Seattle Times editorial, January 30, 2005
One bad idea would make the elections director a directly elected nonpartisan auditor instead of an executive appointee ... The more important goal is to have a qualified professional lead the office, and that person may not be a natural-born fund-raiser or campaigner. Politicizing the office is not the answer.Unfortunately, we have an executive appointee who has politicized the office, which shouldn't be much of a surprise, because Dean Logan is a partisan Democratic activist. I just came across some photos of Logan and others taken at a somewhat recent Democratic Party event . The badges of Logan and his buddy are at bottom.
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Jacob Metcalf is Technology Director for Young Democrats of Washington. He's also an occasional, and particularly nasty commenter on my blogs. Read his own words to see what sort of person Dean Logan, Mrs. Gregoire and Congressman Inslee rub shoulders with --
See the comments from "Jake of 8bitjoystick.com" here
This is a long time Democratic state and these GOP lunacy has no place here. Take that crap back to Texas.and here
So why have we Democrats dominated the Governor's mansion and the congressional delegation. Why don't you move to a nice stupid red state like Texas because you sure as hell are not welcome in this nice solid blue state of Washington.Do all the Young Democrats want to rid the state of people who have differing opinions, or is it just Jacob Metcalf? Posted by Stefan Sharkansky at June 08, 2006 06:06 PM | Email This
The Left is in mourning today after Al-Zarqawi was found dead. Too much good news for em!
Posted by: gs on June 8, 2006 05:42 PMShall we take up a collection so he can get a haircut, gym membership, and hire someone to dress him? He looks like a total dork.
Posted by: H Moul on June 8, 2006 05:53 PMWho's a dork - Logan or Jacob ? I'd say they both make the grade.
Posted by: KS on June 8, 2006 06:04 PM(In cyber-space no one can hear you whine!)
Posted by: alphabet soup on June 8, 2006 07:03 PMHow one longs for the good old days when Records and Elections managers had no political views: http://www.metrokc.gov/mkcc/members/hague/biography.htm
But wait, inspector, what's that boast that GOP Councilmember Hague "[i]nitiated...Vote by Mail Elections"?
Anyone here care to bet how fiercely Inspector S's fearsome monocle will be directed towards this civic outrage?
Posted by: bartelby on June 8, 2006 07:23 PM(Or was it bed-wetter?)
Posted by: alphabet soup on June 8, 2006 07:37 PM(As if we ever doubted that Deanron was a liberal Dem...)snicker
Posted by: Deborah on June 8, 2006 07:50 PM
I for one would not be surprised if most people in government have some sort of political affiliation.
Perhaps you would prefer robots.
"Solid blue?" Um, I don't think this last gubernatorial election really supports that claim. At best, Washington state is more of a purple color...
Posted by: Cydney on June 8, 2006 08:02 PMDean Logan has shown that he likes to hobnob at party functions. This destroys his non partisan credibility to count elections. We expect judges to recuse themselves of this kind of conflict of interest, and in fact the penalties for not doing so in the legal profession can be quite severe. Why do we accord any less respect to the non-partisan authority of Elections Director tasked with the most sacred role in our democracy?
Dean Logan should resign or be terminated. He's become a huge liability to King County.
Posted by: Jeff B. on June 8, 2006 08:19 PMThe trolls are particularly obtuse this evening. As for Mr. Jacob, let me know when he will land at DFW airport. I'll make sure we show him a good time in this nice stupid red state of Texas.
Posted by: Danny on June 8, 2006 08:43 PMThe smoke monster on Lost was based on Jacob Metcalf.
Posted by: Trondawg on June 8, 2006 09:09 PMIf you knew him, even all of you crazy Republicans would think he's a good guy.
So stop your hate.
Posted by: Gerald on June 8, 2006 10:21 PMThe point of Stefan's post was to note the irony of praising the current system of the "non-partisan elections director."
I'm sure if someone posted random pictures of us on the net, we might have embarrassing personal features or fashion choices too. Personal attacks only distract from the important issues - like what a farce it is to claim the current elections director is non-partisan.
Posted by: Vic on June 8, 2006 10:35 PMThe point of Stefan's post was to note the irony of praising the current system of the "non-partisan elections director."
