December 05, 2006
Heads they win, tails you lose.

The Seattle City Council in action

"This is the way we make most of our decisions by the way"

Posted by Stefan Sharkansky at December 05, 2006 03:26 PM | Email This
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1. YouTube is really changing the world. It's quite amazing. I bet alot of people (Michael Richards comes to mind) wish it did not exist right now.

Sidenote: YouTube would not have had the success it did without net neutrality. This is an area where I part company with Republicans and their large telecom donors. Comcast has become the new evil empire.

Posted by: Palouse on December 5, 2006 04:29 PM
2. Harmless, kinda funny. No big deal

Posted by: GregInSeattle on December 5, 2006 04:44 PM
3. *YAWN*, if the meeting doesn't have Richard Lee there you can guarantee it's going to be dull.

Posted by: Cato on December 5, 2006 04:57 PM
4. Actually, given the quality of decision making lately, a coin toss process would probably be a good option.

Posted by: Huey on December 5, 2006 05:03 PM
5. Stefan,

The easiest thing to do is get yourself a soapbox and criticize while you sit there with no responsibility and no decision making authroity.

You and Goldy are the perfect examples of people who love verbally assaulting your opponents yet never wish to take on the actual responsibilty, by say, serving in a public capacity.

Go yell. Go scream. Go make fun. Until you have walked in their shoes, your views count a lot less.

I have served public office -- and can tell you that you show less than 5% of the understanding of what is involved.

At least Carlson put his money where his (hugely rejected) mouth is. Course...he found out how little people thought of his ideas...but at least he had the stones to take it on. Same for Dave Ross.

The opposite applies to you and Goldy.

Posted by: JimTBob on December 5, 2006 05:42 PM
6. JimTBob--what wold you have everyone do? join everything and continually change their lives?

your argument (walk the talk) makes sense on the surface and in some applications, but is it practical for everyone with a simple opinion? which, by right we all (still) have here in America.

shall I be invalidated for criticizing the Roman Empire because I can not go back in time? or criticizing a politician in MA--shall I move there or run against him to make a "more valid" point?

discourse and idea exchanges are not predicated on taking on every role of the criticized. what about universities--do students become instant professors?

why did you miss that point? according to your argument, shall I now join a jihad-like enemy to "make a more valid point" against something i disagree with in America? do movie critics become actors to properly do their jobs?

Posted by: jimmie-howya-doin on December 5, 2006 05:56 PM
7. Jimmie (etc.):

The point isn't about whether it's good to express opinions.

The point is when Stefan (or Goldy) use a tiny snippet like this to suggest (not to subtly) that the elected officials makes ill-considered, ill-informed and abritrary decisions does more to shed light on their lack of service and ineptitude than anything else.

Hope you didn't miss the point this time. SOrry I had to spell it out for you.

Posted by: JimTBob on December 5, 2006 05:59 PM
8. Dayam, JTB, but you ARE a superior bastard, aren't you?

You don't like what The Shark posts, then don't read this website. I'm sure there's plenty of room for your ilk over at HA.

Posted by: Hinton on December 5, 2006 06:07 PM
9. People like JimTBob are way too serious. I've figured out that Stefan has a rather dry sense of humor. IMHO this post is to poke gentle fun at the Seattle Silly Council, rather that a serious critique of their decision making process (then again I could be wrong ;-) ) GregInSeattle gets it.

Lighten up, people.

Posted by: Obi-Wan on December 5, 2006 07:21 PM
10. Ever since they started televising politics, politicians have become star struck. This guy is playing to the camera as much as the audience. What do you want to bet he has a library of himself on tape?

Posted by: Organization Man on December 5, 2006 08:41 PM
11. # 7 - At least you are not a hyper-partisan or kool aid drinker, since you chastised both Stefan and Goldy. That is the nature of politics nowdays - vicious, sniping and polarized.

Alot of times, public officials do make ill-informed decisions or use their power (corrupted) to ramrod debacles like Sound Transit light rail down our throats. More recently the City of Seattle Mayor & council are attempting to force the citizenry peons to pay for a brand new $4billion tunnel to replace the Alaskan Way viaduct. Unfortunately, today - many citizens who vote are ill-informed and elect the buffoons who make the ill-informed decisions.

I would also suggest that any one who is so apathetic and lazy and takes the Seattle daily newspapers or evening news on the alphabet channels as gospel is ill-informed. Politicians who don't care what their constituents want and do what they want are a real boon to society. End of story.

Posted by: KS on December 5, 2006 09:36 PM
12. Obi Wan is right. You need to have a sense of humor to get by. If you can't laugh, especially at yourself, then you're a progressive. And who says we're not supposed to have fun at SP? Come on, funny is funny. Lighten up,JimTBob. Even the speakers and participants there thought it was funny!

Posted by: katomar on December 5, 2006 11:01 PM
13. Lighten up, JimTBob, it was a joke. That you're getting this bent out of shape because of an amusing, but utterly harmless, snippet of a joke a council member made is a bit pathetic. katomar's right, even the folks there were laughing at the joke. Good grief, laugh once and a while and quite being so hypersensitive.

Posted by: Mike H on December 6, 2006 02:28 AM
14. If Stefan had been really, really serious, he wouldn't have misspelled in action and he would have gone with the more appropriate "inaction". LOL

Posted by: swatter on December 6, 2006 07:09 AM
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