August 01, 2006
Debate, Schmebate
From Cox and Forkum.....

Posted by Matt Rosenberg at August 01, 2006
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1. People might draw the wrong conclusions, you know!
2. Cox and Forkum are by far and away the best political cartoonists in the nation right now.
3. LOL!!! Talk about speaking truth to those who keep excusing Islamfascist hate crimes!
4. ......and everything Sound Transit has anything to do with is on budget and ahead of schedule ....and KC Elections has received an award from blah, blah, blah and yada, yada, yada and who gives a flying *&%)#& anymore about what the msm has to say...
5. Is this right? I thought the guy had converted to Christianity?
6. People used the Kyle Huff murders to justify whichever political position they wanted to espouse, whether pro or anti-gun, pro-strict or liberal upbringing of children.
Now those with a political agenda on the left are pointing to Afzal Haq's killing spree as proof of America's failure to reach out to the muslim world, while those with a political agenda on the right are using this as proof that all of the world's 1 billion muslims are blood thirty fundamentalists bent on the annihalation of the Judeo-Christian world.
Get over yourselves. The guy was a certifiable nutjob, and Haq's actions are no more of an indictment of or a justification for US foreign policy than, say, the white supremicists at Ruby Ridge, Idaho were for US policies towards apartheid South Africa.
It really is disengenuous to try to use him to justify your pet political position, whether on the left or the right or any other part of the political spectrum.
7. Spudster, I don't think you've 'gotten it'. This cartoon is 'outing' those who are in denial about Islam-inspired hate crimes. It has nothing to do with what you say. One side is saying "Oh, it's just some guy killing people>" The other side is noticing the very noticeable facts surrounding the case--that this guy is labelling himself very pointedly a muslim and displaying anti-Israel, anti-semitic feelings, while shooting up the place and killing. I don't know why that must be hidden.
8. Perhaps they were his friends and the bullets just happened to hit them... like happened here
http://www.thenewstribune.com/news/local/story/5993896p-5267723c.html
9. Go to michellemalkin.com and listen to the Kevin Cosgrove phone tape from 9-11. It is a stark reminder of what we're up against and why we must elect leaders who will not coddle terrorism even one little bit.
10. History 101...
On August 1st 1801, the United States ship ENTERPRISE seized the Tripolitan corsair TRIPOLI, during the Tripolitan War...and whom, 205 years ago were we fighting this war against you might ask? You guessed it...ISLAMIC TERRORISTS!
After 205 years how much longer will it take, to figure this one out!!!
11. (spudster) "...failure to reach out to the muslim world..." hey--as an American, especially since 9-11, i don't give a tinker's cuss about "reaching out" to ANY world anymore; we've all had plenty of time to figure each other out; people/countries do what they want and intend; stop the dancing around and denial; the world hates us anyway; they take our food, aid and dollars and still show contempt for us; time to become the stern but hardened (and cheap) friend to the world, not some soft balless country of appeasers who repeatedly get victimized; and--if you don't like it here, go now to that 'paradise' stinkhole country you think is better;
12. If I were an American Jew- I'd arm myself!!
Leftist progressives are preparing another Krystal Nacht.
13. Jimmie-
I say that to all my pals, why do we give a flying fig what the rest of the world thinks of us. None has yet to come up with a good answer. I also ask them to name a country that is more liveable, has a comparable cost of living and that would let you immigrate and eventiually naturalize. Goose eggs!
This is the best country in the world and we damn well better start protecting in from outside as well as within.
That starts by calling a terrorist a terrorist, an illegal and illegal...
14. Is this right? I thought the guy had converted to Christianity?
Larry-
Well, sort of. The guy had started attending a Bible study in the Tri-Cities untill a couple of months ago, and the guy leading it said he was seeking a new beginning in Christianity because he was tired of the hate and intolerance being spewed by much of Islam. And he was baptised as well earlier this year. Not long after he was baptised, though, he apparently quit attending the Bible study, and virtually no one involved with it heard from him untill just before the shooting.
But, according to the witnesses and the tapes of the guy's own calls to 911, he was declaring himself a Muslim and doing this because of his hatred for Isreal and their actions, as well as our actions in Iraq.
Maybe he was just trying to cover all his bases just in case, maybe he wasn't that serious to begin with, maybe he never truly gave his heart to Christ and decided to go back to Islam... who knows. Right now, he calls himself a Muslim, not a Christian, and I think what he's calling himself now is what matters.
15. Good answer, Mike H. Thanks for clearing that up.
16. Well this is what the left gets as they demand PC use of terminology. No responsibility for actions of individuals or groups. Appeasement is the word for the day. History shows that does not work. Yet appeasement is rearing its ugly head as it did in the 1930's. Look at what happened then.
17. Spudster:
Before you throw around Ruby Ridge as an example, you need to educate yourself about what actually happened at Ruby Ridge. Or do you know what happened and are attempting to rewrite history in order to blame the victims?
18. Thank you, Elaine. Spudster gave himself away as a moonbat with that remark. His oh-so-balanced and nuanced positions melted away with that mistake.
19. When a Christian goes off the deep-end he/she looks something like a pacificist Jesus type Mennonite (turn the other cheek). When a Muslim goes off the deep-end he/she looks something like the crazy killer Muhammad type Sunni (shoot the other bastard in the cheek first) in Seattle. I'd rather have the Mennonite in my community any day.