The P-I editorial board comments on the foiled terrorism plot, concluding:
despite bold promises of success in a "war on terrorism," we may well have to learn to live with the prospect of terrorism as long as social and economic conditions in the world are ripe for exploitation by violent fanatics.The editorial does not identify those "social and economic conditions in the world". Nor does it explain why the people who react to these conditions with uncontrollable fits of mass murder are disproportionately middle class men born in Britain, Canada or the United States to Pakistani immigrant parents. Posted by Stefan Sharkansky at August 11, 2006 10:29 AM | Email This
But the indications of that didn't stop only in 1990. What Tebbit saw in 1990 continues today.
Here is some articles about what happened on Tuesday.
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'Traitor' Sajid battles against the crowd
By Staff Sports Reporter
BOLTON-born Sajid Mahmood won his battle with a
section of the Headingley crowd to play a key role in England's emphatic third npower Test victory over Pakistan.
The Lancashire seamer became a target for a particular corner of the ground, who labelled him a traitor because his parents were both born in Pakistan before emigrating to England in the 1970s.
http://www.thisislancashire.co.uk/sport/sportheadlines/display.var.870046.0.sajid_mahmood_battles_against_the_crowd.php
http://tinyurl.com/hj3ry
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/cricket/england/4775149.stm
During England's Test victory over Pakistan on Tuesday he was targeted by some fans who accused him of betraying his Pakistani heritage.
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The British Pakistani community may live within
England, but they don't consider themselves of
England.
Sajid Mahmood WAS BORN IN ENGLAND so it is right and proper for him to play for England. So the real traitors were those who were calling him traitor.
For someone to get a response like that in front of a crowd of Cricket fans in England, shows the problem that Lord Tebbit was talking about 16 years ago with the "Cricket Test".
The disloyality of the British of Pakistani descent doesn't stop at Cricket. They are the source of the "homegrown" terrorism that the
English faces today.
And that puts England into a Sticky Wicket By George.
Translation: It's our fault.
Posted by: Bill Cruchon on August 11, 2006 10:56 AMYeah, Osama bin Laden: Pauper from the wretchedly poor nation of Saudi Arabia.
Posted by: Frank Black on August 11, 2006 10:58 AMWe should all just give up and hide in our closets and hope the Islamic Imams stop preaching hatred and that terror just magically disappears.
Posted by: Jeff B. on August 11, 2006 11:06 AMAn example he gave was what he saw at a cricket match in Great Britain between their national team and that of Pakistan. He saw a great number of British citizens of Pakistani descent rooting not for England but for Pakistan. And they weren't all naturalized first generation British citizens, but third and fourth generations as well.
How, he wondered, can these people be considered
British citizens and take part in the responsibilities of British citizenship, when they themselves don't even really think of themselves as British as indicated by them rooting for a foreign team instead their own national team?
And what are the consequences for British society of having a significant segment of its population that will not integrate itself into British Culture but instead identifies itself more with a foreign country than their own?
This "test" of British citizenship came to be known in England as the "Cricket Test" and as you can imagine was greeted with hostility and calls of racism from the Left.
But his concerns were unfortunately vindicated on July 7th, 2005 when "home grown" terrorists hit the London Underground subway system with suicide attacks And now we have another terrorist plot which might have just included "home grown" terrorists in Great Britain. "Home Grown" Terrorists of Pakistani Origin.
Lord Tebbit could see that a problem was brewing in 1990. Too bad people didn't listen to Lord Tebbit's concerns in 1990 instead of ridiculing his "Cricket Test".
For More Information:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cricket_test
Tebbit attacks 'unreformed' Islam
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4163484.stm
Lord Tebbit said the 'cricket test' was a means of
gauging whether a community had integrated.
"If a community was looking back at where it had come from instead of looking forward with the people to whom they had come to, then there is going to be a problem sooner or later."
Just Tuesday, August 8th 2006 the English Cricket team was playing Pakistan in Leeds, a city with a large Pakistani community. Playing for England was Sajid Mahmood, and some of the crowd were chanting 'traitor' at him.
The Lancashire seamer became a target for a particular corner of the ground, who labelled him a traitor because his parents were both born in Pakistan before emigrating to England in the 1970s.
Sajid Mahmood WAS BORN IN ENGLAND so it is right and proper for him to play for England. So the real traitors were those who were calling him traitor.
The British Pakistani community may live within England, but far too many of them don't consider themselves of England.
This is how the situation is today in Great Britianstan.
