Our good friend Eli Sanders of The Stranger was the first local blogger to break the political blockbuster story of the decade last Friday: Karl Rove has been indicted:
it's late in the day, so I'm only going to give you the most certain-sounding of these indictment predictions. It comes from Truthout:Oops. The Truthout story was baseless. I think the website that broke the "story" is called Truthout, because there is no truth in it.Within the last week, Karl Rove told President Bush and Chief of Staff Joshua Bolten, as well as a few other high level administration officials, that he will be indicted in the CIA leak case and will immediately resign his White House job when the special counsel publicly announces the charges against him, according to sources.
This wasn't the first time that Sanders was gulled by a bogus Rove indictment rumor --
"I felt burned by all that speculation last fall about an imminent Rove indictment, because it all turned out not to be true... Or, maybe, not yet true".April 21, 2006:
"Rove Indictment Coming? Truthout says it's likely."December 14, 2005:
"The chatter that Rove may be indicted soon is getting louder, and as Dan noted yesterday, there’s even dates being bandied about. Everything suggests that if it happens, it will happen before the new year."October 26, 2005
* But fast forwarding to now, and to the blogs, Raw Story has the juciest news, reporting that when the grand jury convened today, Fitzgerald asked it to indict both Rove and Libby on perjury and obstruction of justiceKeep at it, Eli. One of these days you'll report something correctly, whether it's the Rove story or something else. Posted by Stefan Sharkansky at May 15, 2006 05:35 PM | Email This
His win-at-all-costs and ratf@#k-the-other-guy approach has brought Republican victory at the price of civility, adherence to principle, and maybe the party's very soul. Maybe I'm old fashioned.
Posted by: Can't get behind Karl on May 15, 2006 06:19 PMIn spite of what came out of Bush's mouth tonight, I'll believe it makes any difference when I see it. This is coming from someone who typically loathes liberal Democrats. Face it, when it comes to the border, Bush and Clinton are no different and Bush is parsing words just like Clinton did.
Posted by: KS on May 15, 2006 06:44 PMI fail to see how Rove gets the blame for incivility in today's politics, that has been coming from the left as far back as I can remember.
Posted by: DakotaRed on May 15, 2006 07:27 PMTypical liberal mind set; wanting to see someone "frog-marched" out of the WH on trumped up charges, while members of their party flout the law, break the law, and ignore court orders, among other offenses.
But what else do you expect from a party whose values include perjury, official misconduct, fraud, deception, obstruction of justice, lying, cheating, rigging elections, taking private property, and surrender.
Posted by: Obi-Wan on May 15, 2006 09:19 PMThere's something particularly satisfying with blind partisanship when it compels someone to pluck his own eyes out in favor of maintaining the illusion. In witless's case, the liberal (no pun intended) expression of BDS has been so completely knee-jerk that one must wonder how he can manage to motivate his enormous girth whilst spazzing about.
Never let the facts that Rove never did anything immoral, unethical, or illegal get in the way of a good tantrum there Witless! Get out there and shake it fat boy!
Posted by: alphabet soup on May 15, 2006 09:19 PMFellating Doktor Karl and whistling past the graveyard on behalf of Der Administration seem to have rendered you incapable of putting forth any genuine ideas.
I trust that you and your 29% (and ever diminishing) slice of the electorate enjoy that ever deepening pit of ideological guano into which you have dug yourself.
Bon Appetit!
Surely, even you are smart enough to realize this.
Posted by: Cheryl on May 15, 2006 10:37 PMIt's not Eli Sanders' fault that "Republican" and "indicted" now sound natural together. They've been working long and hard to make that connection themselves.
Posted by: Paddy Mac on May 15, 2006 10:38 PMLiberals are so twisted with their own corrupt hatred, perversion and depravity that if they cannot make their perceived enemies look as bad as they know that they are, they go into jags of depression. The only thing Rove has done was to help throw a wrench into the liberal communist suck-a$$ machine, restore our economy, win the war in Afghanistan and Iraq, and put decency back into the White House.
Scummy morons that support Bill Clinton and Ted Kennedy love the idea of punishing people on false charges because they are vindictive spiteful zealots who love to spite those who disagree with their phony pretense of moral superiority. Those who act as if Rove's indictment is a fait accompli are literally stupid enough to believe that there is something in the Valerie Plame farce to indict someone (anyone) about. The Valerie Plame farce indicates the desperation liberals feel at having absolutely no character, ideas, intellectual honesty, intellect or integrity.
If the Bush administration was one tenth as arbitrary and corrupt as liberals say, they would have eliminated the problems liberals pose in aways that no Democrat can stop, but never mind the facts, this isn't about truth -- it is about petty liberal partisanship. If Republicans took even a little bit of the same attitude, we would have no one to argue with because there wouldn't be a Democrat left in office.
