September 21, 2006
King Cantcounty still struggling to tabulate its mail ballots, still lying about the problem

King Cantcounty yesterday tabulated only another 52,724 mail ballots, after a mere 45,521 on Tuesday, compared with 90,709 on primary day alone in 2005. Why is this year's count going so slowly?

On Tuesday Ron Sims blamed voters who failed to "pick-a-party" in the primary. Yesterday Sims cited the phoney-award-winning "ballot count accuracy improvements". All nonsense. 2005 also had a partisan primary and the same "accuracy improvements". Sims is simplly dancing to cover up the fact that his tabulation technology is inadequate for the workload.

The problem is that the tabulation system (Diebold's GEMS) uses a dinky Access database and it can't handle the complexity and variety of ballots that exist in King County. The partisan primary increases complexity, but the presence of PCOs on the ballot in even years (not odd years), also exacerbates the problem and is nothing new and has nothing to do with "pick-a-party". The inadequacy of the Access database has been a known issue since the county first started using GEMS in 1999, but Ron Sims has brushed off staff concerns and never bothered to get it fixed. Here's how one observer described it to me on Tuesday:

Big database issues--vote count likely to be delayed, possibly today but almost surely in November. Of course they've known about the problem for MANY months, but in typical KC fachion, positively NO planning too place to deal with it.

Evidently Diebold set up the system in Access which is far too small for the number of votes in KC and they've failed to reprogram for SQL or another more robust database. Instead, they count as many as possible before the program fills up, then they bring everything down for 2-3 hours while they compress the data and begin again. Diebold has a BUNCH of people on site and they & KC both have their spins all ready to roll out when stuff starts to get away from them

In spite of this problem, which Sims hasn't been able to fix in 7 years, he wants to force everybody to vote by mail even though he has no plan for managing the increased load on the system. At least he's got the spin-control down.

The GEMS/Access problem does get a mention in Deanron's "very, very good plan" brainstorm session notes for the move to forced mail voting. [see this document, p. 15]

Changing the GEMS database from Access to SQL should resolve the database size limits issue
They know it's a problem, but don't have a solution. Today's Seattle Times reports that Sims has a HAVA grant to purchase new tabulation equipment, but hasn't figured out what to do with the money.
The Metropolitan King County Council has not yet granted the elections department the spending authority to purchase new machines. Capital Budget Committee Chair Bob Ferguson, D-Seattle, says he wants the department to submit a spending plan -- before buying the machines -- that names the company that will supply them.
I can vouch that as recently as last month when they released the vote-by-mail "plan", there was no plan in there for buying actual equipment or integrating it with the department's other systems. But who cares if there's no plan for coping with the existing vote-by-mail workload? Sims is still on track to shove vote-by-mail down everybody's throats in time for the 2008 election.

Posted by Stefan Sharkansky at September 21, 2006 08:15 AM | Email This
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1. Snohomish County is going very slowly too. They are only posting results once a day at 5pm. They haven't even mentioned when PCO results will be posted.

Also, it should be noted that many Republicans were talking about opting to use the drop off station on election day, in protest of the forced mail voting. My husband and I did this as well. Our ballots have not been received yet, according to the confirmation feature on the Snohomish Co. auditor site.

Posted by: Michelle on September 21, 2006 08:45 AM
2. I'm sure it doesn't suprise anyone that the dems are already starting litigation to count the ballots with no party listed. Seems like a built-in for the KC to acrue extra votes.

Posted by: Jeffro on September 21, 2006 08:51 AM
3. You know, if KC (and Snohomish, for that matter) had the half a brain that Thurston seems to, they wouldn't have the whole 'failed to pick a party' issue. Thurston simply issued three ballots-a GOP one, a Dem one, and a non-partisan one. You picked one, marked your choices, sent it in (or dropped it off), and discarded the other two.

Quite simple.

