June 11, 2006
Congressman Inslee Responds.  Sort Of

In this post I published an open letter to my own Congressman, Jay Inslee, asking him why he thought that the Democratic House leader, Nancy Pelosi, was fit to be speaker, and possibly president.  After three weeks, not having received a reply, I wrote this follow-up post, giving more reasons to doubt Congresswoman Pelosi's fitness for either job.

Shortly after that post appeared, I finally received a reply from Congressman Inslee.  Here's my original question:

What, in your opinion, makes Congresswoman Pelosi fit to be speaker, and possibly president?

And here's what Congressman Inslee (or, more likely, one of his staffers) wrote in reply:

Thank you for contacting me with your concerns about members of the House leadership.  I appreciate hearing from you.

I applaud your interest in federal issues and will be sure to keep your thoughts in mind.  It is great that we have people in this country who are so actively engaged in helping make public policy.

He then continued with a laundry list of what he considers his own accomplishments in Congress.

He did not mention Pelosi by name anywhere in the entire reply.  From this incident, I draw the following conclusion:  It may be possible to argue that Congresswoman Pelosi is fit to be speaker, and perhaps president, but it is not easy.  But the House Democratic caucus picked Pelosi for their leader anyway.

Cross posted at Jim Miller on Politics.

(If you would like to know more about Pelosi, let me recommend these two posts, one describing her district, and the other describing her machine politics background.)

Posted by Jim Miller at June 11, 2006 09:41 AM | Email This
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1. You've been SPAMMED. That's just an automated reply. No person actually read your question.

Posted by: Mike S on June 11, 2006 11:12 AM
2. News flash, Jim: A congressional representative's job is to represent the interest of his or her district and the nation generally.

The job description does not include answering inane argumentative queries, irrespective of whether come from constitutents.

I would be rather irritated, in fact, if my representative or his staff were wasting their time engaging in such sophomoric partisan jousting.

Posted by: bartelby on June 11, 2006 12:33 PM
3. If you were a knat Jim, His Lordship Inslee would swat you away. But you do not even register as a knat to Him. You do not exist to his Lordship except as a statistic with which to pull money into his district and thus into his pocket.

How do those chains feel Jim?

Posted by: Jericho on June 11, 2006 12:39 PM
4. Funny, I think most of us here at SP feel the same way about Bartelby as Inslee apparently does about Jim.

Posted by: Huh? on June 11, 2006 12:49 PM
5. Apparently David Goldstein was once pardoned by former President Clinton:

Commutations

1. Benjamin Berger - convicted of conspiracy, embezzlement, and wire fraud and mail fraud
2. Ronald Henderson Blackley
3. Bert Wayne Bolan
4. Gloria Libia Camargo
5. Charles F. Campbell
6. David Ronald Chandler
7. Lau Ching Chin
8. Donald R. Clark
9. Loreta De-Ann Coffman
10. Derrick Curry
11. Velinda Desalus
12. Jacob Elbaum
13. Linda Sue Evans
14. Loretta Sharon Fish
15. Antoinette M. Frink
16. David Goldstein

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_pardoned_by_Bill_Clinton

Posted by: pbj on June 11, 2006 01:24 PM
6. Clinton Pardoned Goldstein

Source: http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2001/2/23/190239.shtml

NEW YORK (UPI) � The U.S. attorney's probe of the pardon of fugitive financier Marc Rich has expanded to the four presidential pardons of four Jewish men convicted of stealing $40 million from taxpayers for a fake school.

Mary Jo White, U.S. attorney for the Southern District of New York, is investigating a possible link between the last-minute pardon by former President Bill Clinton of four New Yorkers and votes for Hillary Clinton's Senate election last November.

Kalmen Stern, David Goldstein, Benjamin Berger and Jacob Elbaum were serving prison sentences of up to 6.5 years for bilking $40 million worth of student Pell grants and loans from government sources for a phony school in the Hasidic community of New Square, N.Y.

