hillsborough County in 2004) arrests individuals for serving food to homeless people, Seattle (with about an equal 8000 homeless in King County) gives them campouts next to elementary shools and churches. While Seattle area homeless population is going up, uP, UP (Hello! Can anyone say just in little ol' Ballard alone there was an increase of over 132%??!), Tampa's is going DOWN, DOwn, down.

Someone in this pitiful place needs to wake up... and stop depending on the Starbucks to make Seattle vibrant and welcoming again.

Posted by: Cheryl on August 23, 2005 12:31 PM
38. SuziHomemaker: That's a good idea. In a perfect world, though, one shouldn't have to carry around a gun in order to protect oneself from crazy liberals. That said, the NRA sticker was put on the car by the previous owners. I will not remove it because I believe in what they stand for. I've only fired a gun once, though. It was our annual College Republican "shoot-out" event at Wades.

Posted by: Aaron on August 23, 2005 02:23 PM
39. Aaron,


If you're interested in firing a personal defense appliance (how's that for pseudo-PC-speak?) again, let me know and I'll set aside some time to meet you at a range. I'll provide the lane and a few appliances if you'll contribute to ammo.


I'll also demonstrate a deep concealment holster. You'd never know I was carrying anything unless you used a metal detector on me.

Posted by: gmcraff on August 23, 2005 04:14 PM
40. I've got a 9-iron, a pack of zip ties and stack of GWB stickers if anyone is interested in a hunting trip.

Posted by: Andy on August 24, 2005 01:10 PM
41. It seems people are questioning why Aaron was on Capital Hill. Aaron doesn't seem to want to answer. Well...Aaron tell them the real reason you were parked near CC's...I bet the invitation "ta go shootin'" will be revoked pretty quickly!

Posted by: Pete Butler on August 27, 2005 06:28 PM
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