Posted by: Steve on August 11, 2006 11:18 AMJust look at the absolutely pathetic response from the local papers in trying to minimize the islamic facsist connection at the Jewish Federation. The papers made much ado about Haq's mental state and the fact he was a "recently baptized" Christian. Hey, clueless ones!! The guy forced his way into the building, announced he was a muslim who didn't like Jews, and started shooting. Now the bozo is trying to plead guilty, probably thinking he will have the 70 virgins waiting for him upon execution. Imagine his great suprise when he finds himself burning in hell instead.
Posted by: Burdabee on August 11, 2006 11:19 AMhttp://www.aish.com/societyWork/society/The_Root_Cause_of_Terrorism.asp
"the root cause of terrorism is totalitarianism. Only a totalitarian regime, by systemically brainwashing its subjects, can indoctrinate hordes of killers to suspend all moral constraints for the sake of a twisted cause"
I agree with this premise, but disagree about what the author says about Bush. IF the Iraq war had been handled competently, IF we would have had a plan for securing the nation, IF we had decent intelligence assets at our disposal... IF IF IF....
In my opinion, the way to build Democracy in the middle east is not by brute force, but by example and by economic incentive.
Posted by: Splinter on August 11, 2006 01:49 PM"We are not fighting so that you will offer us something. We are fighting to eliminate you." --Hussein Massawi, a former Hezbollah leader
Get any clearer than that?
I've read the koran (twice - UGH) and I have no questions left about what needs to be done.
They wanted me to understand, I do now and wish I didn't. That first quote pretty much sums it all up.
I'd love to think there might actually be a mythical "moderate muslim", but after reading the koran, I do not see how they can exist and since lying to the infidel is proscribed, trust is just right out and at any point they can decide to come true to their book. Real shame, sigh.
After this I am firmly convinced we are in a struggle for our very survival in both our personal person (unless you wish to convert) and our way of life.
We have got to wake up and deal with this correctly, no, we do not want to do that, but we are being left no choice if we choose to survive as a people.
Another couple quotes I like:
"I'm anti-war! Trouble is, the enemy isn't." -- Unknown
Gen. Curtis LeMay: "If you kill enough of them, they stop fighting".
"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things." --John S. Mill
Posted by: Fox3 on August 11, 2006 01:59 PMhttp://www.carolinajournal.com/exclusives/display_exclusive.html?id=3158
Posted by: Larry on August 11, 2006 02:12 PMYou'd think they were rooting for the terrorists to succeed.
-Lee
Posted by: lee Egg on August 11, 2006 02:44 PMtranslation: their countries' rulers are/have long been corrupt & inept; ergo, we need more of YOUR U.S. tax money as free & no results expected 'aid' to pour down the rat hole to countries who hate us anyway; money quells anything, right? yea--sure
Posted by: Jimmie-howya-doin on August 11, 2006 04:18 PM
Let's pause a moment and review....
In 1968 Bobby Kennedy was shot and killed by: (a) A salesman from
Utah (b) An construction worker (c) A college student on Spring
Break (d) Middle Eastern Islamist males between the ages of 17
and 40.
In 1972, 11 Israeli athletes were killed at the Munich Olympics
by: (a) Your grandmother (b) A Midwest auto-parts dealer (c) A
mom and her 6-year-old son visiting from Indiana (d) Middle
Eastern Islamist males between the ages of 17 and 40.
In 1979, the U.S. embassy in Iran was taken over by: (a) A
bluegrass band (b) Dallas Cowboy fans (c) A tour group of
80-year-old women (d) Middle Eastern Islamist males between the
ages of 17 and 40.
During the 1980's numerous Americans were kidnapped in Lebanon
by: (a) A family on their way to Disney World (b) Jesse Ventura
(c) A Boy Scout Troop (d) Middle Eastern Islamist males between
the ages of 17 and 40.
In 1983, the U.S. Marine barracks in Beirut was blown up by: (a)
A pizza delivery boy (b) The UPS guy (c) Geraldo Rivera making up
for a slow news day (d) Middle Eastern Islamist males between the
ages of 17 and 40.
In 1985 the cruise ship Achille Lauro was hijacked, and a
70-year-old disabled American passenger was murdered and thrown
overboard by: (a) A girls' choir (b) A hardware store owner (c) A
secretary (d) Middle Eastern Islamist males between the ages of
17 and 40.
In 1985 TWA flight 847 was hijacked at Athens, and a U.S. Navy
diver was murdered by: (a) A Marine officer with two weeks leave
(b) A plumber going to visit his mom (c) A Catholic nun (d)
Middle Eastern Islamist males between the ages of 17 and 40.
