September 30, 2005
Earthquake Hits Seattle: Minorities Disproportionately Affected

An intelligent discussion of "racial health disparities" would look at comparative data on income and employment, education, family structure, diet, substance abuse, smoking, incarceration rates, and - less quantifiable, but of paramount importance - the role of the individual. Predictably, though, such factors are almost completely ignored in a front-page local section story in the Seattle Times on Washington state's first "Diversity Health Summit" today in Sea-Tac. Except for a throw-away reference near the end to income and geography. Instead, what we get - you're just not gonna believe this, I know - is that It's Whitey's Fault.

...in general, minorities die from disease more often than white people. The reasons are wide-ranging, health-care providers say: from institutional racism and a lack of affordable health care to a poor understanding of different cultures and fear by some minorities that they will not be treated with respect.

Those facts and others have driven the state's policy makers, health-care providers and community activists to hold the state's first Diversity Health Summit today in SeaTac to discuss ideas for reducing racial health disparities. It will feature workshops on everything from promoting diversity in the health-care work force to cancer screening in communities of color. Gov. Christine Gregoire is expected to attend. The summit will be an inspiring show of unity, say activists and health-care providers.

Actually, the summit is a dispiriting show of the public-employee-union-driven agenda to preserve the Clientized State so that social service workers and administrators who couldn't remotely hack it in the private sector can feel virtuous, put their kids through college, buy the requisite vacation cottage on Whidbey Island, and retire on comfy pensions.

In a table appended to the story, several interesting patterns become evident. Blacks rank highest in (state Health Dept.) mortality rates per 100,000 for five of the six diseases listed: diabetes, lung cancer, breast cancer, heart disease, and stroke. And except for invasive cervical cancer, Asians rank lowest or second-to-lowest in mortality from the listed diseases. Interestingly, whites seem to be having a few problems of their own, according to the state data, ranking higher in mortality from lung and breast cancer than Hispanics, Asians and Native Americans; and higher than Hispanics and Asians for heart disease and stroke.

So, one minority group does very poorly, another does well, and two other minority groups show mixed results. Whites obviously have their problems too, outcome-wise. And this demonstrates "institutional racism" and cultural insensitivity?

This "summit" is just a set-up. Coming very soon, I promise: Democrat-sponsored state legislation mandating "cultural competency" training for doctors and nurses.

Posted by Matt Rosenberg at September 30, 2005 09:57 AM | Email This
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1. What's next, leeches for all?

Posted by: HappyGoLucky on September 30, 2005 10:28 AM
2. 1. Sponsor a feel good seminar
2. Wring hands
3. Blame white people
4. Repeat as necessary

Posted by: Rick on September 30, 2005 10:33 AM
3. Say it ain't so.
PLLLLEEEEAAASSSEEE Matt....say it ain't so!

Posted by: Mr. Cynical on September 30, 2005 10:34 AM
4. A statistic not widely reported in the coverage of Kristina, was that unmarried women with children were disproportionably impacted by a huge margin. I guess that little fact doesn’t fit the ideology agenda. Furthermore, it’s never more obvious that they are working an agenda as when they pull certain minorities (most often Asians) from their statistics. Figures lie and liars figure.

Posted by: ronin on September 30, 2005 10:39 AM
5. Are they planning on breaking out gender in these mortality schedules? Aren't men "cheated" out of about 5 years of life, on average? Where is the outrage? Where are the $$$?

Posted by: huckleberry on September 30, 2005 10:58 AM
6. "Cultural competency?"

One of the guys who got into med school with a lower score than Allan Bakke later had his license pulled because he was so incompetent as a surgeon that one or two of his patients undergoing simple plastic surgery bled to death.

The only kind of competency I want medical personnel screened for is medical competency. Anything that dilutes that -- whether in the name of racial balance, gender balance, political balance, left-hander balance or Husky-Coug balance -- in that it detracts from the only criterion that should count, is literally murder.

Posted by: TB on September 30, 2005 11:26 AM
7. Choices, choices, choices.
equals...
Results, results, results.
leading to...
Blame, blame, blame.
and then...
Sue, sue, sue.

