October 03, 2005
Review For Riley

In today's Seattle Times, Kate Riley attacks Initiative 912, which will repeal the nine cent gas tax, and its supporters.  There is much wrong with the arguments she makes in the column, but I was most struck by this:

Just take the two counties hoping for taxpayer help to save their farming industry.  Between 1984 and 2003, Adams County received about $3.32 in transportation funds for every $1 its taxpayers contributed.  Grant received about $1.20.  And both benefited from a reliable state highway system carrying crops to market.

During that same period, King County received an extra 9 cents for every $1 contributed.  That's reasonable since it is the state's major economic center, attracting not only outbound goods but commuting workers from neighboring counties.

Update:  I received a reply from Kate Riley with some questions.  I've added it to the end of the post with my answers.

Why did this bug me?  Because I had explained, carefully, why the argument was wrong here.

I have seen this same argument for decades, often applied to rural states, rather than rural areas within states.  It has always struck as so obviously bogus that I wonder about those who make it.   Are they simpletons, or are they dishonest?

And then repeated the explanation, with more examples here.  Riley is using a ratio to make her argument, and when you look at the ratio carefully, you realize that neither the denominator nor the numerator in the ratio measures what Riley thinks it does.

First, the numerator in the ratio does not measure benefits to a particular county because federal and state roads are not used just by those who live in that county.  The denominator does not measure the transportation taxes paid by residents of a particular county for much the same reason.   So the ratio is meaningless.  And I am certain that some of the professionals at the state's Department of Transportation know that it is meaningless.  The ratio is a propaganda tool used by those who want to pit one group of voters against another.

Second, it is simply wrong even to try to apportion road benefits by county because even those who never use roads in a particular county often benefit from those roads.  If this point is still not obvious, imagine how high the food prices in Seattle would be if there were no roads from Seattle to rural areas.  Or how much manufactured goods would cost in rural areas under the same scenario.

Oddly, Riley seems to understand the second point — but does not realize that it invalidates the part of her argument that relies on the ratio.

After I had posted this, I sent an email to Kate Riley and received this gracious reply:

I see your point.  But do you see any other way to counter the idea that out-of-Puget Sound people say they're subsidizing Seattle like crazy.

I didn't even talk about school levy equalization money -- though I would have if I had more room.  Now there's an indisputable subsidy from more populous areas to smaller areas.

First, I oppose using the ratio because it is meaningless, and because it divides people politically.  I think that we should decide where to build highway improvements by using old-fashioned engineering studies of traffic and projected traffic.  And I think that a state administration that uses such standards will be more likely to get support from the entire state than one that uses that bogus ratio.  In short, I think that politicians should appeal to our best instincts, rather than try to divide us.

Second, I am not familiar with the details of the school levy equalization money, but I would guess that you could describe it more accurately as a subsidy from the wealthy areas to the less wealthy areas.  Whether that is the best way to aid our poorer students is something I will leave to others who know more about the subject.  But I must add that expenditures for higher education generally redistribute money from the less wealthy to the more wealthy, given our state's reliance on the sales tax, the kinds of students who attend the universities, and the locations of our public universities.

But I think that this kind of discussion misses the central cause of the underlying dissatisfaction in our rural areas.  When I was growing up in Washington state many years ago, the local school districts received much less aid, but had much more control of their own schools.  I think many rural areas would be happy to trade some of that aid for more local control.  But we all know that can't happen while the WEA has the power to block reforms.  And I know that many in rural areas would be happy to give up other kinds of aid in return for a relaxation of the growth management rules.  But we all know that can't happen given the power of the environmentalists.

In short, I think those in rural areas will be unhappy — no matter how money is distributed — as long as they can not control their own affairs.  To make those in rural areas happy (or at least less unhappy), we need some decentralization of power.  That could happen by returning power to local governments, or by privatization, or both.  The argument is more over power than money, and we need to understand that if we want to settle it.

(Making those in rural areas happy isn't the only reason I favor some decentralization.   There are good reasons to think that more local control and some privatization would improve outcomes — on the whole.  But that's such a large subject that I must leave it for another time and another post, or perhaps a series of posts.)

Posted by Jim Miller at October 03, 2005 05:42 PM | Email This
Comments
1. Wow, she's been posting here...I recognize this drivel. Seattleites really do think Seattle is Rome.

Posted by: South County on October 3, 2005 06:46 PM
2. Riley also forgot to mention that Adams county (who she protrays to be making out like a bandit) only has 16,596 residents and they will recieve the monstrous windfall of $20,413.00. That's about 1/3 of what it costs to buy a stoplight.

