From the Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary:
Main Entry: sat·ireA few people posted comments or sent private e-mails expressing confusion or offense at my Tuesday night post "Seattle's Judenrein City Council". It was satire. To those who were offended by my post, let me ask what offended you more -- that Seattle's City Council is using race as the primary criteria for filling a vacancy; or that a private citizen is using over-the-top satire to call them on it? If it's the latter, then I doubt you'll ever agree with very much of what I write here. If it's the former, did you also e-mail the City Council to express your offense at their race-based politics? If not, you may contact them here.
Pronunciation: 'sa-"tIr
Function: noun
1 : a literary work holding up human vices and follies to ridicule or scorn
2 : trenchant wit, irony, or sarcasm used to expose and discredit vice or folly
3: this blog entry
I think we all understand what satire is. I also think you were creative with this piece. There was obvious effort on your part to tell a story you thought was important.
My problem is the use of anti-Semitism as your vehicle. For generations this has beed a problem. It has been drilled into us, over and over, NEVER AGAIN! To suggest, even jestfully that City Council is Nazi or anti-Semitic is simply uncalled for.
When I see a piece written by a Jew, making light of the horrors of Germany and World WarII, I cringe.
The piece was in poor taste. You meant to evoke thought about an issue, but your piece has overshadowed your subject matter and become the story. Thats how you should judge the piece.
I signed my real name. I feel strongly enough not to hide behind a screen name.
Posted by: Howard Grossman on January 19, 2006 01:56 AMSelective outrage bores me.
Posted by: South County on January 19, 2006 04:36 AMAnti-Semitism is dead and gone? On what planet have you resided the past two generations? The so called "Palistinians" (most of whose ancestry resided in other parts of the Mediterranean), as well as the majority of the Arab world, has sworn to drive Israel into the sea! Old Europe reviles the Jews and would rather they be anywhere but in their respective countries. In America, liberals openly support the "Palistinian" cause and questions Israel's right to exist on their God-given postage stamp of a nation.
Throughout the centuries Jewish people have exibited the resourcefulness and work ethic to lift themselves above their lazy and backward middle-eastern brethern. They purchased much of the land they possess from absentee Eqyptian and Ottoman Turkish owners during the 19th century and have worked to make it bloom and prosper, all without the wealth of oil. They have repeatedly defended their land from envious and corrupt neighbors. Yet much of Europe and many in this country resent the only true middle-eastern democracy and demand Israel give their land to the corrupt and violent despots who already own in excess of 99% of the region.
Only fools and those educated and indoctrinated by the like of Evergreen State College could possibly believe that anit-Semitism is dead and gone.
Posted by: Saltherring on January 19, 2006 05:37 AM
I really don't see where Howard Grossman said that. "Never Again" is a vow of eternal vigilance, not an observation of fact.
Posted by: rmc on January 19, 2006 06:36 AMHoward appeared to be insinuating that because it has "been drilled into us, over and over, NEVER AGAIN", that anti-Semitism doesn not exist. Perhaps I read Howard, wrong, but Stefan has every right to, even in satire, make his case that the Seattle City Council's "racial diversity" campaign is, in itself, racist and exclusive.
Posted by: Saltherring on January 19, 2006 06:48 AMThey're more concerned with Sister Cities in Cuba, North Korea, and Venezuela (notice a trend?), making statements on nuclear weapons, skin color, and bedroom habits than actual governance.
What's not to laugh at.
Posted by: JCM on January 19, 2006 07:24 AMWe just haven't seen that side of it with "the shark". I always have thought the shark was a serious (too serious) writer. The hammering (pun intended) he takes would leave most of us a mess.
Poking a little fun at the Democrats- Bush is Hitler- which I despised, is a little payback.
So, while I like "the shark" venturing into humor/satire, I couldn't help but notice the Bush is Hitler analogy of the Democrats, so I was a little taken aback.
It wasn't like he was ridiculing a Democrat who just had a heart attack or some serious injury, which I still feels crosses the line.
Posted by: swatter on January 19, 2006 07:47 AMWith such an emphasis placed on state classified minority status as a selection criteria, the comparison to the Germans is accurate, at the same time pointing out the absurdity of it all.
When state-classifications of people becomes the criteria for selecting candidates for anything we are in big trouble.
What ever happened to competence or "being judged on ones character"?
Posted by: fred on January 19, 2006 09:37 AMLike your post above, Seattle elitists don't want anyone's feelings to get hurt. At least that is on the surface of what people like Kohl-Welles want to prevent.
Dig a little deeper though.
Posted by: BananaLand (aka Iguana) on January 19, 2006 10:18 AMMy point, perhaps misunderstood, is that anti-Semitism is alive and well, much to our disgrace. RMC is correct about my use of "Never Again". I meant it as eternal vigilance. A vow that never again will Jews die a docile death in the face of annihilation.
My outrage is not selective. Mel Brooks comedy made absolute fun of the German dictator, it did not characterize a living person or group as being like Nazi's, even in satire. I suggest you watch the movie again.