I'm sure if someone posted random pictures of us on the net, we might have embarrassing personal features or fashion choices too. Personal attacks only distract from the important issues - like what a farce it is to claim the current elections director is non-partisan.
Posted by: Vic on June 8, 2006 10:35 PMYou are an overly sensitive little LEFTIST PINHEADED KLOWNling!
Nobody HATES Jacob.
We are merely making fun of him....as he makes fun of us.
Just because YOU want to pretend Jacob isn't a fat marshmellow, doesn't mean Jacob isn't a fat marshmellow.
And look at the buttons on Jacob's Goodwill sportcoat...My God, those buttons are ready to explode!!!! They could put an eye out or worse!
Jacob is a mighty easy target Gerald. Almost as easy as YOU!
Posted by: Mr. Cynical on June 8, 2006 10:38 PMOh, wait...
www.chucknorrisfacts.com
www.jackbauerfacts.com
If you're going to try and be funny, at least try to write something original.
Posted by: Mike H on June 8, 2006 11:58 PMShut up.
Leave Jacob alone. He's a good guy. He's got balls to put it out on the line, day in and day out. All you people making fun of him are pathetic.
This whole thing was about Dean Logan being missing recently. Those pictures are over a year old. The fact that he got his picture taken with a Demo activist, or was at an event that Gregoire was at, proves what? He was at some place? OOOOH! DEAN LOGAN WAS SOMEWHERE!
Jesus Christ...
Just shut up.
Posted by: Trondawg on June 9, 2006 12:38 AMKind of Katharine Harris and Sam Blackwell running Bush's campaigns in there states. Or perhaps like I don't know just about every Sec. of State and election directors, who in there personal life choose to be politically active.
As for the rest of you. Jesus. Have you nothing better to do then mock a young man because you disagree with him. I know Jacob and he is actually quite nice and intelligent. He is just as committed to making this state and country better as some of you are.
Shut up.
Leave Jacob alone...
My comments had nothing to do with Jacob. They were aimed at your lack of originality.
And please, the biggest come back you can come up with when called on your plagerism from Chuck Norris and Jack Bauer websites is "Shut up"? What are you, in eighth grade? Grow up.
Posted by: Mike H on June 9, 2006 04:44 AM" I know Jacob and he is actually quite nice and intelligent. He is just as committed to making this state and country better as some of you are.
Posted by Giffy at June 9, 2006 03:41 AM
Giffy--
You forgot to mention Giffy is spongey, has a bad haircut and desperate needs to consult Queer Eye for a wardrobe makeover!
Are you getting "sweet" on the kid??
Listen, Jacob needs to worry more about his appearance & health than attacking Conservatives.
Did you eat Dean Logan? Posted by: dude on June 9, 2006 05:37 AM
I hope you all know how lame you are, except Giffy. Trondawg loves Giffy, even if he drinks girl drinks out of Geishas, he's still kick-ass. The lot of you... are not.
I wonder if Sam Reed has donated any money to Republican candidates.
Oh my god...
Norm Maeling... Gerry Alexander... Kim Wyman... RICHARD F'NG DEBOLT?!?!?!?!
The head of elections.... donating to republicans... Holy hell!
I wonder...
Could Sam Reed AND Richard DeBolt have been in the same room?
I NEED PICTURES! I mean, he runs the state's elections. The other is the house minority leader. IT'S TOO MUCH FOR MY BRAIN TO HANDLE!
Oh wait... Sam Reed is a partisan Republican. Whoopity-f'ng-doo.
And besides everything else, you can't make fun of Jacob's clothes when one of the top crazy assholes on your side is this guy:
http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/original/tuckercarlson.jpg
Posted by: Trondawg on June 9, 2006 09:01 AMI'm not sure the value of the discussion, but it knowing the exact will help get the actual event.
Posted by: mikeki on June 9, 2006 09:16 AMIt doesn't take a brain to reason that if Dean Logan was appointed by Ron Sims, they might be in the same ideological zone. If you were the Executive, would you appoint someone you know hates everything you stand for? Or someone you know who can do the job well, and might be *GHASP!* a democrat as well.