In 1988, Pan Am Flight 103 was bombed by: (a) A college-bound
freshman (b) A cardiac surgeon on his way to Houston (c) A
waitress (d) Middle Eastern Islamist males between the ages of 17
and 40.
In 1993, the World Trade Center was bombed by: (a) A starving
actress (b) A mom with a newborn (c) Twin six-year-old boys (d)
Middle Eastern Islamist males between the ages of 17 and 40.
In 1995, a plot to blow up U.S.-bound international flights over
the Pacific was attempted by (a) Hawaiian school kids (b) An
decorated Vietnam Veteran (c) Twin sisters on their way to
Paducah (d) Middle Eastern Islamist males between the ages of 17
and 40.
In 1998, the U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania were bombed by:
(a) A local TV weatherman (b) A dad and his two sons on a ski
trip (c) A widower going to visit his grandchildren (d) Middle
Eastern Islamist males between the ages of 17 and 40.
In 2000, 17 sailors died in an attack on the USS Cole (DDG 67) in
Yemen by: (a) A child in a stroller (b) A high school class on
their way to visit Washington, DC (c) Newlyweds on their way to
Miami (d) Middle Eastern Islamist males between the ages of 17
and 40.
On 9/11/01, four airliners were hijacked -- two flown into the
World Trade Centers, one into the Pentagon and one into the
ground in rural Pennsylvania. They were hijacked by: (a) A
retired police officer on a mission trip to Haiti (b) A
firefighter going to Maryland for training (c) An paramedic on
his way to vacation in Hawaii (d) Middle Eastern Islamist males
between the ages of 17 and 40.
In 2002 the United States liberated Afghanistan from: (a) USAID
relief workers (b) Jewish Pilgrims (c) Christian missionaries (d)
Middle Eastern Islamist males between the ages of 17 and 40.
In 2002 reporter Daniel Pearl and other Westerners were kidnapped
and beheaded by: (a) The Peace Corp (b) Scottish clansmen (c)
Cuban refugees (d) Middle Eastern Islamist males between the ages
of 17 and 40.
In 2002, more than 330 hostages in Beslan and 130 hostages in
Moscow were murdered in sieges by: (a) Russian exchange students
(b) The Red Guard (c) Church planters (d) Middle Eastern Islamist
males between the ages of 17 and 40.
In 2003 the United States liberated Iraq from "The Butcher of
Baghdad," but most American military personnel were killed by:
(a) Iraqi school-girls (b) Street vegetable venders (c) Women
without burkas (d) Middle Eastern Islamist males between the ages
of 17 and 40.
In 2004, more than 200 Spanish civilians were murdered on trains
by bombs in Madrid, detonated by: (a) Morning commuters (b) A
three-year-old Chinese girl (c) Flamenco dancers (d) Middle
Eastern Islamist males between the ages of 17 and 40.
In 2005 more than 50 UK citizens were killed by bombs on trains
in London, detonated by: (a) Rail workers (b) Those unable to
hail taxis (c) Wheelchair-bound grandmothers (d) Middle Eastern
Islamist males between the ages of 17 and 40.
In 2005, there were hundreds of casualties, men, women and
children, killed by bombs in Jerusalem, Riyadh and Amman. These
innocent civilians were murdered by: (a) Construction workers (b)
Farmers (c) Christian missionaries (d) Middle Eastern Islamist
males between the ages of 17 and 40.
In 2005, the city of Paris, and other European cities experienced
an extended period of riots and destruction. The unrest was led
by: (a) "Youth" (b) Soccer fans (c) Catholic nuns (d) Middle
Eastern Islamist males between the ages of 17 and 40.
Since the beginning of Operation Iraqi Freedom, more than 2,500
Americans have been murdered by terrorists. 35,000 Iraqi men,
women and children have also been murdered by terrorists. Most of
the combat and civilians casualties were the result of bombs
detonated in civilian population centers by: (a) Fruit vendors in
Baghdad (b) Disgruntled transit union workers (c) Iraqi
schoolteachers (d) Middle Eastern Islamist males between the ages
of 17 and 40.
In 2006, hundreds of Israeli civilians have been killed by
rockets launched by: (a) the Salvation Army (b) remnants of the
'Jackson Five' (c) the cast of 'Friends' (d) Middle Eastern
Islamist males between the ages of 17 and 40.
In 2006, a plot to blow up 10 U.S.-bound planes from the U.K. was
attempted by (a) members of the royal family (b) Japanese
tourists (c) groupies of the band 'Cream' (d) Middle Eastern
Islamist males between the ages of 17 and 40.