Posted by: Howard Grossman on January 19, 2006 10:30 AMI am suggesting that you cheapened an otherwise compelling piece of reporting by bringing in the Nazi twist. I am not shocked or apalled that you did so, but I think you did not help your cause by doing it.
Feel free to disagree with me. But please do move on. If you are concerned about it enough to keep bringing it up, perhaps it would be simpler to just admit that, all things considered, it wasn't the brightest post you have made. But please do move on.
Keep up the almost uniformly good work!
Posted by: huckleberry on January 19, 2006 10:46 AMI submit that pieces like the one that Stefan wrote are part of the process of eternal vigilance.
Problems begin when we make certain subjects off-limits, or only allowed when the author is the "correct" gender or ethnicity.
Free speech is, and must be, speech that is free of limits. When limits are applied, dark thoughts that would otherwise have been dispelled in the sunlight of free and vigorous discourse are left to fester and multiply like mold in a cellar.
Nor do I believe that Stefan's ethnicity should bear on the acceptability of the piece. If he were a goy, as am I, would that change anything?
Posted by: ewaggin on January 19, 2006 12:37 PMIt's sad that a reliable blog with great information is turning into a satire site. There are enough satire sites and not enough sites actually to get stuff done.
SoundPolitics has political power. Really, it does. And if you want to become a stupid satire site then I guess I'm out of here.
Faithful Reader
Posted by: Jeremy on January 19, 2006 01:21 PMIt's sad that a reliable blog with great information is turning into a satire site. There are enough satire sites and not enough sites actually to get stuff done.
SoundPolitics has political power. Really, it does. And if you want to become a stupid satire site then I guess I'm out of here.
Faithful Reader
Posted by: Jeremy on January 19, 2006 01:21 PM
"Jeremy" -- If you haven't noticed, or maybe you have, I've always included a bit of satire with my other commentary. (Newspapers do that too, see: Horsey, David. I can't draw, so I occasionally write satire)
I don't expect every reader to like every piece that I write. You're free to stop reading at any time.
BTW, Did you complain to the Seattle City Council about their racist policy for filling the vacancy, or is my satire that you didn't like the one thing you're most outraged about this week?
Posted by: Stefan Sharkansky on January 19, 2006 01:45 PMBye bye!!
Posted by: Amused by self rightous liberals on January 19, 2006 01:49 PMBye bye.
Posted by: Amused by liberals on January 19, 2006 02:40 PMI would like to think that Conservatives, or at least those who post regularly on Conservative web sites, unlike Liberals, have a sense of humor. But alas, in your case I guess I'm wrong. Direct your anger at the racists in Seattle city government as there are plenty of examples to point at. Remember Cindi Laws accused the "Jews" of torpedoing the Green Line. I must have missed your anger back then.
Posted by: swassociates on January 19, 2006 04:09 PMThat's FUNNY stuff!
But the best of them are the situational comics....like algore, and howeird scream. You know what I mean....everybody loves a KLOWN!
Posted by: alphabet soup on January 19, 2006 06:29 PM"As you can possibly see, I have an injury myself — not here at the hospital, but in combat with a cedar. I eventually won. The cedar gave me a little scratch. As a matter of fact, the Colonel asked if I needed first aid when she first saw me. I was able to avoid any major surgical operations here, but thanks for your compassion, Colonel." —George W. Bush, after visiting with wounded veterans from the Amputee Care Center of Brooke Army Medical Center, San Antonio, Texas, Jan. 1, 2006
Posted by: My Left Foot on January 19, 2006 10:25 PMDidja find yourself some clean panties to wear?
Glad to see you back. Thank you for the quote. It is more human and more ingratiating than anything you have ever offered.
You keep your raving nutters like algore and screamer, I'll take Dubya any day!
Posted by: alphabet soup on January 20, 2006 10:09 AMCheck out the desperation. Bush made a light hearted and self deprecating joke to lighten the mood of a tragic circumstance. Even if this rendering is verbatim (doubtful), only a hate filled partisan hack could insinuate something invidious or dishonest to this anecdote. The only offensive thing that stands out in this is the lame attempt to suggest offensiveness. This half assed nonsense is exemplary of a frightened dim-witted hysterical liberal grasping for anything he can find to cast aspersions on his superiors.
Hoof . . . nice job as always.
Posted by: Amused by liberal pathology on January 20, 2006 11:31 AMNo wonder he's so outta sorts.....
Posted by: alphabet soup on January 20, 2006 12:47 PM"[I]t's a myth to think I don't know what's going on. It's a myth to think that I'm not aware that there's opinions that don't agree with mine, because I'm fully aware of that." —George W. Bush, Philadelphia, Pa., Dec. 12, 2005.
and one more for fun:
"Wow! Brazil is big." —George W. Bush, after being shown a map of Brazil by Brazilian president Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva, Brasilia, Brazil, Nov. 6, 2005.
Posted by: My Left Foot on January 20, 2006 03:27 PMAre you going out of your way to show yourself to be a putz?!
Posted by: alphabet soup on January 20, 2006 08:26 PM