Posted by: Bobk on October 3, 2005 07:22 PM
3. The left are masters at creating a specific *perception* out of spin....

A little misuse of ratio's in her argument goes a long way to create the point she's trying to sell....even if her point is based on error...

The end always justifies the means with the left........Always.

Posted by: Deborah on October 3, 2005 07:50 PM
4. Who does this nut think is eating the food they are able to put on the hiway system? Or are these farmers being parasitic? Left is so reasonable.
Cindy

Posted by: cindy on October 3, 2005 08:21 PM
5. What quantifies "help"...with their farming industry? Most farmers in E Wa would love for the state government and liberal do-gooders to get the hell out of the way. Her definition of what "help" is sorely mistaken. Plus all the comments that came before mine.

Posted by: political junkie on October 3, 2005 09:54 PM
6. They keep using the arguments such as the Adams County example on all the counties that get more dollars than they pay out. They did the same thing in our county, one of our Dem Reps tried to say how we get more than we give out.

Only problem is that when it comes to this 9.5 cents our poor county loses $60 million in tax revenue vs. how much we gain from it in just the next 8 years. Seems all the money is being sent to that rich county in Puget Sound.

Those lefties argue up and down for progressive taxes, but when it comes to this gas tax, they are pushing for something worse than regressive.

Posted by: Doug on October 3, 2005 10:48 PM
7. The rest of the State should have subsidized transportation. The major reason is the Growth Managetment Act which has stiffled rural economies. As far as I'm concerned if the Seattle LEFTIST PINHEADS wish to control the entire State....they should pay for it!!
And they are paying....with perpetual gridlock.
IF they repeal GMA as it applies to all rural counties, then it's a different story. Not that all these rural counties are going to see a business boom....but it does give them a chance to contribute more.

Posted by: Mr. Cynical on October 4, 2005 04:49 AM
8. Mr. Cynical, when you mentioned 'subsidized transportation' for the whole state, I had to chuckle because my first thought was that you were suggesting light rail for all of the state.

Posted by: swatter on October 4, 2005 07:29 AM
9. So...Adams County gets a little state highway money (this year), what about all the other rural counties? With 39 counties in Washington about 24 must be rural, many of them get very little (if any?) state road money.

It's just a shell game to justify Puget Sound region guzzling the lion's share of DOT funding. Eastern Washatonians know this and resent it. That is why none of them will vote to keep the gas tax, watch in November.

Posted by: dl on October 4, 2005 08:47 AM
10. When I90 was going on, all the State money went to Seattle/Bellevue and the rest of us suffered while the rest of the roads didn't get upgraded.

I hope that fiasco was added into the program.

Posted by: swatter on October 4, 2005 08:54 AM
11. swatter - monorail! monorail for the whole state!

Posted by: Hindu on October 4, 2005 09:35 AM
12. Consider the amount of $ the elites throw at this and it begins to stink to high heaven!!

Posted by: Laurie on October 5, 2005 07:17 AM
13. Kate Riley says to Jim,

"I see your point. But do you see any other way to counter
the idea
that out-of-Puget Sound people say they're subsidizing Seattle like crazy."

Hey there Kate, how about simply telling the truth?
Maybe then we might be able to get on with actually addressing the REAL PROBLEMS!!

Liberals like this never cease to amuse me.

Posted by: Amused by liberal pravarications on October 5, 2005 11:19 AM
14. Kate was on Carlson's show yesterday. They played patty-cake without ever actually making contact (either in the literal sense, or in the metaphorical idea of a meeting of the minds.

I know John (or was it Kirby, subbing for John, who was subbing for Brian, who was subbing for Mike, who was...) wanted to take Kate to task over her supposition that somehow the hosts at KVI were perpetuating some sort of fraud on I-912 instead of Keep Washington Rolling (who is lying about the implications of an I-912 victory).

All in all, it was quite pleasant and quite non-consequential, and you could tell that Kate has no intention toward changing her opinion no matter what the facts may show.

How odd to be a journalist with such a stunted sense of curiosity

Posted by: alphabet soup on October 6, 2005 10:24 AM
15. My opposition to the gas tax just passed, is the way it was passed. Emergency my posterior. No 60%, no tax increase. Emergency need, yes but must be proven. Vote yes on I-912.
Doc

Posted by: FMF Doc on October 7, 2005 09:55 AM
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