February 12, 2006
It is a clash of civilizations and the Seattle Times is ducking for cover

In today's column, Seattle Times Executive Editor Mike Fancher fails to give a credible explanation why his paper won't publish the Danish Muhammad cartoons, except to say: "Showing cartoons isn't worth hurt to readers"

We haven't published the cartoons because we believe they would needlessly and deeply offend a portion of our readers.
He manages to ignore the fact that his paper (and every paper) inevitably offends somebody or other, no matter what it publishes. The real question is why does the Times seek to avoid offending people over this particular issue, and Fancher provides no insight. Protestations to the contrary notwithstanding, the conclusion is that Times has capitulated to self-censorship to avoid violations of Shari'a law. If the Times continues to muzzle itself in compliance with Muslim dictates, it will continue to decrease in relevance as a source of information in the years ahead --

Put the Times cravenness in the context of Indonesian President Yudhoyono's counsel to the international media:

Reprinting the cartoons in order to make a point about free speech is an act of senseless brinkmanship. It is also a disservice to democracy. It sends a conflicting message to the Muslim community: that in a democracy, it is permissible to offend Islam.
I always thought that it was permissible to offend Islam in a democracy, but apparently the Times agrees with Yudhoyono. And as this commentator puts it in the German Der Spiegel:
The heartfelt statements by western politicians that nobody wants a clash of civilizations don't do much good any more. Because that is exactly what the Islamists want. And what happens when the western and Islamic worlds are in conflict over more than a few silly cartoons from Denmark?
Good question. All I know is that I won't be looking to the Seattle Times as a credible source of information about that conflict.

Posted by Stefan Sharkansky at February 12, 2006 10:49 AM | Email This
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1. Fancher stood up to the Mafia when he was city editor of the Kansas City Star, he should be able to stand up to those who wish to impose Sharia on the United States.

http://crimemagazine.com/river.htm

Posted by: Legast on February 12, 2006 11:07 AM
2. I found this position interesting:

"Why would a reader expect to be able to make a ruling on whether the cartoons are offensive if he or she is not Muslim?" asked David Birdwell, Times nation / world editor. "That's the whole point of the story: Muslims see them as blasphemous; others don't."

Will the Times add an Imam as an editor to review all future content before publication? I am sure that the Commission for the Promotion of Virtue and Prevention of Vice in Saudi Arabia could supply the Times with such an official.

Freedom of the press is starting to look like the Democrat Fillibuster. Something that exists as long as it is not used. I wonder what sort of "nuclear option" will be used when freedom of the press is exercised.

Posted by: rw on February 12, 2006 11:28 AM
3. Dear Mr. Fancher,

I don't agree with your claim that "the issue for Muslims isn't just how he (Mohammed) is portrayed, but that he is portrayed at all".

In so claiming, you presume to speak for all Muslims. Were the claim true, there would not be such a long history of graphic portrayals of Mohammed, including the one on a wall of the U.S. Supreme Court building. In fact, you are acting as a voice for extremists, such as the ones who blew up the Bamiyan Buddhas in Afghanistan to unanimous press condemnation.

Omitted from the Times coverage are several verifiable items. One is the publication in the Egyptian paper Al Faqr of all twelve of the Danish cartoons on October 17th last. No riots ensued.

Another is the fact that mounting the riots required four months of diligent preparation and incitement by the Danish imam Achmed Abu Laban, frustrated at first precisely because he couldn't incite any in Denmark itself. His dossier in support of this turbulence included three gross cartoons that had not appeared in Denmark.

In short, the riots are political, not religious. They're organized in top-down style by extremists, not at all spontaneous outbursts by 'average' Muslims. In Iran, Syria and Lebanon at least they were sanctioned by local governments - who have the means and will to quickly suppress violent street gatherings.

In the context of political riots, there is a compelling reason to publish the 12 Danish cartoons, and also the three super-inciters for comparison. That is, to frame the riots in context - because most of the 12 images are wholly innocuous, as can be seen at a glance. In not furnishing this context - particularly the total lack of violent citizen objection to the Egyptian publication of the cartoons - the Seattle Times is not well informing the public, and is essentially endorsing the most extreme factions of Islam as spokesmen for the whole of the religion.

Posted by: Hank Bradley on February 12, 2006 12:23 PM
4. Is it news the whole "controversy" has been manipulated and fomented?