All hail the diversity industry. Everything causes everything. Or is it just bad Feng Shui?
This momentous 'summit' is held at a time when SEA should be thinking about civil defense, homeland security and a host of other REAL imminent issues in place of a kvetch session of finger pointing designed to make up for a lack of citizens' personal responsibilities.

Posted by: Jimmie-howya-doin on September 30, 2005 11:51 AM
8. The creation, out of whole cloth, of a cultural
elite. Something new here?

Let's hear Claire's comments on this one.

Posted by: Amused by liberal communists on September 30, 2005 11:51 AM
9. I agree with all and want to add that a predominant meme in liberal circles is the desire to equalize outputs.
Their theory is that if there is differences in groups then we must equalize what the results are. If women live longer we need to change this? If blacks or hispanics score lower on achievement tests then change the system until we can make them feel good. If women and men perform physical tasks at different levels on average then make new standards for women like in military recruits.

Posted by: Ronald Rutherford on September 30, 2005 11:57 AM
10. "Cultural competency" can't be too far behind if firefighter volunteers had to sit in Atlanta for "cultural sensitivity" training before going to New Orleans.

What these hand wringers should do is go to Harborview for a week or so to observe what really goes on. I am sure these logic impaired individuals would be absolutely stunned at what goes on. Hats off to the good people at Harborview who have to deal with such a difficult patient population and a bureaucracy that encorages it.

When are these dingbats going to realize PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY is what needs to be emphasized?!?!?!? Oh, wait. .we can't do that because then you would find out there are those who do not want to be responsible no matter what the consequences.

Posted by: Burdabee on September 30, 2005 12:10 PM
11. ANOTHER liberal feel-good seminar. But what will they really have accomplished when it's over?

Posted by: Realist on September 30, 2005 12:47 PM
12. Realist - Very simple, another way to take funds away for non-essentials like police and fire fighters, wait for the outcry, and then raise taxes to pay for police and fire fighters. Simple, and sickening!

Posted by: fred on September 30, 2005 01:13 PM
13. Keep Whidbey Island out of this. We have more than our share of leftist clowns on the island.

Posted by: Gary Bezowsky on September 30, 2005 01:27 PM
14. What irritates me the most about such attitudes is the total lack of personal responsibility. If I smoked cigarettes for 50 years and developed lung cancer, it's MY fault, not the tobacco companies. Having chldren out-of-wedlock almost gurantees poverty. Personal choices have consequneces, both good and bad.

TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOUR LIVES, PEOPLE!

Posted by: Libertarian on September 30, 2005 01:33 PM
15. It seems like this state (or at least a fair number of its communities) already considers police and firefighters "non-essential" to the point that they're only willing to fund them by levy.

Posted by: Vexorg on September 30, 2005 01:38 PM
16. Vexorg, we only have special levies for police, firefighters and emergency medical services because the political elites know those levies will almost always pass. The electorate can easily recognize essential services. This strategy allows the political elites to fund such things as hotels for drunks because the electorate would never vote to waste taxpayer funds in such a manner.

Posted by: Gary Bezowsky on September 30, 2005 01:52 PM
17. S0000000, what in the world is the difference between socialism,communism and democrat-ism?
Will someone please explain to those of us who are really stupid.

Posted by: sassy on September 30, 2005 02:25 PM
18. S0000000, what in the world is the difference between socialism,communism and democrat-ism?
Will someone please explain to those of us who are really stupid.

Posted by: sassy on September 30, 2005 02:26 PM
19. saasy

ABSOLUTELY NOTHING --

Posted by: Bill on September 30, 2005 02:49 PM
20. When are we going to have the honesty to say in public that the most racist segments of the community are the white liberals and the black activists? If we really want to eliminate racism, then it is time to stop these purveyors of hate and divisiveness from getting a free ride. Tired of it. Totally.

Posted by: duhh on September 30, 2005 03:43 PM
21. socialists are just communists with better taste in clothes; democrats are just socialists with a better sales pitch.

Posted by: libertarianobserver on September 30, 2005 03:46 PM
22. socialists are just communists with better taste in clothes; democrats are just socialists with a better sales pitch.

Posted by: libertarianobserver on September 30, 2005 03:46 PM
23. sorry for the double post, folks.