You all (yes, all Republicans) need to get over Dean Logan. He's not the one that stopped you in 2004. Christine Gregoire did. 129 more people (people that could legally vote) decided she would be better. Close? Oh Hell yeah. Stolen/Crooked? No.
If you can show me where Dean Logan was a political operative, like you call him Stefan, maybe I'll shut up. Or maybe I won't!
Posted by: Trondawg on June 9, 2006 09:19 AMCue the "Well that information could be manipulated" crowd.
Posted by: Trondawg on June 9, 2006 09:21 AMThat information is only meaningful if the camera's calendar/clock is set correctly, which isn't necessarily the case.
Posted by: Stefan Sharkansky on June 9, 2006 09:28 AMWhat if, SHOCK!, these aren't the pictures you've been looking for?!
Cue the back-tracking!
Give it up! You want a Democratic Boogeyman? Go after Norm Dicks. He's scary! Or Rahm Imanuel. That guy is crazy scary, with his sending dead fish and yelling on tables.
The Villification of Dean Logan, ends here.
Posted by: Trondawg on June 9, 2006 09:32 AMI find that hilariously ironic.
Posted by: Trondawg on June 9, 2006 09:34 AMI would like to see the pictures of Dean Logan hugging Dino Rossi or Mike McGavick. Where might those be?
Posted by: MNM on June 9, 2006 10:43 AMStefan is trying to tell me that because there isn't a (D) after Logan's name, and he walks/talks/sounds like a (D) in his personal life, that means we've been boondoggled.
Like I said, if you can show me Dean Logan the Partisan Political Operative, I'll shut up. But you can't, because he isn't. So it is you who are the people that can shut up.
Posted by: Trondawg on June 9, 2006 10:57 AMIF HE'S A POLITICAL ACTIVIST, PROVE IT! HIM BEING WITH A POLITICAL ACTIVIST DOESN'T MAKE HIM A POLITICAL ACTIVIST!
MNM is the stupidest person on the face of the Earth. That's right. You've beat out Paris Hilton.
Posted by: Trondawg on June 9, 2006 11:05 AMNo you won't. People like you never shut up.
Posted by: jimg on June 9, 2006 11:05 AMWow. Maybe you ARE just a child. I'll quit saying that you are stupid and hope that when you grow up in a few years you will gain some control of your emotions.
Posted by: MNM on June 9, 2006 11:11 AMMNM - You're right. I am a child. I'm 8 years old. I have a cold today and mommy wouldn't let me go to school.
Dan is the posterboy for the old Jedi saying, "Who is more foolish, the fool, or the fool who follows him?"
Posted by: Trondawg on June 9, 2006 11:19 AMSo the photos are from January 2004? That's even worse.
We have Dean Logan hobnobbing at a partisan function with Christine Gregoire - before the travesty of the 2004 election!!
I suppose if you had photos of George W Bush and Katherine Harris rubbing elbows together in January of 2000, you'd make nothing of it? You'd be silent?
Logan and Gregoire were lying together like dogs long before we all got fleas from the 2004 Gubernatorial tragedy.
You can't even prove that Gregoire and Logan were there at the same time. If we're going to assume that data from the pictures is accurate, the pictures were taken hours apart, so we can't assume there was any 'rubbing elbows' at this gathering.
I really don't think it's uncommon for low level officials to be at the same things that high level ones are. If Bush and Harris were at a thing, being photographed together, who cares? So much happened in Florida in 2000 outside of Harris' doings, it wasn't just her making Bush the winner.
And I really think alluding to Dean Logan being the Katherine Harris of King County is a stretch. Logan counted votes. What an asshole. Who does that?!
Posted by: Trondawg on June 9, 2006 11:29 AMYour language gives a good indication of your intelligence, upbringing, kindness, and consideration. It indicates none of the above.
The problem is that Logan counted illegal votes, and didn't count legal votes. Who does that?
The point of Stefan's post is that Dean Logan IS partisan - and therefore we should strip away the facade of his appointment and recognize it for what it really is. Dean Logan is a partisan Democrat. So what's the problem with having his be an ELECTED position? Democrats are the majority in King County, so what do you have to fear? You'll elect a Democrat - but Dean Logan probably isn't electable.
Posted by: Larry on June 9, 2006 11:36 AMYou're absolutely correct, I was wrong to compare Dean Logan to Katherine Harris.