Oh, and I sometimes wonder how much KC might speed up, especially when close statewide races are involved, if we had a law prohibiting the SecState and county auditors from releases any results for which final vote counts had not yet been turned in. (Yes, I realize this might delay releasing results for weeks in some cases, with WA's rules-ballot mailed on or before election day, as opposed to received by-and the significant numbers of overseas military voters. Tough.)

Posted by: Heartless Libertarian on September 21, 2006 09:08 AM
4. The important thing in this situation is to pray for the continued good health of Senators Patty and Maria. If either ever falters, Sims will take his ignorance to the U.S. Senate in perpetuity. What a blow that will be to the reputation of "the smartest city in America."

Posted by: Rey Smith on September 21, 2006 09:36 AM
5. KC Elections: Vote early and often!

Posted by: Jack Burton on September 21, 2006 09:38 AM
6. "3. You know, if KC (and Snohomish, for that matter) had the half a brain that Thurston seems to, they wouldn't have the whole 'failed to pick a party' issue. Thurston simply issued three ballots-a GOP one, a Dem one, and a non-partisan one. You picked one, marked your choices, sent it in (or dropped it off), and discarded the other two. Quite simple."

Of course, in King County, you could probably get away with turning all three ballots in separately with your well-planned-out votes for each party selected. Naturally any Republican votes would have been discarded as a "mistake" or fraud and the "legit" democrat votes counted by Sims volunteers as the "intent of the voters".


Posted by: digitalfotographer on September 21, 2006 09:43 AM
7. Ron Sims is about the dumbest Socialist bastard in history. He is such a slack-jawed mouth-breather I am amazed that he hasn't drowned in the shower. What a militantly stupid POS he is.

Behold, the liberal government at its finest.

Posted by: ERNurse on September 21, 2006 09:49 AM
8. According to SoS info, SnoCo counted only 10,000 ballots yesterday, after counting 69,000 election day.

So much for all mail balloting being better.

Posted by: SouthernRoots on September 21, 2006 10:06 AM
9. Can't the machines be programmed to only count the non-partisan races if the D/R bubble is not filled?

Yes, it is the voter's fault. It's the fault of the voters in 2004 who voted for King Ron.

Posted by: Obi-Wan on September 21, 2006 10:58 AM
10. Considering the head bafoon running the show Ronnie Boy nothing surprises me!! We can thank rabid leftists in Seattle for this!!

Posted by: Laurie on September 21, 2006 11:15 AM
11. Using the totally unscientific method of comparing ballots counted to 2004 ballots cast, it's pretty clear that King isn't the only county having some major issues here. Overall, the state has cast 28% of the vote total that it did in 2004.

There are some counties that are clearly near finishing, if not finished - Lincoln (67%), Garfield (63%), Columbia (60%). While I think that something is up at the KingCo office, I will note that there is a clear correlation between smaller county size and turnout at this point.

KingCo is neither the only nor the worst offender here. It's 18% on 2004. Island, on the other hand, is only 15%. Lewis is also just below King.

None of the big counties look done - Clark at 35%, Kitsap at 34%, Pierce at 31%, Spokane at 35%. They're all above the state average, but unless turnout is remarkably low, King County seems to be more a symptom of a statewide problem than the problem itself.

I'll also note that King County posted an update at 3 AM the first night. They pulled an all-nighter, apparently. Isn't that lovely to imagine - people who have been up for 24 hours counting ballots intricately?

Posted by: Alcon Nighthawk on September 21, 2006 11:16 AM
12. I've noticed that local Microsoft bias is a big problem in the Puget Sound region due to the location of Microsoft HQ. A good System Administration team and IT Director chooses the product that is best suited for the task. No doubt, there was some Ron Sims back slapping and other "buy WA first" mentality that contributed to the selection of GEMS.

Fools. Access is well known in the Sys Admin community as a toy. You sure don't find Access used for truly mission critical large scale database deployments in the real world. Or at least not without constant hand holding from Microsoft and careful disection of the DB into smaller workable pieces that Access can handle. But in so doing, that also increases overall System Administration workload in terms of database management, backup, more hardware maintenance, etc.