Posted by: libertarianobserver on September 30, 2005 03:47 PM
24. Communism = Communal ownership of just about everything. Differential outcomes never/rarely tolerated.

Socialism = Communal ownership of the means of production. Many, but only small, differential outcomes tolerated.

Democratism = Socialism lite. Means of production privately owned, but heavily regulated and taxed. Larger differential outcomes tolerated.

Posted by: Brad on September 30, 2005 03:52 PM
25. Brad---
You nailed it pardner!!
Save that post and repeat it LIBERALLY (as in beat it to death)!

Posted by: Mr. Cynical on September 30, 2005 04:19 PM
26. "Freedom is not free, when we have freedom, we must defend it…my freedom has been taken away once during the Khmer Rouge communist regime [Democratic Kampuchea], where the government controlled all businesses, people at home and at work, my family and I didn't get our freedom back until we came to America.", Savun Neang

Posted by: KhmerGOP on September 30, 2005 05:35 PM
27. I wish they'd instead focus on actual important stuff, like vote fraud and corruption in Olympia by prevailing special interests.

Posted by: Misty on September 30, 2005 07:24 PM
28. Do Jews have any special health problems? Just wondering, since you seemed so concerned about minorities.

Posted by: headless lucy on September 30, 2005 07:29 PM
29. Misty, ain't a-gonna happen. The vote fraud and corruption is what keeps the LLLs in power!

Focussing on important things/issues would only reveal what hollow excuses for "leaders" they really are.

Sorry - reality bites!

igor

Posted by: igor on September 30, 2005 07:33 PM
30. Matt Rosenberg-

Your ignorance of this issue is exceeded only by the ignorance and irrelevance of the comments in this thread. Things they are covering at the conference include preventive care, and early screening, not a whole lot of "blame whitey" about that.

There are even parts of conference that are discussing the role of individuals in the outcome of their own health, through early engagement and positive choices, being covered.

Perhaps your distress is caused by a guilty conscience. Whether or not you choose to admit it, minorities do have a lower level of access to quality healthcare and statistics reflect that. I won't turn this into a discussion about overall lack of access, since that is might not be construed as "local politics."

And yes "cultural sensitivity" is a core competency for health care workers, at least those who are involved in direct care. The interection between doctors and patients is based on a relationship. In order for a doctor to provide good care s/he needs to understand things about the cultural background of a patient to know if there are things that will help or prevent them from developing a working relationship. Simple as that.

Posted by: BlueDonkee on September 30, 2005 07:58 PM
31. Ahh, I see they've issued the weekend passes from the loony bin.

The single most important lesson I've learned in my adult life is that, the more liberals talk, the more they reveal how little they know about any of the crap they pontificate about ;'}

Posted by: alphabet soup on September 30, 2005 09:15 PM
32. Don't want to interrupt your reflexive loop tape here, but I didn't see any "blaming white people" mentioned in the article or the seminar it discusses.

Just a series of observations from medical professionals, private and public, about a significant public health issue. But who am I to tell you to let facts get in the way of your flogging the old multicultural buggaboo effigy?

Why should the folks that gave us the Southern Strategy, Willie Horton, and Jesse Helms ever relinquish the gift that keeps on giving?

Posted by: bartelby on September 30, 2005 09:54 PM
33. Hey, BlueDonkee, your name sure tells all! Reread the article and then get out in the "diverse" community and observe what happens out there. Blaming "cultural insensitivity" and lack of nationalized health care won't solve the problem.

As one who took part in the free clinic health system many years ago, the care is there if you get off your duff to go get it. You may have to wait longer to see the doctor or nurse, but they are available.

It is far easier to point fingers and implement more government programs than to look at what the real problems are. For example, the article did not mention how many illegals are receiving medical services or how many unconscious drunks receive CAT scans in Seattle, let alone in the rest of the state. There are only so many dollars and resources to go around, no matter how much wishful thinking you do.

Posted by: Burdabee on September 30, 2005 09:59 PM
34. One lesson from New Orleans: In any future disaster, blacks, who have swapped their freedom for slavery on the Democrat Plantation, will be pathetically helpless, and dangerous to whites. Increase the disaster and watch the race war that only a dictatorship can stop. Then the plantations become gulags, and freedom slides beneath the waves.