Katherine Harris did her job and fulfilled her duties to the people of Florida.
Dean Logan totally botched several different elections to the point that 60% of Washington voters don't know who our Governor is, and they certainly don't believe Gregoire has any legitimacy.
Look at it this way: You probably believe that Gregoire won the 2004 election fair & square, right? So why didn't she win the first two counts? Dean Logan's incompetence. Why did the state pay for the manual recount and go through the court case? Dean Logan's incompetence. If Gregoire really had the most legal votes - where were they for three months????
You believe Gregoire won, but she's viewed as illegitimate and will never have any real power nor credibility - thanks to Dean Logan!!
The votes that were illegal, and verified to be illegal, were thrown out by Judge Bridges in the challenge ruling, were they not? There were three that were proven to be illegal. They were all Rossi votes. Sucka!
I think that because Dean Logan is partisan is not a reason to make the position a partisan elected position. Like the editorial says at the beginning of this post, what if the best person for the job is not good at campaigning, but is a hell of an elections chief? If you don't like that Dean Logan is there at the pleasure of Ron Sims, vote Ron Sims out. That's how the system works, and apparantly no one cares enough because Sims got re-elected not too long ago.
And Larry, I don't live in King County. My county, which of course must remain nameless, has an elected partisan auditor. He/She does many other things besides elections, but for a county as large as King, I would want one person handling just the elections, and entrust my elected Executive to choose the right person, and if they chose the wrong person, to replace the executive.
My language indicates I kick ass, but not as much as Jacob Metcalf.
Posted by: Trondawg on June 9, 2006 11:45 AMFor the 60% of Washington that doesn't know who the Governor is, please visit http://www.governor.wa.gov/ It has information, pictures, and much more information about the Governor.
Let me address this, because you're stupid and probably ugly and need it spelled out for you:
"You probably believe that Gregoire won the 2004 election fair & square, right? So why didn't she win the first two counts? Dean Logan's incompetence. Why did the state pay for the manual recount and go through the court case? Dean Logan's incompetence. If Gregoire really had the most legal votes - where were they for three months????"
Machines arent as accurate as humans. Machines can't use common sense in determining a ballot.
The state paid for it after the Democrats put up the money for it (the manual recount), and the outcome was reversed.
"Machines can't use common sense in determining a ballot."
That has to be one of the most ignorant and socialist comments I've ever heard in my life. Josef Stalin would be PROUD of you!
You've certainly let us know how much credibility you have....none.
Posted by: Larry on June 9, 2006 12:00 PMTrondawg, you buffoon. At no point have I said anything about Jacob Metcalf. All my comments were directed at you and only you.
And the "Jacob Metcalf could kick Mr. Cynical and Mike H's asses" comment... nice. And my dad can beat up your dad. First off, why would I want to get into a fight with him? I have no beef with him, and getting into fights was something I outgrew in middle school (save for one during a soccer game in 11th grade). Do you realise how much you sound like the snotty little spoiled now-it-all in the back of the class? I ask again, Are you in eighth grade or something?. Grow up, you immature little brat.
Besides, only an immature buffoon would say a website that doesn't exist would "be informative, and well put together."
Get a clue.
Posted by: Mike H on June 9, 2006 01:09 PMIf there was a ballot, with three choices, A, B, and C, and using the example of say a King County optical style ballot (fill in the bubble), and there was a ballot where the only marking on the ballot was a line through one of the bubbles. Now, a machine wouldn't count that as a vote, an undervote if you will, as it didn't meet the criteria set forth for the machine. But in such a case, a hand counter could determine the voter's intent, looking at the line (and especially if they did this for other items on the ballot, establishing a pattern) and seeing that the voter infact wanted to vote for choice B or whatever.
Machines can't use common sense in determining a ballot. They use Yes or No, 1 or 0, black or white. Humans can see in between those when the machines cant.
I don't think any of that means I'm not credible, sucker.
Posted by: Trondawg on June 9, 2006 01:15 PM"Machines can't use common sense in determining a ballot."
Josef Stalin never said it better. Those who count the votes have the power.
We already know what you are. You continue to spew filth and hatred. You could stop digging, but you don't even know you're in a hole.
