February 02, 2006
Statewide Voter Database released

The statewide voter database has been released

An initial check of a statewide voter-registration database found at least 5,224 dead people registered to vote in Washington and more than 3,000 voters registered twice.

So far, Secretary of State Sam Reed's office hasn't found anyone who voted illegally. But it's still investigating an additional 35,000 names that a computer flagged as suspicious.

Interesting. Even without all the data that the SoS has, I've managed to find people who illegally voted twice under duplicate registrations, including some who were still registered twice as of December. I should receive my own copy of the statewide database any day now. I'm also going to ask for a list of the voters whose registrations were removed.

Posted by Stefan Sharkansky at February 02, 2006 10:28 AM | Email This
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1. Stefan? Great White
Illegal Voters? Chum
Go get 'em Shark!

Posted by: Obi-Wan on February 2, 2006 10:36 AM
2. Stefan

The work you have done in spotlighting the many problems in the maintainence of voter bases by King County is truly amazing given the lack of resource you suffer. I thank you.

Perhaps the maintainence of voting bases should be done by the private sector which is insulated from the corruption of the political sector. Of course the private sector, unlike the political sector, will not be immune from prosecution.

Given that the SOS has proclaimed no illegal votes (voters) have been discovered, one may then assume that they didn't look in very hard. Obviously the charade continues.

Keep the spotlight shining. Thank you.

Posted by: snuffy on February 2, 2006 11:00 AM
3. Sheesh--
I hope I never pi$$ you off!
Seriously, there is no way this progress would have been made without your vigilance.
Aren't there any Medal of Honor's we can nominate you for Stefan??
A system without adequate checks and balances is doomed to a cesspool of corruption.
Perhaps we can nominate Stefan for a few of the gazillion Environmental Awards for his work in Cleaning about the King County Election Toxic Waste Dump!

Posted by: Mr. Cynical on February 2, 2006 11:09 AM
4. Sheesh--
I hope I never pi$$ you off!
Seriously, there is no way this progress would have been made without your vigilance.
Aren't there any Medal of Honor's we can nominate you for Stefan??
A system without adequate checks and balances is doomed to a cesspool of corruption.
Perhaps we can nominate Stefan for a few of the gazillion Environmental Awards for his work in Cleaning up the King County Election Toxic Waste Dump!

Posted by: Mr. Cynical on February 2, 2006 11:09 AM
5. Sheesh--
I hope I never pi$$ you off!
Seriously, there is no way this progress would have been made without your vigilance.
Aren't there any Medal of Honor's we can nominate you for Stefan??
A system without adequate checks and balances is doomed to a cesspool of corruption.
Perhaps we can nominate Stefan for a few of the gazillion Environmental Awards for his work in Cleaning up the King County Election Toxic Waste Dump!

Posted by: Mr. Cynical on February 2, 2006 11:09 AM
6. Does the new data base take into account the little people who live in small mailbox rentals?
What about the old folk in nursing homes that cast their votes courtesy of the caregivers.
What about Ron Sim's houseguests.

Having one data base does not result in integrity. It only provides a single source of names and addresses. And to what extent do canvassers in their infinite wisdom over-rule the SOS data base when push comes to shove.

Posted by: Snuffy on February 2, 2006 11:12 AM
7. Because the "little people" are part of a minority class (they are really small) they get two votes in order to make things fair.

Posted by: jaybo on February 2, 2006 11:26 AM
8. The current registration form requires a driver license number or part of a social security number, required by HAVA.

Does the new database use that information for matching? If not, why not?

Does anyone know whether this HAVA requirement is retroactive to registrations done, say 20 years ago (when I last registered at my current address)?

Posted by: SouthernRoots on February 2, 2006 11:30 AM
9. Stefan for president!

Posted by: Thanks for keeping those guys honest on February 2, 2006 11:35 AM
10. Why am I not surprised?

Regarding Snuffy's question, I do not think the new database takes into account individuals registered at US Post Office and private mail boxes. At this point I think the SOS is only looking for deceased registers and duplicate registers.

Based on the results of the challenged voters in the Nov-2005 Election, improperly registered at Federal and private mailboxes, business addresses, etc are not a priority in King County at this time. Snohomish County does not feel that improperly registered individuals are a priority either

Posted by: Green Lake Mark on February 2, 2006 11:37 AM
11. The Olympian has different numbers to include 108 that voted in Nov but are listed as dead now and 37,000 being investigated.

Posted by: sgmmac on February 2, 2006 11:38 AM
12. Y'all know that the FINAL step after the database warriors finish their battle is the most time-consuming effort of all.
What's that you say???
Going door to door in certain Precindts to validate that the Registered Voter actually lives where he/she or he-she or a she-he says they reside. Folks to take it upon themselves to physically validate these registered voters will be called Vigilantees or much worse. I can think of a couple Precindts that ought to be Physically Validated....including the one where "homeless" register.
It will also be interesting to comparing the Washington database to other States wherever possible. If only every Registered Voter had to have a Social Security Number....which brings to mind "How many people do you know who DON'T have SS#'s????" "Why don't they??" How do you file a Federal Income Tax Return without a Social Security #??"
It's amazing to me that SS #'s are not required. It would allow for simple comparisons between states for duplicate registrations.
QUESTION OF THE MILLENIUM????

How many Registered Voters in Washington DO NOT have Social Security numbers???