Since 2001, the FBI reports that there are major terrorist cells
still in U.S. urban centers. Several of these cells have been
uncovered and cell members arrested. In every case, the
terrorists cell members were: (a) Southern Baptists
Conventioneers (b) Lutheran Youth Groups (c) Presbyterian Elders
(d) Middle Eastern Islamist males between the ages of 17 and 40.
President George Bush said this week, "America is at war with
Islamic fascists who will use any means to destroy those of us
who love freedom, to hurt our nation." The Council on
American-Islamic Relations issued an immediate objection to the
President's reference to "Islamic fascists". Nihad Awad,
executive director of CAIR protested, "We have to isolate these
individuals because there is nothing in the Koran or the Islamic
faith that encourages people to be cruel or to be vicious or to
be criminal. Muslims world wide know that for sure." In light of
this objection, we are left to ponder why every Islamic leader in
the U.S., and the world, does not publicly condemn every terror
action being undertaken in the name of the god of Islam. Their
silence is deafening...
Between 1970 and present, there were more than 60 other notable
examples of terrorism perpetrated by Middle Eastern male
Islamists between the ages 17 and 40, but we think you get the
point. Singling out "Middle Eastern male Islamists between the
ages 17 and 40" is not "ethnic profiling," it's "terrorist
profiling" -- acting on prolific evidence.
Anyone for Terrorist Profiling?
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Good post. I just wonder how the leftist readers here will respond in their attempt to twist this around to being our fault.
Posted by: Doug Peterson on August 11, 2006 08:08 PMThe terror list of killings is very long. I've taken the time to compile an exhaustive list prior to the Iraq War.
I'll post it on my website in a few weeks.
Most of the top terrorist are not only middle class, most are upper class. The Bin Laden family for example are worth billions. Sayyid Qutb the Carl Marx of modern terrorism was educated and travelled extensively.
Only Bush and his allies (I think his last ally must be Laura and she is starting to wonder if he has lost his mind) still think that Islam is a religion of peace (his words not mine).
Posted by: John McDonald on August 11, 2006 09:04 PM"Members of the left, along with the far larger number of squishy "progressives," have grossly failed to live up to their responsibility to think; rather, they are merely reacting, substituting tired slogans for thought. The majority of those "progressives" who take comfort from Stone and Chomsky are not committed, militant anti-imperialists or anti-capitalists. Nothing so muscular. They are of the sort who, discovering a viper in the bed of their child, would place the first call to People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals."
http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200112/hitchens
Posted by: Obi-Wan on August 11, 2006 10:27 PMJust remember Condi raised her hand to vote for a ceasefire with the world's #1 terrorist group. Her political career is over and the Bush just handed the Democrats a political nuclear weapon - it will probably take the Democrats about 3 days to realize it, then watch Bush and the R's sink to 25% or lower. Hezbollah beats Israel ... unbelievable!
Posted by: John McDonald on August 12, 2006 12:11 AMNew ideas for the new Islamic Age given our surrender.
1. Adobe Photoshop add-on, Martyrdom Video templates.
2. Muslim Gizoogle site to replace the Jew, IDF, Israel, American words with the more exceptible Islamic fascist words of pig, Crusaders, Palenstine, Infidel.
3. American women can turn in their drivers liscenses for a Burkas. Voter registration for eye liner. (sort of like gun exchange programs today).
4. Nargiles must still be smoke outside outdoors.
5. New Airline rules that allow goats and poultry as carry on.
6. Require all Americans to take a new name of Muhammad, Mohammed, Mohamd, Mehmet, or Mohamet or any combination of these names limited to 4 in a row.
7. Martha "Muhammad" Stewart tips on how to role your own turban and properly killing Halal killing of goats and poultry as remedial Muslim training.
8. Simon "Mohamd" Cowell will have to find a new job as a taxi driver.
however, when FBI "profiling" is used to catch a scum-bag child molester, serial murderer or criminal, then liberals call it "scientifically-based law enforcement" and rush to the camera for their "15 minutes of fame." why the double standard? profiling solves crimes; unfair? maybe, but the good of all demands all tools be used; to selectively use p.c.-approved methods is to condemn us all to victimhood;
Posted by: Jimmie-howya-doin on August 12, 2006 09:42 PM
You would think with statements like these the MSM and Liberals would be all for our mission in Iraq as to deprive the violent fanatics these economic breeding grounds.
Ever notice that the Bush Administration still claims that their have been no terrorists attacks on American soil since 9/11 - it seems that they are in lock step with the MSM.
Posted by: John McDonald on August 15, 2006 06:19 AM