Is it news that forged cartoons were used to whip up the frenzy?

Is it news that the MSM has capitulated to radical Islam?

Is it news that is and idiot?

Yes on the first three, no on the last one.

Posted by: JCM on February 12, 2006 12:24 PM
5. Corrected post:

Is it news the whole "controversy" has been manipulated and fomented?

Is it news that forged cartoons were used to whip up the frenzy?

Is it news that the MSM has capitulated to radical Islam?

Is it news that Fancher is and idiot?

Yes on the first three, no on the last one.

Posted by: JCM on February 12, 2006 12:25 PM
6. But Christ in Urine and a dung-covered Virgin Mary is to be celebrated as avant garde and pushing the envelope.

SHEEEEESH!!!

Posted by: oswald czolgosz on February 12, 2006 12:25 PM
7. Since when is Fancher concerned about causing "hurt to readers"?? Is this some new revelation for Mike? Perhaps Allah spoke to Mike when Mike was trapped in gridlock out on the desert know as I-5! Mike has approved many cartoons and Editorials that caused pain to people in the past. Allah has apparently enlighted Mike Fancher.
Now, the question is, when will Mike Fancher once again move the bar and start offending people again???? 2 days? Perhaps 3 days???

Once we see Mike Fancher weaving his way through gridlock on 2-humped camel with a towel on his head and 72 virgins in tow, we'll know his insanity is terminal.

Posted by: Mr. Cynical on February 12, 2006 12:29 PM
8. Fancher is simply afraid of getting his head chopped off...no more/no less. Principles get a little weak-kneed when self-preservation is a variable.

Posted by: Danny on February 12, 2006 12:46 PM
9. "Reprinting the cartoons in order to make a point about free speech is an act of senseless brinkmanship. It is also a disservice to democracy. It sends a conflicting message to the Muslim community: that in a democracy, it is permissible to offend Islam."

Under a system of government that protects free speech, it is always permissible to offen n n n n n d anyone as long as there is no credible threat to life, liberty or property.

Freedom requires learning to deal with being offended. No one has a right to not be offended, but we do have a right not to be threatened. Free speech guarantees that someone will be offended.

GET OVER IT!

I am offended because they won't publish the cartoons. The very act of appeasing the thugs who are rioting offends others.

Furthermore, while seeming to protect a non-right against being offended, we are actually violating a real right not to be threatened!!

So far, the thugs are winning.

Posted by: TH on February 12, 2006 12:47 PM
10. What a candy apple news paper :)

Posted by: dcat on February 12, 2006 01:15 PM
11. Oh and just an FYI yes I posted the cartoons at my site and the Iraq friends are still speaking to me!

Congratulations to the lame stream media once again!!!

The educated people know how to move on just like the rest of us. People will always make mockery of something or another. Nothing new folks so get on with it and the extremist are the ones having a problem and I say tough crissy!

Posted by: dcat on February 12, 2006 01:21 PM
12. The Times is willing to offend the people that 'need' offending, according to their world view..

Posted by: South County on February 12, 2006 01:50 PM
13. ...it will continue to decrease in relevance as a source of information in the years ahead --

Stefan, the Seattle Slimes ceased being relevant years ago.

The Slimes has been offending Christians and conservatives for a long time. If all it took was a few threats too get them to oblige...

...well I am more than willing....

Posted by: JCM on February 12, 2006 01:58 PM
14. CNN's Double Standard from newsfly.org (http://newsfly.org/doublestandard.htm) where Bill Bennett slams CNN for their double standard while being intervied by Wolf Blitzer live on CNN - video included.

Posted by: GMT on February 12, 2006 03:08 PM
15. In his article on page A-2 Fancher has written,
"'In the same vein, this is a family newspaper, and we want to encourage parents to read it with their children, not to have to hide it from them.'"
His following argument about "images" aside, do any readers here know any parents that read the repeated articles about a man who died from having sex with farm animals with their children? Don't you imagine some parents chose to "hide" these particular articles from their children?