A liberal Democrat indicted Tom Delay but will never convict him of anything because he is not guilty of anything, they may yet indict Rove but it will only be because they will stoop to anything. That they want to shows how little else they feeeel is important to do -- like formulate ideas to lead anything . . . or . . . help anyone.
Liberals are sick jokes.
Posted by: Amused by liberals on May 15, 2006 10:40 PMNPI sounded sulky, Eli sounded, well like a Burner cheerleader that didn't get credit for his amazing "spirit fingers".
Posted by: Patrick on May 15, 2006 11:28 PM"Those who act as if Rove's indictment is a fait accompli are literally stupid enough to believe that there is something in the Valerie Plame farce to indict someone (anyone) about. The Valerie Plame farce indicates the desperation liberals feel at having absolutely no character, ideas, intellectual honesty, intellect or integrity."
The Vice-President's (former) Chief of Staff has been indicted on multiple counts of perjury, all relating directly to Traitor Novak's felonious destruction of Valerie Plame's career. (Remember when lying under oath was a bad thing? BTW, that does not imply that anyone named Clinton was ever actually indicted for anything. Republicans spent much of 1995 and 1996 falsely claiming that Mrs. Clinton would be indicted.)
I love especially this "proof" of White House goodness:
"If the Bush administration was one tenth as arbitrary and corrupt as liberals say, they would have eliminated the problems liberals pose in aways that no Democrat can stop..."
That does not imply innocence, only incompetence. A desire to hurt one's (real or perceived) enemies means nothing without the ability to do so. They tried to smear Ambassador Wilson's credibility by exposing his wife. Now a prosecutor rips into their White House, and Mr. Wilson looks like a godly fount of wisdom compared to his attackers. These guys make their idol, Richard Nixon, look smooth and polished.
Posted by: Paddy Mac on May 15, 2006 11:28 PMWhich is it? Is this an "incompetant administration"? or a brilliantly evil one? For the life of me I can't see how they can possibly be BOTH!
Please just ignore the sound of conservative and rational people everywhere laughing at you.
Posted by: Cheryl on May 16, 2006 01:02 AMMY PACKAGE FROM AMAZON.COM WILL ARRIVE IN 24-40 BUSINESS HOURS.
YES, I WORK 40 BUSINESS HOURS A WEEK.
Isn't it time to admit this is nonsense?
Posted by: Timekeeper on May 16, 2006 06:20 AMAll thanks to is no veto fiscal policy which has created the "blank check anything goes" Congress.
This guy is undoing the Reagan revolution and is going to deliver us the Confederacy of Democratic Dunces in November. He simply does not know how to govern and only knows how to "trip over the political snowflakes" left by democratic clowns.
And Rove is the genius Archtect behind it.
God, please help us true conservatives!!
JPO
Posted by: JPO on May 16, 2006 07:48 AMMy guess is that anything that would get paddy-whacked out of his crypt and to actually defend this goofy witch-hunt with a straight face (so tell me paddy-whack, do you even get a reflection when you look in a mirror?) must be striking the right nerves!
Wilson outted his own old lady. Novak whored the info as part of his gossip column. Lefty morons (but I repeat myself) like paddy-whack and Witless are desperate to drag the rest of humanity down to their degenerate level, and seize upon any opportunity, no matter how foolish, in that effort.
Don't look now whack, but your idiocy is showing!
Posted by: alphabet soup on May 16, 2006 08:48 AMWhen asked for comment Wilson said that it doesn't matter who "outed" her.
BTW, I don't know how you "out" someone who drives to CIA headquarters at Langley every day.
Posted by: Obi-Wan on May 16, 2006 10:46 AMOh wait, this already happened, they did this to themsleves with the exit polls in 2004. Remember how convinced they all were that Kerry was winning. The looks of sudden realization coming over the faces of all the talking heads was priceless.
Posted by: Jeff B on May 16, 2006 10:58 AMThanks.
Posted by: Amused by liberals on May 16, 2006 01:05 PMI suppose now that you know that the elections staff are Teamsters Union members you are going to tell us that there is no reason anyone might ever think that having our votes counted by them in backrooms is questionable.
I'm sure you would also be very comfortable to have the Building Industry Association of Washington do the final tally and issue the final elections certification.
While the BIAW is not in the habit of creating spreadsheets without column summaries, and making false reports to the voters like the Teamsters en camp with petty criminals like Deanron, they can add, subtract, and discern the difference between right and wrong.
As a shameless blind liberal apologist for petty criminals and butt pirate liberal Democrats -- you don't seem to have much more to say here.
What other half-hearted and clueless attempts at corrections do you have for us?