To me it appears that the largest deficiency at KCREALS is a lack of good operational IT knowledge. To be fair, this is common in both the public and privte sector, but given the hyper intense scrutiny that Sims and KCREALS have been under since 2004, this should have been addressed long ago. Two years is more than ample time to right the ship under competent leadership, so the core problem is just BAD MANAGEMENT.

Leading local newspapers and television stations should be calling for Sims to step down and for an emergency operational review and replacement of the entire KCREALS management team.

Posted by: Jeff B. on September 21, 2006 11:17 AM
13. Jeff--

Absolutely. The problem is that elections have moved into the 21st century, and nearly everywhere, it is still being addressed as a 20th century problem. In obtaining 2004 precinct results, I contacted a lot of counties. Many of them said they were still using 1980s software to tabulate and store election results. None of the staffers seemed remotely friendly with the technology, with very few exceptions.

On that, I think King County gets a bit of a bad rap. Smaller counties can get away with using outmoded systems. Garfield County has 1/725th of King County's population. They could use an abacus and get the results in before KC.

That doesn't make King County's attitude acceptable. But it isn't at all uncommon. KC should be held up to a higher standard, especially in management, but I have not seen any real indication that the thinking process when it comes to IT is any different in the other counties. I would like to see what kind of infrastructure they have.

Posted by: Alcon Nighthawk on September 21, 2006 11:23 AM
14. Exactly how is it they know who won each race when they don't even have all of the ballots in hand, nor do they know how many more are still on their way?

Lies, damn lies and statistics.......or just rigged elections.

Posted by: Scott in Carnation on September 21, 2006 11:47 AM
15. It was an absolute mistake for King County-ites to re-elect this man. Yes, I know he received his lowest vote-totals ever last time around, but still enough to keep his job. What a tragedy.

And no, Jeffro, I didn't know about that lawsuit. The rules are the rules, and for some reason Dems never want to follow the rules. I learned of the mark-a-party rule and accept it. If I forget to mark it, that's my own darn fault. And if I intentionally choose to not mark it (as some surely did), then I fully expect my vote not be to counted anyway. If rules for the game are not enforced (and we know that they already haven't been in so many cases with KCE, then we have absolutely nothing. Except a dictatorship.

Posted by: Misty on September 21, 2006 11:51 AM
16. It was an absolute mistake for King County-ites to re-elect this man. Yes, I know he received his lowest vote-totals ever last time around, but still enough to keep his job. What a tragedy.

And no, Jeffro, I didn't know about that lawsuit. The rules are the rules, and for some reason Dems never want to follow the rules. I learned of the mark-a-party rule and accept it. If I forget to mark it, that's my own darn fault. And if I intentionally choose to not mark it (as some surely did), then I fully expect my vote not be to counted anyway. If rules for the game are not enforced (and we know that they already haven't been in so many cases with KCE, then we have absolutely nothing. Except a dictatorship.

Posted by: Misty on September 21, 2006 11:52 AM
17. Thurston simply issued three ballots-a GOP one, a Dem one, and a non-partisan one.

An excellent concept where the powers to be have morals and scruples. Providing extra ballots in Dr. MLK County would be like giving five year old kids loaded guns. It's frightening to think about extra ballots floating around. Sims and crew do enough damage with the ballots they now get their hands on.

Posted by: Tyler Durden on September 21, 2006 12:39 PM
18. Misty-

Heard it on the morning news. Wait and see, the dems will count all even without party designation. I know plenty of people who didn't fill it out as a protest. I myself am in favor of the caucus (sp) system. But at leaast this isn't as bad as the top two system. Sorry- a bit off topic.

Let me say that elections in KC are FUBaR and I have lost ALL confidence in the process. I'll continue to vote, but I have no doubt that they are tracking the republican voters and disqualitying them for the smallest mis mark and allowing and devining the democrat voters ballots.

Posted by: Jeffro on September 21, 2006 12:44 PM
19. The reason the dems want the pick-a-party deal is because they are convinced, CONVINCED! that the republicans are going to resort to some ort of wholesae vote misdirection to pick the least winnable guy and then abandon him in the general....