Posted by: Susan on February 12, 2006 03:21 PM
16. Susan--
Fancher is so arrogant he actually believes their are people out there PINHEADED enough to believe his fantasy.
The following is from The Society of Professional Journalists Code of Ethics:

Preamble
Members of the Society of Professional Journalists believe that public enlightenment is the forerunner of justice and the foundation of democracy. The duty of the journalist is to further those ends by seeking truth and providing a fair and comprehensive account of events and issues. Conscientious journalists from all media and specialties strive to serve the public with thoroughness and honesty. Professional integrity is the cornerstone of a journalist's credibility. Members of the Society share a dedication to ethical behavior and adopt this code to declare the Society's principles and standards of practice.

Seek Truth and Report It:
Journalists should be honest, fair and courageous in gathering, reporting and interpreting information.

Mike seems to have lost his "courage" testicles!
Mike "Castrati" Fancher---
The Journalist with NO BALLS!

Posted by: Mr. Cynical on February 12, 2006 03:49 PM
17. Fancher,

You have chosen to place religious sensitivity (backed up by the threat of force) over your original mandate of gathering and relaying news. In the pubic weal Muslims are citizens before they are Muslims; by condescending to their religious sensibilities you have told them that yes, we see you as Muslims first, and citizens second; you have denied them an important civics lesson: free speech, baby, it's 2006, roll with the punches. Good luck learning to walk on eggshells.

Implicit in your decision not to publish the Danish cartoons is the assumption that Muslims are poised to go crazy on you. How nice of you to decide that beforehand for everybody. Christians and Jews and Buddhists don't bomb and riot and burn when misrepresentations of their faiths are run through your pages. Now we know what the zealots of each religion need to do to keep those misrepresentations out of your pages. Now we all know what buys your respect

I you had written "we didn't print those cartoons because we were afraid of getting killed," I could at least honor you for your honesty. But you hid behind sensitivity, respect, etc. things that are not in your bailwick; or they weren't before. I guess it's just you and Emily Post from here on out.

So congrats, you're a coward, a sensitive and respectful one, but a coward nonetheless. May your shame follow you to the end of your days and into eternity.

Posted by: Doug Andersn on February 12, 2006 03:50 PM
18. In the case of highly offensive photographs and images, we use them only in a case where a written description would not suffice for readers' understanding of an important story.
They wonder whether their understanding would be enhanced by seeing the images, but that is doubtful.

IT IS the COMPLETE CRUX of the story that an Imam would purposefully drag these around the sands of the mideast and beat them into swords of slaughter for a billion people with 12 cartoons and three of his own and you say the understanding would not be enhanced if published?!!!!???

You are part of their 5th column and I’ll tell you this- the enemy of your enemy is Not your friend. I spit on your sidewalks that you would cave into this kind of extortion. You are cowards and make Neville Chamberlain look like a man.

Throughout history a few of us always gotta clean up the mess and Fancher you have helped make it...until you turn your paperblog over to rooting for the home team ya better get that burka on your wife and tuck that turban over your hair club for men haircut because your on their side. Probably deliberate by design he still has Jimmy Carter Rocks Tehran 1979 World Tour poster up.

Posted by: Col. Hogan on February 12, 2006 03:57 PM
19. Fancher and the Seattle Slimes are Vichy Media. Willing collaborators in the War on the West.

They have become active participants in the a War on Liberty. They have chosen sides, thinking they will save their necks. They deserve nothing except our contempt and ridicule.

Posted by: JCM on February 12, 2006 05:16 PM
20. Direct your displeasure to Fancher himself - a public groundswell can spur their reaction to appease us - instead of the Islamofascists !

Posted by: KS on February 12, 2006 09:24 PM
21. Come on, Stefan... There's no compelling editorial reason for the Times or the P-I to print the cartoons.

Why should they knowingly offend a number of their readers when the cartoons are easily accessible online to anyone who wants to go looking for them?

They're not censoring the story. They are not refusing to talk about the issue. And I certainly don't get the impression that they are saying the reaction of the Muslim world is appropriate.

They are simply not choosing to re-publish the cartoons in their pages -- just as they choose not to publish any number of news items or crime details every day.

Posted by: Mickymse on February 12, 2006 09:34 PM
22. That is a lame mickeymouse explanation and excuse by Mickymse. So we should all give them a pass for being wusses and not publishing the cartoons because we mustn't offend anyone - they offend many readers every day and that's way an increasing number of people are cancelling their subscriptions. Their speed would be to publish them 6 weeks from now, when they no longer matter..BFD !