Sen. Clinton said that although she attended a White House meeting in which the pardon issue was raised, "I never made any view known."

Last month, she refused to talk about the controversial pardons of the four New York Hasidic Jews by her husband.

Of course, since liberals automaticaly dismiss NewsMax, here it is from the gray lady herself (That is code for the New York Time for those libs too high on drugs to understand):


4 Who Got Leniency Defrauded U.S. for Religion
By RANDAL C. ARCHIBOLD

Source:
http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F50E17FB3F5B0C758EDDA80894D9404482&n=Top%2fReference%2fTimes%20Topics%2fPeople%2fC%2fClinton%2c%20Hillary%20Rodham

Four men who had sentences commuted by Pres Bill Clinton in his final days in office had conspired to defraud government out of funds in form of Pell Grants for indigent students at Brooklyn seminary; in truth, there was no school and there were no students, and money went to seven men and religious community of New Square, in Rockland County, NY; four who had sentences commuted are Kalman Stern, David Goldstein, Jacob Elbaum, and Benjamin Berger; Chaim Berger is fighting extradition in Israel and whereabouts of two others, Nathan Adler and Avrum David Friesel, is unknown; critics of commutation say it was politically motivated to benefit Hillary Rodham Clinton, who had courted support in Hasidic community during her Senate campaign

Posted by: pbj on June 11, 2006 01:32 PM
7. Hmm. Is there something there? Could this be the very same Goldstein we see making an Equine Anal fool of himself day in and day out?

We do know that he came to the area from the east coast, so could it be the same guy? Could our very own David Goldstein be a Clinton Admin flunkie ex-con fleeing bad east Coast press?

Posted by: pbj on June 11, 2006 01:39 PM
8. You think Inslee will support Moonbat Murtha for House leadership, too?


Posted by: MES on June 11, 2006 01:42 PM
9. If it is the same Goldstein will someone please liberate the people's money from his purse and return it. In other words rob the tyrant, in a gentlemanly sort of way.

Posted by: Jericho on June 11, 2006 01:44 PM
10. We really don't know anything about the Goldstein we see ranting on his blog. Where was he born? Who were his parents? Were they rich or poor? What did his father do for a living? Where did he grow up (some argue he never really did)? Where did he attend highscool? Did he graduate college?


Posted by: pbj on June 11, 2006 01:55 PM
11. The comments about David Goldstein should be made on a different post.

Posted by: Jim Miller on June 11, 2006 02:43 PM
12. Can you show a provable link between our own Goldstein and the one mentioned in the article? If not, this is a BS post. "David Goldstein" is not an uncommon name.

Posted by: Huey on June 11, 2006 03:40 PM
13. The comments about David Goldstein should be made on a different post.

Right you are, Jim! That would be the unsubtantiated wingnut mud-slinging post; one should be coming up soon.

This thread is reserved for congressional heckling via silly hypothetical questions.

BTW, I'm looking forward to reading Dave Reichert's analysis of Denny Hastert's qualifications for the same position. How does he feel about Hastert's lack of executive experience, something you feel is crucial for this role?

Posted by: scottd on June 11, 2006 03:56 PM
14. Jim, fair enough. How about creating a post where we can debate whether the pardoned Goldstein is the same as Seattle's own Goldy.

scottd, why not ask Rep Reichert yourself? I know that I emailed him some time ago expressing my displeasure on some of his votes. It took a few weeks before I got my auto reply saying something like, "thank you for your interest in federal issues. blah, blah, blah." The response Jim got from Rep Inslee is not surprising. My guess is that unless you're a big donor, you won't get a personal reply, even from a staffer.

Posted by: Obi-Wan on June 11, 2006 04:07 PM
15. scottd, why not ask Rep Reichert yourself?

I thought the answer to that would be clear from the context of my comment. I assume that Reichert and his staff have better things to do with their time than respond to silly flamebait questions. Inslee apparently does, so kudos to him.

