If you ever wanted to be a fly on the wall at a gathering where the finest minds in the Democratic Party let it all hang out, be sure to listen to David Goldstein's Podcasting Liberally. This week's installment is a panel discussion featuring Washington State Democratic Party chairman "Cuba" Dwight Pelz. In this 29 second clip (about 21:00 into the program), Pelz gives his closing remarks --
The Democratic Party is a party of values and a few values that we appreciate are drinking and liberals fuckingTo be fair to Pelz, the guy who blurted out the word fucking was not Pelz. It was Sandeep Kaushik, spokesman to King County Executive Ron Sims .
And from earlier in the discussion, there's this fascinating bit of analysis of the differences between the Green Party and Democrats. (about 3:00 into the program).
In the top clip, Goldstein defines "podcast" as "radio show that nobody listens to". One can only hope that more people start listening to his podcasts. (The full 55:53, 52 MB audio file of this week's program is here.)
Posted by Stefan Sharkansky at March 30, 2006 09:06 AM | Email ThisThis is all very funny. But not sure sometimes do you mean to expose liberals this way cause it means something REAL to peoples lives or are you doing it cause you think it really matters. Which? Sincerely cause where I am coming from this falls under categorey of sweating the small stuff.
You always seemed to me to be bigger then worrying about this type of stuff.
Respectfully
Once At City
the parties really aren't that different. their marketing spin (i.e. each parties' issues, platform, etc.) may appear different, but really it seems as if we are talking about coke or pepsi.
just look at federal spending and the terry schiavo case. republicans as fiscal hawks and small govt? not anymore.
Posted by: dinesh on March 30, 2006 09:54 AMPodcasts are fair game, and I am sure if there were the equivalent of this audio for the Republicans, it would be all over HA, as well as in the Times, PI, et al.
Posted by: Palouse on March 30, 2006 10:01 AMThe interesting note here is that Blatherwatch listens in on Talk Radio that actually has an audience, advertisers, in short a market. Whereas as even Goldstein notes, Podcasting Liberally is basically something that nobody listens to, beyond the few people that actually go to Drinking Liberally and might have missed a night, or Conservatives like us who get a kick out of listening to fools like Goldstein get drunk and make a Horse's Ass of himself.
It's truly insightful to listen to these Podcasts though to see just how infected with Marxism that these people really are. These Progressives would be the downfall of this great country if it were not for the rise in conservativism that is in direct response to their failed ideas. They can't figure out why Bush got elected twice and states are getting redder. They don't see just how damaging, and more important unrealistic and impractical their ideas are. But their ideas gaurantee that they will not exist for much longer, so there is nothing to fear.
Their ideas expose the failures of socialism, bankrupt any government that tries to implement them, and lead to a demographically smaller and smaller population of like minds. It's only a matter of time before they either turn off more mainstream Americans and reduce their political influence, or simply dwindle to extinction due to lack of procreation given their social policies.
Posted by: Jeff B. on March 30, 2006 10:16 AMSoundPolitics.com
Horsesass.org
But yeah. There's not much difference between conservatives and liberals.
And would some lefty please explain to me how attempting to stop a woman from being starved to death is a bad thing?
Posted by: jimg on March 30, 2006 10:20 AMconservatives used to stand for small government. got any evidence that the republican party stands for small govt?
conservatives used to stand for fiscal restraint? got any evidence that the republican party demonstrates fiscal restraint?
i agree the post is fair--i just think stefan generally highlights the idiocy of the local dems in more compelling ways.
Posted by: dinesh on March 30, 2006 10:54 AMThese IDIOTS really believe they are responsible for David Irons losing, bring down FEMA Brown and Gregoire stealing the election.
Alcohol does do funny things to weak-minded people.
Until the Democrats start proposing actual cuts in spending, as opposed to consistently wailing about decreases in the amount of increases, they and their supporters have no standing to argue about increased government spending.
Posted by: jimg on March 30, 2006 12:46 PMDidja happen to notice that while the Republicans were "spending like drunken sailors", the democraps were still criticizing them for being skinflints?!!
Posted by: alphabet soup on March 30, 2006 01:21 PMOhmigosh! Sandeep said the f-word! (I feel silly even typing "f-word.") It's not like Ron Sims hadn't read The Stranger before hiring Sandeep.
Posted by: Goldy on March 30, 2006 04:00 PMi am skeptical of both parties, but especially of the party that is in power. my (limited) observation is that power corrupts, and politicians are the worst people upon whom power should be bestowed.
i appreciate the struggle in washington to create a more politically diverse climate and therefore generally applaud the efforts of this blog. that said, i am extremely skeptical of partisanship and even more skeptical of today's "conservatives" who have supported the wholesale destruction of this country's balance sheet. if i did that to my household balance sheet, my wife would divorce me in a minute. loyalty? not in you are unfaithful to shared principles. fiscal sanity, smaller, efficient effective govt are things i like. true opposition parties are something i support.