Posted by: The Pirate on September 30, 2005 10:20 PM
35. It comes down too decision making, not racism, classism, poverty, social status.

When you have some who makes a series of poor decisions.
Not getting a eduction.
Not getting your a** out of bed to go to work every day.
Getting or getting someone pregnant without a commitment (i.e. marriage).
Drinking
Drugs
Diet
Health choices
etc...

Decision making or lack thereof is taught by parents. So it is generational.

It is all related, you don't see very many 14 year girls who have a goal of being a doctor getting pregnant, it would get in the way of the goal.

Part of good decision making is learning from bad ones.

You sleep in and are late for work.
You get fired.
You go hungry.

The smart ones learn. Go work, don't get fired, won't go hungry.

The welfare state removes the negative consequences of bad decisions.

Sleep in and get fired. Go to the welfare office and get food stamps. Don't have to work and still get to eat, not a bad gig.

Someone who makes good decisions becomes self confident. A self confident person doesn't need a doctor, nurse, waitress or clerk to be culturally sensitive.

Some one is self confident above all doesn't need gov't to make decisions or provide the necessity of daily living.

Which is why leftist pinheads like bluedonkee hate the idea and all of it's ramifications.

Posted by: jcm on September 30, 2005 10:38 PM
36. Institutional bulls**t. Who's pulling the fast one on African Americans here? The same people who have been pulling the sheets with the cute little eyeholes in 'em over their own heads for the past 150 years- the Democrats.

And then these Ivy-League milquetoast white trash bastards have the unmitigated and unfathomable gall to accuse the white man (read, "Republicans") of keeping the black man down. What a bunch of slack-jawed, mouth-breathin', empty-headed, knuckle-draggin' grab-asstic sh*theels liberals are.

And why the hell have we not done something to shut these idiots up? Doesn't anyone have the testicular fortitude to stand up against these carpetbaggers? Anyone? Volunteers? Or is this just another town full of people who just talk and consider themselves brave just for the talking?

Anger without positive action is worthless. The minute enough of us stand up and shine the light on these cockroaches, they'll run. Who's got the matches? Anyone?

Posted by: ERNurse on September 30, 2005 10:48 PM
37. Thanks for that eloquent rant, ERNurse. Your vehemence is most....uh, striking.

Posted by: bartelby on September 30, 2005 11:06 PM
38. If memory serves me John Spellman was the last GOP governor of the Soviet of Washington. He served from 1980 to 1984. Since then, there's always been an ass in the Governor's mansion. That makes 21 years in power. So who really is to blame if minorities in Washington State have limited access to healthcare? The libs have controlled the legislature for most of that 21 years as well. Come to think of it, who was the last GOP mayor of Seattle or King County Ex.? No, wait. Here's an alien thought. Maybe the problem is because the dem's have created the problem! No. Must not think these thoughts! Must not think these thoughts. Help Will Robinson!

Posted by: Dr. K on September 30, 2005 11:06 PM
39. If memory serves me John Spellman was the last GOP governor of the Soviet of Washington. He served from 1980 to 1984. Since then, there's always been an ass in the Governor's mansion. That makes 21 years in power. So who really is to blame if minorities in Washington State have limited access to healthcare? The libs have controlled the legislature for most of that 21 years as well. Come to think of it, who was the last GOP mayor of Seattle or King County Ex.? No, wait. Here's an alien thought. Maybe the problem is because the dem's have created the problem! No. Must not think these thoughts! Must not think these thoughts. Help Will Robinson!

Posted by: Dr. K on September 30, 2005 11:06 PM
40. I wasn't going to drag out single payer health care since it goes beyond the "scope" of the thread. But everyone else brought it up. replies are not necessarily in contextual order..

Alphabet - use a few of those letters to say something useful.

Dr. K - Actually, part of the access problem we see in Washington at the state level stems from budget shortfalls in the early part of the decade aggrevated by the Federal tax cuts in 2001. That year Washington had a 2.6 billion dollar shortfall, that among other things, gutted the state's basic health plan. One of the better things Gov. Gregiore has done is restore the basic health coverage for 45,000 poor children who lost it in 2001.

jcm - Self reliance is great, but things happen to people all of the time that they have no control over. I'm all for people pulling themselves up by their bootstraps, but it can be a tough thing to do if you don't have any boots. Our government certainly can provide a basic safety net for people's most rudimentary needs as they get on their feet, it is basic human kindness. We can't guarantee equal outcome, but we must come as close as we can to providing equal opportunity and access.