Jim apparently doesn't understand this -- he seems to think it is significant that Inslee doesn't care to speculate on Nancy Pelosi's qualifications to be president.

Posted by: scottd on June 11, 2006 04:31 PM
16. Huey,

I never said I could. Are you saying you can prove isn't? What do you know about Goldstein? What do any of us know about him? Does anyone have a biography of him?

Posted by: pbjisn't on June 11, 2006 04:44 PM
17. Here's an idea: If you correspond with your elected reps, how about asking substantive policy questions.

Such as: Why does Dave Reichert hate stem cell research?
[http://www.house.gov/reichert/press.05/5.24.05.stem.shtml]

Since I'm sure Dave is terribly busy preparing for his MASSIVE FUNDRAISING visit from G.W. BUSH[1], perhaps some of the regular crew here can answer on Dave's behalf.

[1] BTW, Jim, how many public audiences or real questions do you expect our Beloved Leader to be fielding during his Pacific NW fund-trolling visit on behalf of Reichert?

Posted by: bartelby on June 11, 2006 04:51 PM
18. Can I prove he isn't? Most of us with a smattering of logic training don't try to prove negatives.

Posted by: Huey on June 11, 2006 05:03 PM
19. Well Huey,

So you are saying you cannot prove that isn't the same Goldstein. Thanks for clearing that up.

Posted by: pbj on June 11, 2006 05:38 PM
20. pbj: What are you, stupid or just deliberately misleading?

I'm going with the latter (although it could be both). You obviously have the skills to Google on Goldstein's name. I'd be surprised if your research didn't turn up articles like this:

http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3a6b6bea461f.htm

Here we learn that the Goldstein who had his sentence commuted was 54 in Jan. 2001. That would make him at least 59 today. Our man in Seattle is in his early 40's.

So, were you too lazy to look that up yourself, or were you just hoping no one else would bother?

Posted by: scottd on June 11, 2006 06:10 PM
21. "...how about asking substantive policy questions."

Or asking Inslee if he's so hip on abortion rights, why we can't perform a retro-active one on bartleboob?

Posted by: alphabet soup on June 11, 2006 06:12 PM
22. Bartleby sputters:

Such as: Why does Dave Reichert hate stem cell research?

And tries to support that absrdity with the following link:

[http://www.house.gov/reichert/press.05/5.24.05.stem.shtml]

And one wonders why we call them the loony liberal left.

There is nothing in his statement that says he hates stem cell research. Because someone does not vote in the affrimative for the harvesting of human life for the purpose of research does not mean he is against research. He probalby supports ADULT stem cell research like nearly everyone does. Adult stem cell reserach actually HAS resulted in theraputic remedies while EMBRYONIC stem cells have acheived nothing.

Just another case of obfuscation and scare tactics because the truth is too damning to use.

Posted by: Eyago on June 11, 2006 06:20 PM
23. As always, I'm charmed by your flattering wink and tongue wag across the bar, Soup.

If only you could manage to engage real ideas and information, rather than crude ad hominem barbs, we might have something to talk about.

I suppose that's as quixotic as hoping that Stefan might swear off the wink-and-nod slurs against queers and transgendered folk whilst he maintains he's a socially tolerant laissez-faire conservative.

Posted by: bartelby on June 11, 2006 06:30 PM
24. Oh, you mean like insulting Jim because he has the unmitigated gall to think that he would actually contact his Representative? You mean like that, dip?

Or do you mean like posting off-topic three times in one post, dumba$$? Like that?

I would remind you that it is you who refer to them as "queers", not the Shark. Another fine showing of that (in)famous "liberal tolerance.

FOAD bartleboob...

Posted by: alphabet soup on June 11, 2006 06:52 PM
25. Scottd,

How do you know how old he is? What proof do you have of that?

