June 08, 2006
Freedom of the Press

The Washington Supreme Court heard oral arguments Thursday in the case involving KVI radio hosts John Carlson and Kirby Wilbur and whether their on-air discussions in favor of the I-912 gas tax repeal were reportable campaign donations.

Attorney Mike Vaska from Foster Pepper PLLC, which has a pecuniary interest in higher gas taxes and more government spending, argued for stricter regulation of radio shows which advocate political positions that jeopardize his bottom line:

Many radio stations are owned by big national companies, and Washington citizens need to know if those companies start trying to influence state voters, Vaska said.
I think I know what Vaska means. Kind of like when the big national Hearst company tried to influence state voters in the 2004 GOP Attorney General primary?

Posted by Stefan Sharkansky at June 08, 2006 11:30 PM | Email This
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1. I'm sure some here will regard this as trolling, but I think it both noteworthy and likely unknown to a some of your readers that the ACLU is arguing on behalf of Carlson and Wilbur.

Posted by: David Wright on June 8, 2006 11:17 PM
2. Vaska was Rob McKenna's "Republican" primary opponent? Endorsed by the P-I?

Glad to see that my vote got it right and the P-I was wrong... again.

Posted by: Hoplophile on June 9, 2006 04:16 AM
3. David,

Psst. We already knew.

Posted by: pbj on June 9, 2006 06:35 AM
4. ACLU is arguing on behalf of Carlson and Wilbur.

A broken clock is right twice a day.

Posted by: swassociates on June 9, 2006 06:40 AM
5. Perhaps we should look at the influence of "Big" attorney businesses like Foster Pepper PLLC. Take a look at their PDC filings and the amount they give to left wing causes (and candidates).

They are also "tight" with Washington Association of Cities (and Counties) who also support higher gas (and other) taxes.

It is the old "watch the money", to see why they have taken this to court.

Posted by: DeckBoss on June 9, 2006 07:03 AM
6. Well, when Hearst editorializes, it's different because THEY KNOW BETTER for us...they are the the self-appointed intellectual elites, and through their superior knowledge and benevolent view, we would all fare better if we would just listen to them and shut up.

Posted by: Shaun on June 9, 2006 07:10 AM
7. Shouldn't the Olympian (aka the al qaeda daily paper) have to register the space for the 20,000 support letters it published for the dishonorable Judge Chris Wickham while NOT publishing letters supporting any other candidate during his campaign[s] to run for judge?

Repeat: There is 5k+ in starting campaign funds available to anyone running against this activist or the other activist judges in Thurston in the next election.

Posted by: Andy on June 9, 2006 07:11 AM
8. Mike Vaska what a tough guy, what a man, what a big boy......

Starbucks drinking Coward Loiyer gets a coward county prosecutor from an island and a coward judge from hicksville.....

Just 'cause you wimp loiyers can get a judge and a court order does not make it right....

The Perverter Vaska is right up there with all the other current loiyer perverters that are inventing arguments that have no business in the courts. We see land being taken away and given to another private entity or being condemned only stop development we see McCocaine Finemess assaulting political speech and we see big boys like Mikey hiding behind a stack of yellow legal pads shooting rubber banded stacks of 11 x 14 papers at us.

Way to go tough guy Mike!!

Mike does Joel Connelly vote from your vacation home?

Who gives a crock about the ALCU??? If they "cared" they would have driven a truck load of loiyers to Thurston County and assaulted that judge's court room last year!!! This is just window dressing to try and undo Mike the big boy Vaska's campaign tactic so it does not back fire on Mike's friends at the PI and Times, Jean Enerson, Dan "Big Hair" Lewis or Steve Rabile on a future initiative. When the last decent lawyer comes along and finds a judge in Walla Walla to order the campaign to report the value of the Times and PI advocacy reporting on the campaign to enslave all white people as part of wealth transfer based on the Seattle School Districts year 2007 definition of racism. After all Mike Vaska would want something like that to pass without any hindrance of a pesky precedent of shutting down the press!!! Right Mike?? (Note he would be exempted by the fine print because he would have donated enough money to the "correct" groups and would help fund the new "productivity camps".)

The PDC folded up and ran from this as fast as they could and are darn thankful that they really did not have to enforce this Soviet Stalinist made up garbage! We have a moral obligation to not follow any rulings like this ever. Got to the pit of H E double hockey sticks Mike, ACLU and the rest of you loiyers.