Posted by: KS on February 12, 2006 09:40 PM
23. it should have read "that's why an increasing number of people are cancelling their subscriptions"

Posted by: KS on February 12, 2006 09:42 PM
24. We don't make decisions based on whether or not others will take offence, we make them because they are objectively good or bad.

It matters not that some Muslims may be offended by publishing these cartoons if the greater effect is that we displace our moral certitude. This is what the Times is hoping to achieve along with the rest of the mainstream media. The Islamic fanatics along with their appeasers in our media are hopeing to break the will of the American people.

But they have miscalculated because Americans are not motivated by others, they are motivated by themselves. I do not care, nor do the vast majority of Americans care whether our lifestyle if offensive to Muslims. We know that we live by a far greater code than that of Sharia law. We live by the code of mutual benefit. Each of us knows that if we can persuade a man with our good ideas we will have far greater results than trying to persuade that same man through fear, guilt or any of the more craven negative forces.

We defend our way of life because we know it has produced superior results. All we have to do is look at our country, thriving under Western culture vs. those rotting Middle Eastern theorcracies dying under the tyranny of oppression and suppression, even in spite of their vast wealth in natural resources.

The cameras do not lie. Look at daily pictures of a street in the US vs. a street in the Middle East. Would you rather live life under our subjugation of mutual tolerance that ultimately gives rise to vast commerce, or under the subjugation of mutual intolerance that gaurantees uniformity and poverty?

Let the Seattle Times keep it up with their insistence of painting a bright orange line for Americans to choose sides upon. For the vast majority of Americans, the choice of a diverse, tolerant, passionate, pleasurable and rewarding life WILL be easy, and that WILL be offensive to Muslims.

Posted by: Jeff B. on February 12, 2006 10:43 PM
25. In short, the riots are political, not religious. They're organized in top-down style by extremists, not at all spontaneous outbursts by 'average' Muslims. In Iran, Syria and Lebanon at least they were sanctioned by local governments - who have the means and will to quickly suppress violent street gatherings.

Hank, that's one of the differences that make a difference...in the Muslim world there's no difference between the political and the religious. They claim the right to impose their political will on non-believers as a matter of religious freedom.

Their world view is so different than ours that we can use the same words and mean totally different things. I don't expect them to understand that, although I suspect they do; if anyone should understand it, it's the so-called intellectual left. That would require a level of objectivity and abstraction I do not see any evidence of.

Posted by: South County on February 13, 2006 02:53 AM
26. Agreed. The religious exploits the political, and vice versa.

Once Communism had become a religion, it did the same.

Posted by: Hank Bradley on February 13, 2006 06:23 AM
27. You know the one thing in common with the wars/conflicts we have fought in the last 15 years in Iraq/Kuwait, Somalia, Kosovo, Afghanistan and Iraq (again)? They all in some way were to benefit Muslims. But yet here we are, still worlds apart and not getting any better. Even though we were not the ones to originally publish the cartoons, it is still our flag they are burning.

If Muslims truly want freedom, many of them have a funny way of showing it. Maybe they don't deserve it. I was in support of the war, but it's wearing thin. I'm starting to think that if these people don't want freedom and the warts that go along with it, then give them what they want. Let them go back to the 9th century.

Posted by: Palouse on February 13, 2006 09:28 AM
28. Freedom of the Press is a two-way street. Actually, it's more of an open street. It doesn't mean the Times has to give you what you want to see. It means they decide what to put in THEIR OWN paper - exactly as The Stranger did. "Ducking for cover"??? Seriously - grow up. It's ironic that the editor provides "no insight" when it's something you disagree with. Bigots who bash decisions made in free speech are the ones who should be "muzzled."

Posted by: Loki on February 13, 2006 01:42 PM
29. Loki,

And freedom of the press works even better when you make sense. Try again -

Posted by: das on February 13, 2006 05:51 PM
30. It's true that the slimes can profess and proclaim their cowardice in front of God and everybody. And equally true that we can deride them for their fecklessness.

Curiously, it's only extremists, leftists and muzzie's, who would presume to choose who to "muzzle".....

Funny how America's liberal democrat is becoming indistinguishable from the ME's "insurgent" (AKA terrorist)....

Posted by: alphabet soup on February 13, 2006 08:21 PM
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