Posted by: pbj on June 11, 2006 07:27 PM
26. pbj: Geez, you are an idiot. Do you think I would post such an easily researched fact without first verifying it? On second thought, I suppose you would.

Goldy's age is easy to research, he's had plenty of press lately. Here's a link to a Jan 17, 2003 story in The Olympian:

http://theolympian.com/home/specialsections/Legislature/20030117/9913.shtml

I found the link in, of all places, Goldy's blog. Excerpt from that story:

The sponsor is David Goldstein, a 39-year-old Seattle technical writer and software entrepreneur...

There are plenty of other sources for this information. Ask Sharkansky if you need more verification.

Now really, did it never occur to you that there might be more than one David Goldstein? Or, do you just habitually slime people without bothering to check things out?

Posted by: scottd on June 11, 2006 07:55 PM
27. Scottd, didnt i just hear Goldy(on the radio) say he was 46 years old?????? He also cut off his only poster Roger Rabbit !!!

Posted by: Chris on June 11, 2006 08:02 PM
28. So, because a liberal paper reports his age based upon Goldstein's response, we are supposed to believe them? Do you have a birth certificate? We don't have any information on where Goldstein came from. He shows up one day and grabs some headlines by grabbing onto Eyman's coattails.

Posted by: pbj on June 11, 2006 08:04 PM
29. Somthing is fishy. How could he be 39 in the article from 2003 and now be 46?

Posted by: pbj on June 11, 2006 08:21 PM
30. Whatever you say, pbj. Why don't you call him on the air right now and expose him as the guy Clinton granted clemency? Think of the glory that could be yours!

Posted by: scottd on June 11, 2006 08:34 PM
31. Everyone here should pick a topic near and dear to them and write to their Congressional representatives.

After a period of time (hopefully shorter than what Jim has gone through) we should receive responses.

It might be interesting to know which representatives respond with something more than the standard form letter.

Which ones are the most creative?

Without making large campaign donations, how does the commoner get their attention?

Posted by: SouthernRoots on June 11, 2006 08:37 PM
32. I would but Drudge is on right now. Besides, if he would lie about it to the press do you really think he'd be honest to me on the air?

Posted by: pbj on June 11, 2006 08:40 PM
33. Besides, if he would lie about it to the press do you really think he'd be honest to me on the air?

Of course not, but you'd still get the chance to nail him with your carefully researched evidence. Besides, once you called him out in public, everyone would look into and you could probably get him fired. Think of the fun that would be!

BTW, check out SP's voter database. They have four David Goldsteins registered in Seattle. Do you suppose they were all pardoned by Clinton?

Posted by: scottd on June 11, 2006 09:05 PM
34. You think I want to get him fired? Heck no. I WANT him spewing vintage Goldstein 24 hours a day! No better way to assure complete and total Democrat defeat in November!

It is amazing what you crazy liberals will take on face value as long as someone tows the liberal line.

I still think something is suspcious.

Posted by: pbj on June 11, 2006 09:18 PM
35. Drudge is on KVI 570 AM right now. He had Ann Coulter on earlier. What a gal! And a sweet voice too! Not some nasty old Pee Wee Herman with sticky palms from the theater.

Posted by: pbj on June 11, 2006 09:20 PM
36. Scottd - Of "the four David Goldsteins registered in Seattle", none of them are 39. They are 29, 45 (46), 43, and 43 (44).

Posted by: SouthernRoots on June 11, 2006 09:26 PM
37. The thing I love about Soup is that you don't even need to write your own punchlines. He sez:

I would remind you that it is you who refer to them as "queers", not the Shark. Another fine showing of that (in)famous "liberal tolerance.

Uh, Soup, "queer" has not been a pejorative for anyone other than the knuckle-dragging set for, oh, 15 years or so:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queer_Nation


Posted by: bartelby on June 11, 2006 09:45 PM
38. SoRoots: Who said he was 39? I cited a Jan 17, 2003 story that said he was 39. That would make him 42 or 43 now.