Posted by: Mr. Cynical on February 2, 2006 12:08 PM
13. Mr Cynical says:

QUESTION OF THE MILLENIUM????

How many Registered Voters in Washington DO NOT have Social Security numbers???

Realy, the only question is (and always was) which voters registered to vote in Washington State precincts do not actually live in those precincts?

Yes, vigilance on the part of community activists will be required to take the statewide voter registration database and validate it. Yes, people engaged in that process will be vilified.

Where do I sign up?

Posted by: huckleberry on February 2, 2006 12:35 PM
14. What about those registered voters that have a misspelled name, and get multiple ballots at the same address. I have come across some that voted more than once. Have you run this list with the address first to compare names?

Posted by: John on February 2, 2006 01:21 PM
15. YOu people seriously need to get over this. Gregoire won...MOVE ON! Remember that Bush slogan you right wing hypocrites (and apprently, from a large chunk of replieson this post, bigots) used to tout when Bush used the supreme court to steal the '00 election? Well, time to eat your own words.

I know you guys dont get out of your 12x12 cabin very often, and when you do its either print and send your little aryan nations hate mailing listings, or buy more meth ingredients, but theres a saying back in civilization a lot of us Normal people use..."What goes around, comes around".

Posted by: loonster on February 2, 2006 02:25 PM
16. loonster, you seem to forget that Algore never even won a single count. That's what made the left sound so looney.

You also seem to forget that same loons claim there was somehow a problem with a 100,000 vote margin of victory in OH while feeling oh so comfortable with a 129-vote margin here with known dead and double voters and known uncounted ballots heavy on the Rossi side, and hundreds of illegal ballots cast. (felons, etc.) Also illegal fatal pends.

Posted by: Misty on February 2, 2006 03:57 PM
17. New Dem leader Pelz, according to the Seattle Times article:
"I think what's been troubling about this whole experience is that the Republicans have been trying to challenge our entire democracy by casting doubt on our entire system," he said.

I guess it would be troubling to the likes of Pelz to have people persist in picking up the rocks and looking to see what's under them.

If the election system doesn't produce valid results, the democratic republic is indeed in trouble -- but not because of the investigation of irregularities. The trouble comes from the irregularities themselves -- and the people who defend them.

Posted by: Micajah on February 2, 2006 05:36 PM
18. LOONSTER
I THINK YOU WILL FIND THAT GORE IS THE ONE WHO WENT TO COURT YOU NEED TO GET THE FACTS STRAIGHT OH THAT RIGHT FACTS DONT MATTER FOR YOU LEFTIES

Posted by: WO on February 2, 2006 06:58 PM
19. Dwight Pelz just showed by his statement that he is defending the indefensible. He,Loonster and the rest of the lefties try hand to not let the facts get in the way and blather on.

I have no doubt that Rossi should rightfully be our Governor, but thanks in large to the way the system is structured in this state - it was not to be. The Repubs had a chance, but blew it in the courtroom - another story for another time. We on the opposing side, wearing the white hats will get by, thanks to Stefan and some accountibility in the system for a change.

Posted by: KS on February 2, 2006 07:05 PM
20. try hard to not let the facts get in the way.

Posted by: KS on February 2, 2006 07:06 PM
21. "So far, Secretary of State Sam Reed's office hasn't found anyone who voted illegally"

This needs to be independantly investigated. Sam Reeds office cannot make this vague statement without the facts.
We need to know:
1. What are the registration dates for the dead voters - were there any recent registrations or address changes? Did any vote after their deceased date?
2. What were the dates of registration for the duplicate voters? Were there any recent re-registrations or address changes? When did they vote last and are they listed in various counties as voting?
3. What makes the 35,000 flagged registrations suspicious?
4. How do they verify the many voter registrations with residence addresses located at county office buildings and mailing addresses in other countries?

Posted by: Deborah on February 2, 2006 07:57 PM
22. Loonster,
Bush used the supreme court to steal the '00 election? What goes around comes around? So you're admitting that on the very faulty, trumped up charge that Bush stole the election you democrats operate on the premise that you have license to steal elections? Just more proof that democrats don't believe in democracy.

Posted by: Kevin on February 3, 2006 12:53 PM
23. Misty - Misty, there reason there are re-counts is to be sure of who got better votes. 42 states (may not be the actual number, going off recent info, not at time of 00 elections) have such measures in their statutes that say if an election is too close, re-counts are initiated for the sake of surety. Surely, in a nation of 280 million people, this makes very logical sense.

Kevin - The supreme court case Bush v. Gore explains it all. Read up on it, find out which justices even accepted the case (which would NEVER be accepted otherwise, and changed precendent in a dangerous way), and read up on the majority opinion. It makes no sense whatsoever when you consider the fact that the reasoning is in opposition to several previous decisions made by the affirming justices.

Posted by: loonster on February 4, 2006 12:47 PM
24. With 20 million illegal aliens in our nation, nearly 1/2 million right here in Wasington State, and even more legal aliens who are not naturalized citizens -- none of who are ENTITLED to register & vote -- why isn't this checked by the database, and what will it take to get that added to the list? Sam Reed says there isn't ONE non-citizen registered or voting illegally. If the database does not screen for such, how can he make the case with a straight face, other then he is a practiced and accomplished story teller?

Posted by: martin ringhofer on February 5, 2006 10:21 AM
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