ERnurse - Have you thought about anger management training? The most racist thing I've heard lately came from Gamblin' Bill Bennett, with his witty remark about aborting all of the black babies to drop the crime rate, what a genius. I don't suppose there's any chance he'll ever be anything but a republican.

Posted by: BlueDonkee on October 1, 2005 12:16 AM
41. BlueDonkee--there was a "shortfall" in the budget because of mismangement of funds, not lack of revenue. Most of the shortfall was from all the social engineering the politicians in Olympia wanted to finance because of "growing needs". It is the usual funny math of plenty of revenue but never enough for all the fuzzy wuzzy stuff the legislators want to add.

When you have a community that encourages teen pregnancies, scoffs at education, and glorifies bad lifestyle choices, another government program is not going to fix that. The government already spends billions of dollars providing access and opportunity. However throwing money at the problem doesn't make it go away.

The Seattle schools have one of the highest per student funding rates but some of the lowest achievement. There are programs that offer job training to get people into the workforce, but this is not for jobs that start at 6 figures. FareStart only has about a 40% completion rate for its students because showing up regularly, on time, and hygenically acceptable is too much effort for those who eventually drop out of the program.

There are ways to get low cost health care but you may not have as many choices as someone who has a job and insurance. If the care wasn't as good, the lawyers would be having a field day in court.


Bill Bennet used an unfortunate example,but what he said was taken out of context. Heaven forbid you actually look into the facts of a situation. You conveniently forgot to mention the part where he says that such a thing would be morally reprehensible.

Posted by: Burdabee on October 1, 2005 01:03 AM
42. It's amazing anything gets done when time and resources are wasted on nonsense like this.

Oh, but wait, actually nothing does get done.

Posted by: BananaLand (aka Iguana) on October 1, 2005 01:34 AM
43. BlueDonkee-

Bennett's comments were taken way out of context. Have you actually listened to the whole call he took? A caller was saying that we should get rid of abortion, because that would cure our Social Security problems, as all those aborted children would grow up to become productive citizens.

Bennett pointed out that the caller had no way of knowing that, and said that it was a lousy arguement and could go both ways. He pointed out to a part of the book "Freakenomics" that makes a correlation between an increase in abortion rates and a drop in crime rates. He then pointed oit that if you aborted all black babies, the crime rate would drop... it would be a ridiculas and morally reprehensible thing to do, but the crime rate would go down.

His point was never that we should abort black babies, but that the arguement that eliminating abortion as a cure to social ills was a weak arguement, as it could be argued that it also solved social ills. He was simply giving an absurd example to show what a lousy argument it was.

Posted by: Mike H on October 1, 2005 06:44 AM
44. Bottom line is that Bennet was telling a truth and that is counter to the race baiting and poverty pimping INDUSTRIES -- billions upon billions have been sent since LBJ and the G-D socialists' 1960's "war on poverty" all total CRAP which has resulted in perpetuation of poverty and subversion of all levels of the school systems and horrendous self-perpetrating socialist bureauCRAPies-- the only real progress on this front was the welfare reform which the SOB demoCRAPS try to claim but was really GOP idea

Posted by: Bill on October 1, 2005 09:46 AM
45. Go away Bartleboob (you POS) and take your tainted ass with you....

Posted by: alphabet soup on October 1, 2005 10:36 AM
46. Hmmm… I’ve seen this term, "health disparities" somewhere before. Yes, a series of articles carried by NewsWithViews.com:

SUSTAINABLE MEDICINE + SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT = DUTY TO DIE

by Dr. Madeleine Cosman, Ph.D., JD.

"Sustainable Development esteems the planet's intrinsically valuable environment. In that bio-diverse environment human beings are a dangerous, capricious burden. In the Agenda 21 worldview, people, especially rich intelligent people, consume too much and they make too many of themselves."