BTW, how many of those guys do you suppose Clinton pardoned? pbj's entire case rests on the fact that Clinton commuted the sentence of someone named David Goldstein.

Posted by: scottd on June 11, 2006 09:52 PM
39. Bartelby an old "Bug Chaser" like you ought to know what is pejorative is.

Posted by: Huh? on June 11, 2006 10:08 PM
40. Scottd,

You are really slow aren't you? You totally missed my point. It wasn't that Goldstein necessarily is that person (though you haven't proven he isn't), it is that we don't really know anything about him since he moved here from the East Coast (from what I recall that is where it was reported he came).

And if the information is "out there" I certainly cannot find it.

Where did he grow up? What did his parents do for a living? What highschool did he attend? What college did he attend? Why did he leave the East Coast - was he fleeing for some reason perhaps?

You do not know for a fact he is not that Goldstein or that his real name even IS Goldstein. He doesn't seem to offer up much of a bio than "I am a hell raiser".

It certainly is an odd coincidence isn't it?

Posted by: pbj on June 11, 2006 10:19 PM
41. Come on Huh? - you don't want to spoil bartleboob's "perfect burn", do ya? After all, how many times can you mortally wound someone by pointing out that a pejorative isn't necessarily a pejorative because wiki-wacky says so?!

bartleboob needs this stunning victory - he regularly cruises SoundPolitics looking to show us "what fer" and he regularly gets his whiney butt kicked.

What a maroon!

Posted by: alphabet soup on June 11, 2006 10:33 PM
42. Barteleboob,

Thank you for contacting us with your concerns about the usage of the word queer. We appreciate hearing from you.

While I applaud your keen interest in the panache of a word like queer and everything associated with queerness in general, I will be sure to keep your thoughts in mind. It is great that we have liberal people in this country like you who are so actively engaged in helping make sure we all place trend before substance. We can forget questioning Pelosi's qualifications -- Bartleboob's punk culture is more fashionable.

Posted by: Amused by pretentious dipshits on June 11, 2006 10:36 PM
43. This has been the most odd set of posts I've ever read on Sound Politics... who let the 4yr olds out of bed?

Posted by: Cheryl on June 11, 2006 11:39 PM
44. Cheryl,

Hun, are you still up? Shouldn't you be in bed hun?

Posted by: pbj on June 12, 2006 12:03 AM
45. Jim--i'm not surprised at the non-responsive answers to questions politicians would choose to avoid; just like not taking a question from the audience, ignoring the troublemaker's waving hand; however, i too usually receive generalized, non-responsive answers to my e-mails from all my politicians; interestingly, i get specific answers from non-local pol's when i praise them on something i like; it's frustrating, especially when i'm expecting an answer knowing the pol is against the topic i'm for; always mushy; never firm and politely disagreeing with me--at least i'd respect that; almost like voting--will it be counted? lost? ignored? no wonder most civil people are apathetic; they only seem to respond to the screams of so-called persecuted groups;

Posted by: Jimmie-howya-doin on June 12, 2006 09:50 AM
46. Well actually pbj, I was referring to the liberal postings and the fact that just about every post was completely off-topic - oh wait, it seems it was YOU that took them off-topic... Can you possibly explain what it is that a Clinton pardon of a guy sharing the name of the biggest H'ASS in the NW has to with the incompetence of Jay Inslee and Botox Nancy?

Posted by: Cheryl on June 12, 2006 11:07 AM
47. Did the guy share the name or is it the guy? What do we know about Goldstein other than he is a liberal blowhard who now has a radio show even though the vast right wing conspiracy is supposed to be suppressing liberal speech?

I don't really know what it has to do with Inslee, though. Maybe Clinton also pardoned him.

Posted by: pbj on June 12, 2006 10:22 PM
48. Ah didn't want to pardon Goldstein--Momma made me...

Al Gore in '08!

Posted by: WJC on June 13, 2006 08:13 PM
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