I believe in psych circles that's called "projection"....

(From my dad, who is a rabidly militant leftist Democrat PCO who recently asked me about weapons for home defense because he was concerned about "right wing death squads")

Posted by: Aaron on September 21, 2006 01:07 PM
20. You must have some interesting dinner conversations Aaron!

Posted by: alphabet soup on September 21, 2006 01:21 PM
21. ER at 7--i'm at that stage of frustration too; ranting till blue in the face--no pun either!

everyone keeps giving this liar Ron & his foibles a pass; fools all; too p.c.--i'd REALLY like to kick those lib voters in the collective arse for re-electing him--THEY are to blame--they are either apathetic, purposely peckerheads or lemmmings with a self-destructive wish for all taxpayers, landowners and small businesses;

when KC takes your land & restricts it for GMO or environnment, it can count boundaries as accurate as a spy sattlite; but counting a simple damn vote accurately or designing a system for same in 2006, it's like the freakin middle ages;

we deserve this--he's still there, so what can one say...

Posted by: jimmie-howya-doin on September 21, 2006 01:45 PM
22. From the Snohomish County Auditor website:

Voting results and ballot return numbers for the September 19, 2006 Primary Election
These numbers are UNOFFICIAL until final election certification.
Updated as of September 20th, 5:00 p.m.
Number of ballots issued: 337,393
Number of ballots returned to date: 79,269 -- Approximately 23.50% voter turnout -- Approximately 39,000 ballots left to count
Next vote total update: Sept 21, 2006, at approximately 5:00 PM
Last Updated: September 20, 2006 5:00 PM

http://www.co.snohomish.wa.us/auditor/Elections/ecurrent.htm

Posted by: Michelle on September 21, 2006 01:53 PM
23. As an IT person myself, I am appalled that Access would be used for anything beyond, perhaps, a personal music collection. But I do think that you (a professional DBA, no?) claiming that bad DB infrastructure is "the problem" is a bit like the guy with the hammer who thinks every problem is a nail. I suspect that poor IT infrastruture is a symptom, not the cause, of King County Elections problems.

Posted by: David Wright on September 21, 2006 05:16 PM
24. Database problems: We should at least be pointing fingers in the right direction. Diebold, not KC, provides the software AND the machines to run it. On the other hand, KC Elections continues to contract with Diebold to produce ballots and count the returns in spite of year-after-year of poor performance.

If the so-called leadership at King County had a clue how to plan, negotiate, manage and otherwise run a business, they would have either pressured Diebold convert their lousy program to something that works or found another way to get the job done.

Mr. Sims should be our target--the buck stops with him and nobody else. He insists on appointing inept managers, he should jolly well be held accountable for their incompetence.

Posted by: iyq2 on September 21, 2006 06:47 PM
25. Have to agree that Access shouldn't be more than a front end to a real DB system. It works well in that role. Don't see that bringing data in to a SQL or DB2 dataset would be that difficult an undertaking, but then I don't know the structure of the DB they're using, perhaps it would be an issue. (being charitable here) there must be SOME reason they prefer a cluge to a real solution.

Posted by: mark on September 21, 2006 07:29 PM
26. BTW, I just saw this on Instapundit:

A week after the primary election was plagued by human error and technical glitches, Maryland Gov. Robert L. Ehrlich Jr. (R) called yesterday for the state to scrap its $106 million electronic voting apparatus and revert to a paper ballot system for the November election.

"When in doubt, go paper, go low-tech," he said.

Maybe KC can learn something.

Posted by: Heartless Libertarian on September 21, 2006 07:43 PM
27. why can't we outsource the vote counting & tabulation to some college or grad student interns as a HUGE class project?

i can't imagine they could do any worse--and--double win--they get class credits and we get a count done by kids with ideals and hard work, not apathetic, politically-oriented clerks.

Posted by: jimmie-howya-doin on September 23, 2006 01:28 PM
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