Posted by: Col. Hogan on June 9, 2006 07:19 AM
9. It all started with "campaign finance reform" laws which limited citizens' ability to spend their own money as they see fit to promote their political ideas. This essentially gutted the first amendment. It is all downhill from there. The repeal of the bill of rights will not stop, because our representatives are spineless self-promoters, more interested in re-election than upholding the constitution and our freedoms. If we don't vote them out wholesale, or our children will never know the freedoms which we thought were our inalienable rights.

The only question we should ask of those running for office is "What will you do to insure my freedom?" Instead, most of us ask "How much will you take from some other guy to give to me?" Those who ask the latter question deserve no liberty. I sometimes fear there may be too few of us left to resist the temptation of a life of infantile dependency on big brother. Oh well, as the ancient Athenians found out, it was nice while it lasted. Maybe in another 2500 years someone will try democracy again.

Posted by: Steve on June 9, 2006 07:50 AM
10. Messrs. Carlson and Wilbur DID go beyond normal advocacy into organizing the initiative campaign over the airwaves. They were soliciting donations and telling people how to get petitions and where they could sign them. They were over-the-air campaign workers, not just opinion-slingers. The original court ruling was correct.

Posted by: Legast on June 9, 2006 09:05 AM
11. Legast,

That is no different than what the print media does every day for every liberal cause.


Posted by: Andy on June 9, 2006 09:28 AM
12. Legast,

What is normal advocacy? Is there something called abnormal advocacy, or too much advocacy?
Is there anything ambiguous about "Congress shall make no law ... abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press"

"...we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor. Oops, not our Fortunes because using our money to promote our political idea of separating from England would be a reportable campaign donation - J. Hancock

And telling people over the airwaves where they could sign petitions! The nerve. "The British are coming...but I can't tell you where or when lest I violate the campaign donation laws" - P. Revere

Posted by: Steve on June 9, 2006 10:55 AM
13. Legast, in October-2005, didn't the PI proclaim that they would run an editorial against I-912 EVERY DAY until the election?

Isn't this a similar form of advocacy as well?

Posted by: SouthernRoots on June 9, 2006 11:22 AM
14. Don't for a second forget that that Washington State Supreme Court is nothing more than an extension of the liberal political machine at the top of the state's judiciary. Right and wrong will not matter in this case. The law and state Constitution will not matter in this case. It will boil down to how mush suppression of the minority party can be codified into law without public rebellion and outrage. I would expect any ruling to include bold new interpretations of law and everyone will be quite surprised with the conclusions. Democrats will be giggly and Republicans will be stunned.

I'm not optimistic!

Posted by: MJC on June 9, 2006 11:41 AM
15. 1 I am not too sure how NPR's local advocacy on KUOW (Seattle) and KUPS (Tacoma) differ from what is alleged against Messengers Wilbur and Carlson
2 Prior to his reelection as King County Executive, KUOW had the "Ron Sims" show each week and tossed softball questions to Mr Sims
3 Mr Vaska's postions when he ran for State Attorney General were right, that the AGs office needed to be run as a business and due to the mismanagement Washington had lost a lot of cases and fines
4 I am not really too sure if the PI's article about not McKenna not practing law is relevant
5 Most corporate CFOs (Chief Financial Officers) do little actual accounting since they have competent people under them
6 The CFOs are more directed to setting an agenda and seeing that it is followed versus the nuts and bolts.
7 The CLO (Chief Legal Officer) of Washington should really be more of a manager and visionary than a practicing attorney
8 The previous CLO was smart enough to realized that she lacked the experience inhouse for the smoking case, so she subbed it out to Steve Berman
9 Too bad she lacked the expertise to manage her staff

Posted by: Green Lake Mark on June 9, 2006 12:35 PM
16. hope the radio waves prevail; all i can think about is the 2004 election and that judge's comments as well as what will eminate from that renowned supreme court judge called "crash-boom-hiccup"

Posted by: Jimmie-howya-doin on June 9, 2006 01:35 PM
17. If there is real justice, Wilbur and Carlson should prevail. However, if the Supreme Kangaroo Court rules it the other way, that is all the more reason we need to replace those black robes of the Supremes up for election in November. The stench on the bench is making me wretch (along with Deanron and the King County Elections Frauds) !

Posted by: KS on June 9, 2006 10:44 PM
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