Posted by: Larry on June 9, 2006 03:46 PMAs for the rest of you. Good god.
Posted by: Giffy on June 9, 2006 06:44 PMJames S.
Posted by: James S. on June 9, 2006 07:03 PMIn the 2004 election cycle I donated about 20 hours a week for six months and registered 300 to 1000 new Democratic voters here in Kitsap County. So I am damn glad to have Governor Gregoire in Olympia and every hour I stood out in the cold asking people if they needed to register to vote mattered in electing her. I registered more people than you tried to disenfranchise. Some of the time people asked me where the Republican were registering voters. I told them that I have never seen Republicans in Kitsap registering people. I gave people that wanted to vote Republican the mail in voter registration cards so they could mail it in themselves. I am damn proud of the high turnout in 2004. I deeply believe in democracy and electing good Democrats to Olympia and DC.
On the EXIF data being messed up is from my camera changing batteries.
Jacob Metcalf
Technology Director for Young Democrats of Washington
PS. Thanks for helping Goldie get the radio gig.
Posted by: Jacob Metcalf on June 9, 2006 08:29 PMHere's a better picture of Mr. Metcalf
Posted by: Patrick on June 9, 2006 08:37 PM
That will make some nice political fodder if ever you decide to elevate yourself to elected office.
I hope you enjoyed your 1st Amendment right.
Posted by: Elaine on June 9, 2006 09:10 PM
Posted by: Elaine on June 9, 2006 09:21 PM
Looks like he didn't even give you the courtesy of glance in the right direction -- oops!
Posted by: Patrick on June 9, 2006 09:30 PMJacob Metcalf has balls.
Posted by: Trondawg on June 9, 2006 09:33 PMI am offended. In fact you have offended America, that may have been your intent, if it was, you have succeeded. I don't appreciate your finger at a living icon of America and one of the terrorist targets. You weren't waving your finger at George Bush, you were waving your finger at George Washington, Abraham Lincoln, Ronald Reagan and every loyal American who sacrificed for your right to wave that finger without being arrested. Posted by: Elaine on June 9, 2006 09:42 PM
I pray for the innocent souls that died in the illegal wars in central America that Ronald Reagan illegally funded and those that died from HIV because he denied early funding fight the plague so he could fund the worthless tax handouts for the ultra rich. My generation is still paying off his greedy deficits debts. If Reagan never was president we would be off foreign oil by now. Reagan sold weapons to Iran and Saddam in order to illegally pay for an illegal war that slaughtered nuns and children. Reagan also gave weapons and US Tax money to Bin Ladin. I pray for peace for the innocent people that died because of the Reagan presidency.
Posted by: Jacob Metcalf on June 9, 2006 09:54 PMJacob Metcalf's out there getting it done.
Posted by: Trondawg on June 9, 2006 09:59 PMYou do realize that people can have legitimate political disagreements and still love this country. Do you really believe that we democrats work hard and advocate for our beliefs because we secretly hate America. Hell, if that were the case we could just move to Canada, or do nothing.
I recognize that you honestly believe what your advocating is best for the county. I would never question your patriotism or sincerity. I would hope you could do the same
Re Elaine: I noticed you did not mention Bill Clinton in you list of presidents. Perhaps you would care to share with us some example of how you showed him respect. Oh wait, that was different, because the arbiters of American values and patriotism didn’t like him.
Giffy: I supported Bill Clinton by recognizing him as President and I have never been photo'd flipping off the White House on the off chance that he would see me. And don't you think its a little stinky that I should have to prove my respect to Bill Clinton to off set Jacob's disrespect for the White House? Or was that a diversion?
Posted by: Elaine on June 9, 2006 10:32 PMWho knows some day I will probably run for state legislature.
That picture of him giving the White House the bird might just come in handy...
Posted by: Patrick on June 9, 2006 11:29 PMYou started off so well with your posts on this thread. They showed a much higher level of maturity than those bitter screeds of 2 years ago.
However, just the slightest scratch on your surface reveals that all of the ignorance and hate are still there:
"I loath George Bush BECAUSE I love America."
Terrific. Kind of like how Clinton loved Women, but felt free to have his way with any particular woman that he fancied?