Posted by Amused by liberals at May 14, 2006 11:53 AM
Amused,
Nothing I said was as rude as you have been. Do you have some excuse? Is it inappropriate to ask questions? I'll be waiting for your apology, asshole.
"Fuzzy on the Details?
The crowd at the annual meeting of the Michigan Trial Lawyers Association came to its feet this weekend at the news that senior presidential adviser Karl Rove had been indicted on perjury charges in the CIA leak case. Trouble is, it wasn't true.
The rumor appears to have been started by a left-wing Web site called, of all things, Truthout.org, which reported that Special Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald went over the charges with Rove's attorney for 15 hours on Friday, and that Rove later informed the White House of his impending resignation.
Rove's lawyer says no such meeting occurred and that Fitzgerald was in Chicago on Friday. And a spokesman for Rove denied any such conversations with White House officials. Truthout.org, meanwhile, says it stands by its story."
From Special Report with Brit Hume 5/16/06
Posted by: Obi-Wan on May 16, 2006 04:10 PMHold your breath.
Posted by: Amused by liberals on May 16, 2006 04:30 PMWhy should we liberals have to choose? Fascism, cronyism, and incompetence have, historically, made for very cozy bedfellows. Stalin's regime excelled in domestic spying, imprisonment of dissidents, and mass murder of internal enemies, real or imagined. It abjectly, utterly, totally failed to protect itself against external invasion.
Can anyone think of a modern, unelected regime whose criminal operatives spy upon their domestic opponents, but have failed to protect their homeland against external attack?
Posted by: Paddy Mac on May 16, 2006 08:04 PMAs for the errors which Sound Politics made in the election challenge lawsuit, no such mitigating circumstances apply. Judge Bridges had made clear the burden of proof which the plaintiffs faced, a burden imposed by the legislature and legal precedent. By the end of the two-week argument phase, the plaintiffs had completely failed to produce a single piece of evidence in support of their case. Despite the total lack of evidence-- not one felon was shown to have voted for Gregoire-- Sound Politics boldly claimed that Judge Bridges would void the election.
When Sound Politics apologizes for this error, it can criticize others for their mistakes. After all, conservatives stand for individual responsibility, right?
Posted by: Paddy Mac on May 16, 2006 08:13 PMIt's OK whack, just keep repeating;
**click** There's no place like home.
**click** There's no place like home.
**click** There's no place like home.
Posted by: alphabet soup on May 16, 2006 08:47 PMRove and Bush are RINO's much of the time (more accurately Neo-Cons), who believe in Big Government and Globalism - they really want open borders. WIth that said, I like Bush's Supreme Court appointments, but his performance for the 2nd term gets a D-. He has not followed up on Tort Reform, had no coherent plan that he could communicate to the people for Social Security and is finally showing a half-hearted attempt to secure the border,while Iraq goes on. Finally, I voted for him twice. A majority of the Democrat politicians are sleezier and with little or no conscience when it comes to serving the people who elected them - witness King County and Olympia. Sad !!
Posted by: KS on May 16, 2006 08:51 PMClinton sold yours and my a$$es down the road because he wanted to be loved and admired and now Bush has to contend with the insanity, stupidity, and the outright treason of liberals like Paddy Crap who believe in fairy tales, rap song lyrics, and morons like Ted Kennedy, and Al Gore.
Many of us understand despite the MSM prejudice that Iraq is a resounding success, but it will continue to go on a lot longer (many years) -- get used to it -- war is never easy or pretty.
Leadership is keeping your head when all of those about you are losing theirs. GW Bush is keeping a cool head, his eye on the ball, and his attention on carefully guiding America through dangerous waters. Liberal dip-Shits are flagellating themselves about Valerie (non issue) Plame.
Tort reform is small potatoes, and no one can force Social Security reform on idiots who will not see the truth. I agree whole heartedly that these things are dissapointing, but you cannot expect a President -- any President -- to make up for the imbecility of the likes of a political party full of morons like Unkl Witz, Bartelby or Paddy crap.
There are liberal Republicans making things difficult as well, and you are coming dangerously close to acting like one of them. Please knock it off -- those of us that are sane and responsible need you. Unfortunately it is popular to be an idiot like these people and if they have their way, soon you will be lamenting the fact that Bush is no longer in charge.
The only thing that can defeat America is the war against GW Bush. Not because of who he is, but what he truly represents -- honest, straightforward, unvarnished leadership.
Posted by: Amused by liberals on May 16, 2006 10:44 PMstill waiting for that excuse.
So, I'm "a shameless blind liberal apologist for petty criminals and butt pirate liberal Democrats?" And you changed Stefan's backroom alleys to back rooms. You also didn't address my question to Stefan about where the ballot counting was being moved to, as he seemed to be implying. Nor did you address the presence of both the partisan (R and D) and non-partisan observers. In what way does raising these questions make me "a shameless blind liberal apologist for petty criminals and butt pirate liberal Democrats?"