If you search through the article for "health disparities" we are pointed towards a United Nations creation called, "Sustainable Medicine":

Sustainable Development is a private property land grab. It is justified in the name of global equity, overcoming economic disparities, and assuring global integrity of the environment. Sustainable Medicine is a body grab. It is justified in the name of achieving global medical equity, overcoming health disparities, and assuring an enduring global environment free of too many people.
Sustainable Medicine makes decisions through visioning councils that determine what shall be done or not done to each body in its group in its native habitat. Sustainable Medicine experts do not refer to citizens in sovereign nations but to "humans" in their "settlements."

Eventually, if you search long enough, you’ll find yourself reading, "SOCIAL ASPECTS OF SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA". It can be found on the United Nations web site (under Agenda 21) here.

The section that I believe is directly related to your post can be found here:

Decision-Making: Strategies, Policies and Plans

The Health People 2000 Plan, developed by the US Department of Health and Human Services since UNCED, links national health objectives through three goals:

1. increase the span of healthy life for Americans,
2. reduce health disparities among Americans, and
3. achieve access to preventive services for all Americans.

I’m sure there’s more to this story than what we have here, but it’ll get you started if you're interested in digging deeper.

Posted by: Don Bangert on October 1, 2005 12:38 PM
47. Bluedonkee, you bring up Bill Bennett, but here's the truth---If a pregnant black woman were standing before Bennett, Hillary Clinton and Nancy Pelosi, and announced that she wants an abortion, only Bennett would be trying to talk here out of it. Pelosi and Clinton would be cheering her on, along with the radical NARAL crowd. WHO IS REALLY FOR BLACK INFANTS????? (hint, NOT the lefties)

Posted by: Misty on October 1, 2005 01:18 PM
48. Don B >>> good post -- just keep in mind two thoroughly proven truths of the false prophesy of the Marxist utopian SH-T >>> spread misery equally and eliminate anyone in the way (ie those who present 'difficulties' -- non productive -- certain ethnic groups -- the sick and helpless -- become a horrendous strain on those systems and have historically been liquidated) -- it has always amazed me how poor people actually think that the bolshevic demoCRAPS want to help them -- from the 1850's through the 1960's the democrats were the total embodiment of all the crap that they claim to be saving the poor blacks and other minorities from -- slavery -- the KKK - Jim Crow -- etc etc -- hell they still have and celebrate Bobbie Big Byrd - grand cyclops - one eyed bastard

the democrat party has become a totally unamerican organization completely infiltrated by the bolshevics -- pushing their rotten "communism light" known as socialism -- with the poverty pimps and other fellow travelers herding the poor and ill-educated like a pied piper over the cliffs and/or up to the kool ade vat -- after 40 years of the war on poverty -- some say - "poverty won" -- NO NO NO - the bolshevics were winning -- they have stupidified all levels of the education system and were gaining strength in their target constituents -- hopefully it has developed too slowly and the majority seems?? to be catching on - which has the lefties in a frenzied tailspin

Posted by: Bill on October 1, 2005 02:56 PM
49. bluedonkee,

If you're are not responsible, you are going give that responsibility to someone else. When some one is is responsible for you, you are not free. If you are not free, you are enslaved.

FREEDOM

I choose freedom. I want freedom for everyone else.

Freedom is scary. Freedom means you take responsibility.

You and other leftist what us to give up responsibility to the government.

NO!!! NO!!! and NO!!! again.

I choose freedom with all the risks inherent in that choice.

Posted by: JCM on October 1, 2005 05:21 PM
50. JCM -- Freedom is indeed scary, but it ain't so bad when you grow up with a silver spoon in your mouth.

Freedom is great when you can coast through life on a "gentleman's C," as has W., or when all your contracts are well insulated, as are Halliburton's, etc.

Unfortunately, most Americans haven't the "legacy" luxury of our slacker in chief.

Posted by: bartelby on October 1, 2005 10:10 PM
51. bartelby go ahead and cower in your socialist hole. It is apparent you are completely and utterly clueless, scared of letting go of the state teet.

You can't even enter into the discussion, you are left with take shots at GWB.

Pathetic.

Posted by: JCM on October 2, 2005 06:47 AM
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