"I do put America first. That is why I can't wait until we take back the US House and restore sanity Washington DC. That day in DC I saw the Constitution and I honor it much more than the Idiot Son of an Asshole that is occupying the White house."
Who is (assuming that your epithets in the last sentence refer to GWB), nevertheless, more intelligent than either Gore or Kerry, based on a comparison of college and postgraduate degrees and GPA, and Officer Candidate apitude test scores.
"I pray for the innocent souls that died in the illegal wars in central America that Ronald Reagan illegally funded..."
Illegal? Sorry, no. Contrary to a congressional resolution? Yes. And a good thing too, as that resolution was an unconstitutional infringement on the executive's constitutional authority over foreign affairs.
It's good to know that you're a man of prayer. By the way, do you ever pray for the countless innocent souls who died in Fidel Castro's gulags? Or those murdered by Che Guevara?
"and those that died from HIV because he denied early funding fight the plague so he could fund the worthless tax handouts for the ultra rich."
I agree with you there - George Soros isn't paying nearly enough taxes. Seriously though, you need to stop confusing tax rate cuts with tax cuts.
Consider the following:
(http://www.cato.org/pubs/pas/pa-261.html)
"In constant dollars, the richest 10 percent of Americans paid $177 billion in federal income taxes in 1980 but paid $237 billion in 1988. The remaining 90 percent of households paid $5 billion less in income taxes over this period."[52]
"My generation is still paying off his greedy deficits debts."
Right. Turning to the actual facts: (ibid)
"The Defense Buildup and the Deficit. Table 6 shows that the cumulative increase in defense spending from 1981 to 1989 ($806 billion) was larger than the entire cumulative increase in the budget deficit ($779 billion) in those years. That is, if defense spending had been held to the rate of inflation from 1981 to 1989, the total real deficit would have fallen in the 1980s rather than risen. It is also true that the decline in the military budget accounts for almost the entire fall in the deficit from 1988 to 1996."[26]
"If Reagan never was president we would be off foreign oil by now."
Cool. Would Carter have been the one to open ANWR, or would it have been Mondale? Maybe Bubba?
Again, the record is instructive: (ibid)
"OPEC's demise clearly contributed to the end of high inflation in the 1980s. But luck is not what caused the downfall of OPEC. Reagan's first official act as president was, by executive order, to immediately terminate oil price controls, a policy that instantly reenergized America's domestic production and exploration of oil.
"Moreover, the energy crisis in the 1970s was not purely a result of external factors beyond the control of politicians. With respect to dealing with OPEC, virtually every government energy policy in the 1970s--those under Nixon, Ford, and Carter-- exacerbated the energy crisis, from the windfall profits tax to energy price controls. Reagan hastened the end of the energy crisis by repealing all of these misguided policies."[37]
"Reagan sold weapons to Iran and Saddam in order to illegally pay for an illegal war that slaughtered nuns and children."
See previous comment on illegality.
"Reagan also gave weapons and US Tax money to Bin Ladin."
Are you referring to the support given to the Afghan freedom fighters, which enabled them to defeat the Soviet invasion?
"I pray for peace for the innocent people that died because of the Reagan presidency."
Do you ever say a prayer of thanks for the millions of innocents who didn't die, due to the defeat of the Soviet Union and the Sandinistas?
"I seriously doubt that anyone working that day was offended by me."
How do you know? Did you ask any of them?
"The capitol police did not even care."
You asked them? Do keep in mind that they are trained to give behavior like yours a wide berth, regardless of their personal feelings.
"I took that photo after I spendt an hour in silence at the Wall looking at the names that died in a war of lies in Vietnam."
You're right, Ho Chi Minh and the other North Vietnamese terrorists did tell a lot of lies.
But feeling as strongly as you do about the Vietnam War, wouldn't it have been more appropriate for you to have gone to Arlington National Cemetery, and directed that gesture at the grave of JFK, who was the one that got America into the war?
Did you spend any time looking at the names of the millions of innocent Cambodians murdered by the Khmer Rouge?
"I prayed for peace and rest for the souls of innocent Americans that died in the war of lies in Iraq."
Did you say any prayers for the souls of the innocent Americans that were murdered on 9/11 by terrorists who had received shelter and encouragement from Saddam?