Posted by: dinesh on March 30, 2006 04:19 PMWe'll save you a glowstick!
Posted by: Will on March 30, 2006 04:59 PMOh My God!
No wonder the liberal trolls are all over this thread!!! They are so EXPOSED for the lewd and disgusting jackasses they truly are!
Sandeep must be a charter member of the "Drinking Liberally" crowd! Just gross! I could just slap them upside their ugly heads.
This is what Ron Sims considers Good Home Training?
That's it, you need your own podcast. I thought about it before now and now seems to be the time. Not as a response so much, but a sane alternative.
Goldy seems to be excited about how many people are downloading. I too am excited, nothing like a foe who defeats himself. I'll add to the downloading, out of morbid curiosity.
Posted by: TedR on March 30, 2006 06:07 PMHas anyone checked Kaushik's green card?Posted by Lon at March 30, 2006 06:12 PM
Man... and you think the so-called "f-word" is offensive? You guys are amazing.
That said, sure Will, I'd be happy to extend to Stefan the very same offer I extended to Dori... you're welcome on the podcast anytime, Stefan. Nothing to fear... sticks and stones and all that.
Posted by: Goldy on March 30, 2006 08:51 PMTo the best of my knowledge he was born in the U.S.
Posted by: Stefan Sharkansky on March 30, 2006 09:06 PMTell me Goldy, how would you leftists react if someone were to do a statewide mailing about this little quote of Comrade Pelz?
One can only wonder what the millions of voters in this state would think of such a thing. Of course it doesn't bother you... after all, those ARE democrat values.
Posted by: Hinton on March 30, 2006 09:15 PMLet Pelz continue to take the Democrat party over the left cliff - its only a matter of time before they get their world rocked and fall out of power. However, the Republicans will have to show something new besides their ineptness for it to happen...
Posted by: KS on March 30, 2006 10:18 PMI think I need to go for a swim and cool off!!!
They said it was awesome, and that everyone should download it. Really.
Posted by: Will on March 31, 2006 01:56 AMFrankly I don't care about a little naughty language, but elevating political correctness above social grace indicates to me that his priorities are off.
Maybe it's too early to be posting, because I shouldn't be suprised that a liberal's priorities are off.
Posted by: Dan on March 31, 2006 06:47 AMYou have nothing to do with your time but criticize your intellectual superiors on the left who are running this city, county, and state, and who will soon be running the country.
You make me laugh!
Posted by: Quiet Liberal on March 31, 2006 07:58 AMOne says, "man, that Dori Monson's a hypocrit." And the other says, "yeah, he's got three kids, but says he's never f*ked his wife!"
Posted by: rossi too on March 31, 2006 08:18 AMYour idols have been outed by their own hand for the arrogant, foul-mouthed juveniles they are, and you can't stand it! I'm hoping Goldy gets lots and lots of hits on the podcast. The more the better. It's just such a wonderful example of liberal mind-set. A paid TV ad couldn't have done as much good! I think hoisted on their own petard applies here.
Posted by: katomar on March 31, 2006 09:51 AMDick Cheney, Vice President of the United States, on the floor of the United States Senate, June 25, 2004: "F*ck yourself!"
Posted by: Quiet Liberal on March 31, 2006 11:01 AMfor example:
"Intelligence gathered by this and other governments leaves no doubt that the Iraq regime continues to possess and conceal some of the most lethal weapons ever devised."
Address to the nation, March 17, 2003
the list goes on...
potty mouth is one thing. facts (or the lack thereof) regarding war is a far more serious topic.
Posted by: dinesh on March 31, 2006 11:53 AMChuck Schumer > October 10, 2002
"It is Hussein's vigorous pursuit of biological, chemical and nuclear weapons, and his present and future potential support for terrorist acts and organizations that make him a danger to the people of the united states."
Nancy Pelosi > December 16, 1998
"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology, which is a threat to countries in the region, and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
Madeleine Albright > February 1, 1998
"We must stop Saddam from ever again jeopardizing the stability and the security of his neighbors with weapons of mass destruction."
John Kerry > January 23, 2003
"Without question we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator leading an impressive regime. He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation. And now he's miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction. His consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction."
Senator Carl Levin > September 19, 2002
"We begin with a common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations, is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them."
Ted Kennedy > September 27, 2002
"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."