Can you back up what you say with anything other than lies, smears, and distortions? Does the truth really make you so uncomfortable that you feeeel the need for irrational emotional attacks on anyone who asks questions whether they agree with you or not?
I'm still waiting.
Posted by: eric on May 17, 2006 10:28 AMYou don't have an argument.
Hold your breath.
Posted by: Amused by liberals on May 17, 2006 03:15 PMNo, you are the one who refused argument, debate, discussion, whatever in favor of name calling and distortion. I have yet to see you make any kind of rational point. Do you feeeeeeeeeel too scared to engage someone in a real discusion, so you feeeeeel you must resort to an inflammatory screed rather than discuss things like an adult?
Posted by: eric on May 17, 2006 05:09 PMSince to you, "Hold your Breath" is an "inflammatory screed" and your comments are what you consider "discuss[ing] things like an adult," I prefer to let the rest of your comments speak for themselves. Too easy thanks.
While I thank you for the kind opportunity, I'm not too keen on your wonderful invitation; I don't speak moron.
Besides, possibly after your high-falutin' demonstrated abilities at argument and debate, I'm too skeeeert to engage someone of your immense capabilities.
Or . . . not.
Either way . . . on that apology thing . . . hold your breath
Posted by: Amused by liberal twinks like eric on May 17, 2006 08:27 PMYou remind me of another eric I once knew. Nice fella, although a bit excitable. Do you wear the dark blue Dockers that hide the pee stains too? When you have these tantrums do your eyes bug out?
Inquiring minds want to know ;'}
Posted by: alphabet soup on May 18, 2006 07:10 AMFrom Wayne Madsen Report:
Several sources have told WMR that an announcement concerning the indictment of Rove will be made on Friday, May 19 generally following the same scenario from October 28, 2005 -- the posting of the indictment on the Special Prosecutor's web site followed by a press conference at Main Justice.
From OpEdNews:
It is now 12:39pm on May 17, five days after the publication of Leopold’s article on Truthout. I spoke a few moments ago with William Rivers Pitt who reassured me both that he and Jason were not offended by my Monday article and that they stick by their assertions 100%. I can not tell the entire contents of the conversation as much of it was off the record, but as a result of it, I am going to hold off further speculation until the end of the day on Friday, May 19, or until, how shall I put it, events obviously dictate otherwise. I thank my readers for being patient until then.Posted by: JP on May 18, 2006 09:15 AM
Only morons would buy into this Valerie Plame nonsense.
It begs for the humiliation of anyone who embraces it because there is no legitimate issue.
That leaves it wide open for liberals.
Who cares?
More fuel to the liberal democrat funeral pire.
Again, here is the interaction which occurred on 12 May:
I said:
Are the ballots going to counted at a different location than they have been? Will partisan and non-partisan observers no longer be able to observe the ballot counting process?
"...then they try to take away your right to choose how to vote, and to force all of us to have our votes counted in Backroom Alleys by member of the Teamsters Union."
How are the teamsters involved? I'm sure it would be a terrible thing if the ballots were counted by people with decent wages and health care benefits.
Will there be options for those who would rather not fill out their ballots at home or mail them in?
Wouldn't a more uniform voting system throughout the county make it easier to ensure accuracy?
Posted by: eric on May 12, 2006 12:17 PM
To which you replied:
'Hey eric.
I suppose now that you know that the elections staff are Teamsters Union members you are going to tell us that there is no reason anyone might ever think that having our votes counted by them in backrooms is questionable.
I'm sure you would also be very comfortable to have the Building Industry Association of Washington do the final tally and issue the final elections certification.
While the BIAW is not in the habit of creating spreadsheets without column summaries, and making false reports to the voters like the Teamsters en camp with petty criminals like Deanron, they can add, subtract, and discern the difference between right and wrong.
As a shameless blind liberal apologist for petty criminals and butt pirate liberal Democrats -- you don't seem to have much more to say here.
What other half-hearted and clueless attempts at corrections do you have for us?
Posted by: Amused by liberals on May 14, 2006 11:53 AM
Again, what is your excuse for your insults? Did I insult you or anyone you know? Is this how you address the many 'liberal' roommates of which you are so proud of besting in 'argument'?
The only question you attempted to answer was with an unproven assertion followed by insults for, what, daring to ask questions? Do this website and yourself embody the unquestionable authority which is blasphemous for me to ask questions of?
. . . . and all’s right with the world.
Gosh, what a disappointment for liberals.
Posted by: Amused by liberals on May 20, 2006 05:41 PM