"I support the office of the Presidency but I certainly do not support George Bush. I have no faith in his alleged election."
Wow, how far removed from reality is that viewpoint? Even the Washington Post agreed that GWB won the 2000 election, after examining the ballots.
Jacob, if you are really and truly interested in winning elections at the national level, you need to let go of the bitterness and hatred, and develop a balanced and realistic outlook.
Opposition of that sort would be a service indeed to America.
Posted by: ewaggin on June 10, 2006 02:19 AMjacob - your mama dresses you funny...;'}
Posted by: alphabet soup on June 10, 2006 10:15 AMProve that one, dumbass.
Let me guess, you're one of the 60% of Washingtonians who doesn't know who the governor is.
Posted by: Trondawg on June 10, 2006 12:47 PM"Prove that one, dumbass."
Your loquacity dazzles me...prove what?
"Let me guess, you're one of the 60% of Washingtonians who doesn't know who the governor is."
I'm one of the 60% of Washingtonians who understands that mistakes, errors, and deception by KC Elections rendered the result of the 2004 gubernatorial race unknowable.
Posted by: ewaggin on June 11, 2006 01:18 AM"Jacob Metcalf enjoys lighting little kids on fire with ants."
My, you are a witty one. Child abuse humor, that's a real knee-slapper.
Posted by: ewaggin on June 11, 2006 01:25 AM"It wasn't two 500 pound bombs dropped by F-16s that killed Al-Zarqawi, it was Jacob Metcalf coughing."
Oh, so that's what happened to Saddam's nerve gas.
Posted by: ewaggin on June 11, 2006 01:27 AM"The Villification of Dean Logan, ends here."
It is most unlikely that it will end until Logan cleans up his act.
Posted by: ewaggin on June 11, 2006 01:36 AM"The votes that were illegal, and verified to be illegal, were thrown out by Judge Bridges in the challenge ruling, were they not?"
They were not. There were over 1600 felon votes statewide in the 2004 general election. More to the point, there were 754 felon votes in King County.
"There were three that were proven to be illegal. They were all Rossi votes."
The felon votes (1600+) are a matter of record, and felon votes are, by definition, illegal.
The Dems had five felon voters testify at the election contest hearing. The secret ballot system used in Washington makes it impossible to determine which candidate a voter selected, but Judge Bridges took the word of these felons as to who they voted for. Four claimed to have voted for Rossi, and the other for Bennett. None of the five were from King County.
The revelations of KC Elections' errors, mistakes, and deception that have emerged since Judge Bridges' ruling have made a mockery of it.
In other words, errors, mistakes, and deception by KC Elections rendered the result of 2004 gubernatorial election unknowable.
Most people get this. That's why about 60% of Washington voters believe that Mrs Gregoire's claim to the office of governor is illegitimate.
Posted by: ewaggin on June 11, 2006 02:53 AM"Machines can't use common sense in determining a ballot. They use Yes or No, 1 or 0, black or white. Humans can see in between those when the machines cant."
Quite right. For example, the humans on the KC canvassing board were able to determine that a write-in for "Christine Rossi" and a "no" vote for "Christine Gregoire" were both actually "yes" votes for Mrs Gregoire.
Sweeeet! That's all the proof I need that humans do a better job than machines tabulating ballots.
Posted by: ewaggin on June 11, 2006 03:09 AM"Elaine you're a hyper-sensitive lady who needs a chill pill. Jacob's the man, and you're just some lady ranting on the internet."
Look who's talking.
"At the end of the day, he's made a statement for what he believes in. I think he's got some toughness for standing up for himself. You've just sat here, part of the 10st Fighting Keyboardists no doubt, regurgitating some of your right wing hate speech. Go nustle up to Ann Coulter and Sean Hannity and have a Republicanfest.
"Jacob Metcalf's out there getting it done."
That he is. For example, his extensive editing of the Wikipedia "Washington gubernatorial election, 2004" entry.
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington_gubernatorial_election,_2004)
Seriously now, all humor aside.
If you truly believe that "Jacob's the man", why are you doing all of his talking for him?
Posted by: ewaggin on June 11, 2006 03:32 AM