Posted by: Palouse on March 31, 2006 12:28 PM
Nancy Pelosi > October 10, 2002
"Yes, he [Saddam] has chemical weapons. Yes, he has biological weapons. He is trying to get nuclear weapons."
Russell Feingold > October 9, 2002
"With regard to Iraq, I agree Iraq presents a genuine threat, especially in the form of weapons of mass destruction: chemical, biological and potentially nuclear weapons. I agree that Saddam Hussein is exceptionally dangerous and brutal, if not uniquely so, as the president argues."
Hillary Clinton > January 22, 2003
"I voted for the Iraqi resolution. I consider the prospect of a nuclear-armed Saddam Hussein who can threaten not only his neighbors but the stability of the region and the world, a very serious threat to the United States."
Joe Biden > August 4, 2002
"We know he continues to attempt to gain access to additional capability, including nuclear capability."
John Kerry > January 31, 2003
"If you don't believe...Saddam Hussein
is a threat with nuclear weapons, then
you shouldn't vote for me."
Al Gore > September 23, 2002
"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
Hillary Clinton > October 10, 2002
"It is clear, however, that if left unchecked Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capability to wage biological and chemical warfare and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
Al Gore > December 16, 1998
"[I]f you allow someone like Saddam Hussein to get nuclear weapons, ballistic missiles, chemical weapons, biological weapons, how many people is he going to kill with such weapons? He has already demonstrated a willingness to use such weapons..."
Thanks for the vote of confidence (if that's what it was) regarding my immigration status, but I was actually born in India. My family emigrated to the U.S. when I was about two years old, and I grew up in the D.C. suburbs. I became a naturalized U.S. citizen when I was 17: ceremony in Baltimore, blue-haired old ladies handing out little American flags, forswearing my allegience to foreign potentates, the whole deal. Very quaint and memorable, in its way.
As for having a potty-mouth, I stand convicted. I also stand in good company, if you like the current regime in the other Washington. George Bush is known to curse like a sailor (just ask Adam Clymer). And he's been caught on camera flipping the bird. We all know about Dick Cheney's foul mouth. (Katomar: you're completely wrong when you claim that Cheney never chuckled about his comment. In fact, he went on FOX a few days after the incident and chuckled away as he confided that he felt great for having said what he did. "I expressed myself rather forcefully, felt better after I had done it," is what he told Neil Cavuto). Antonin Scalia apparently enjoys spouting his obscenities in Italian, complete with obscene gestures. And he was in a church, while I was just joking around in a bar.
It's true, though, that I do regret having said what I did, because I have just been informed that my application for sainthood has been denied. Word on the street is that it is now going to Dori Monson.
He's the Grand Poopa of Idiocy if you ask me.
Posted by: dinesh on March 31, 2006 02:59 PMAnd that's why no one gives a fig about what you feeeeeel.....
(Oh, and it's "grand poobah", Einstein)
Posted by: alphabet soup on March 31, 2006 03:18 PMI cringe at his public speaking. I hate his fiscal policy - he's very liberal. I wish he would scrap Star Wars, scrap the guest worker program and put troops on the border. I wish he would fully fund stem cell research. But I don't go as far to call him an idiot - he's got an MBA from Harvard, which even if you are rich they don't just give away. And he's been elected twice to the most powerful position in the world. That counts.
Posted by: Palouse on March 31, 2006 03:35 PMI wasn't criticizing your profane language. I was merely amused that you and Dwight chose to summarize the foregoing discussion by declaring that the Democratic Party is the party of drinking and fucking. My only constructive input is that you should have said "... drinking and fucking at other people's expense" ;)
Posted by: Stefan Sharkansky on March 31, 2006 03:46 PMC'mon quiet, let's see you put us there
Your liberal projection would be humorous if it weren't so pathetic.
Show us what you got mofo.........
Posted by: alphabet soup on March 31, 2006 08:12 PMWait a second here. YOU trifling dimwitts are saying the spokesman to King County Executive Ron Sims dropping the F bomb on a podcast is "just such a wonderful example of liberal mind-set" while the CONSERVATIVE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES calling a reporter an ahole, the CONSERVATIVE VICE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES telling a senator to go F*ck himself or the CONSERVATIVE CHIEF JUSTICE OF THE UNITED STATES SUPREME COURT using an obscene gesture in church is just some sort of aberative joke.
Like this whinging delicacy will play with anyone but hypocritical fundie maniacs anyhow.
Posted by: Sarcastro on April 2, 2006 11:42 AMWhen is your next speech Ron? This ought to be fun!
Posted by: Smokie on April 2, 2006 12:54 PMSarcastro, are you a real moron, or do you just play one on the Internet?
Posted by: alphabet soup on April 2, 2006 08:49 PM