April 10, 2007
Domestic Partnerships

The House is currently debating the domestic partnerships bill, SB 5336.

Watch live on TVW.

UPDATE: The bill passed on a nearly party-line 63-35.

As I've said before, the artful compromise would be to make domestic partnerships available to any two adults who aren't otherwise married and want to form a durable household, and without explicit recognition that such partnerships might be sexual. That probably could have passed quietly and easily and ensured that everybody got the economic rights they said they wanted. Instead, the bill was designed to be about extending government's blessings to loving couples, which is neither necessary, nor something that most people are ready for, yet will ensure that this issue remains a political football over which reasonable discussions of other issues will be held hostage for years to come.

Posted by Stefan Sharkansky at April 10, 2007 04:55 PM | Email This
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1. Oemig again...who woulda thunk

So if I read this bill correctly, all I have to do is to get a same sex partner, file with the SecState and bingo...all the rights. And if I want to disolve...again, file a paper and bingo.
But if I have a opposite sex partner and want to marry, I need a marriage license before I can do things, and to disolve I need a legal proceeding called divorce. Hmmm, where's the fairness in that and where do the lawyers make money :-)

Posted by: dutch on April 10, 2007 05:39 PM
2. #1 - Dutch - doesn't have to be same sex. Just be over 62 and you can even be heterosexual and get all your former spouse's benefits (pension, SSA, VA) with the benefits and privileges of the current domestic partner. At least that's how I understand it.

Might make the option of marriage unthinkable for the senior set.

Posted by: Old Faithful on April 10, 2007 05:56 PM
3. This certainly tells you the Agenda of the Gay/Lesbian Crowd......
I thought they wanted sexuality to not matter??
I guess if these folks take PRIDE and have PARADES about there sexual deviancy, one would expect them to say Look at Us whenever they can.

Just because this Bill passes, doesn't mean they are not sexual deviants.

Posted by: aaargh on April 10, 2007 06:33 PM
4. I'm with Stefan on this one. Although I would have a provision to prevent convenience partnerships strictly for the purpose of legal change in tax status. But the GLBT community wants it to be all about the sex and the class warfare with heterosexuals.

Frankly, the whole matter is flippant. Marriage is a lot of hard work. And it is far more about shared values and an eye on the long term goal of commitment and a good structure for children than anything else. Even many heterosexual couples get this way wrong.

Posted by: Jeff B. on April 10, 2007 07:04 PM
5. So all we have to do now is team up with any single, young or old friend or relative of ours that happens to be working for the state, get one piece of paper, and we will get their pension for the rest of our lives also.

WOW that will help the already broke State Pension Plan.

Posted by: GS on April 10, 2007 07:51 PM
6. #1 Dutch

Trial lawyers and ACLU rule this session, have you not heard? There will be no law banning frivolous lawsuits either. By time this Legislature gets done all sense of morals will be gone. Anyone voting another democrat into state office is either a socialist or a communist. Even moral democrats are astounded at what is going on!

There are things to be said about a tied (grid-locked) House and Senate in Washington State!

Posted by: Old Sgt on April 10, 2007 07:57 PM
7. Uh GS you could get married for the same, actually more, benefits. Hell a well written prenup and divorce could be a snap.

DP's don't get any federal rights, like SS, VA, etc. What is included in the new arrangement are things like hospital visitation, medical decision making, inheritance, etc. Private companies could choose to recognize them though it is not required.

What would be the easiest though would be to just allow gay marriage.

Posted by: Giffy on April 10, 2007 08:31 PM
8. But Giffy, What are they doing for Bi-sexuals? Are they making people artificially choose one partner over the other simply for benefits? This is an outrage! The Democrats will have to address this in an emergency session! Why should society force Bi's to choose, it's inhumane unless you are willing to grant marriage to multiple partners...right?

Posted by: Huh? on April 10, 2007 09:18 PM
9. Hi all,

Just commenting on the statement, sparked by the gay/lesbian marriage issue: "anyone voting another democrat into office. .. is either a socialist or a communist."


I'd like to point out that communists particularly tend to be virulently anti-gay. Castro puts gays away in prison. I believe that gays (specifically) went to prison in Communist China. You cannot today get into the Revolutionary Communist Party if you are an out gay. The Communist Party USA and the Socialist Workers Party banned gays into the mid 70s.

My position as a conservative is if the state gives one couple--male and female, a subsidy that will help it over the course of its lifetime in many wonderful ways, it should also give the other couple, male and male or female and female, the same exact subsidy.

Cheers, NLC#1


Posted by: newleftconservative#1 on April 10, 2007 09:48 PM
10. To prefer a Democrat to a Republican is at best to prefer a death by a thousand cuts to a good, clean bullet to the base of the skull.

Posted by: God, this lefty nonsense gets old on April 10, 2007 10:25 PM
11. A travesty.

Posted by: Michele on April 10, 2007 11:02 PM
12. I love to watch so-called "small-government" conservatives and "so-called" libertarian conservatives twist and turn over these issues. Gay-marriage and domestic partnerships, along with the war on drugs, the War in Iraq, and a whole host of other modern issues betray the realy focus of the modern "conservative" party.

Ha! :-)

Posted by: Timothy on April 10, 2007 11:04 PM
13. And to think John Edwards says there's "Two Americas". Only two John?

Posted by: PC on April 10, 2007 11:05 PM
14. And to think John Edwards says there's "Two Americas". Only two John?

Posted by: PC on April 10, 2007 11:06 PM
15. We will look back and be amazed that there was such a monumental struggle to legalize gay marriage.

Posted by: bb on April 10, 2007 11:55 PM
16. The bill is very flawed - for ONCE I agree with Shark.

It will not survive a referendum which is surely coming down the pike.

No amount of gay money or political organizing will save this turkey.

And it could cost Gregoire her re-election bid in 2008.

Sorry Dems., you just stepped in shit, bad law as it is very unbalanced/unfair, and society is a generation away from dealing squarely with gay marriage. Some changes in society are slow and slower.....as in the case of moving to allow gay marriage.

Posted by: jason the infrequent poster on April 11, 2007 12:04 AM
17. Huh?
Personally I have no problem with polyamorous marriages. whats it to me. though I would have no problem with restricting the number of people covered by family/employer insurance plans. Children should count to of course. Honestly the number of people who want such arrangements are quite small and many simply do it already. Once again the problem is that the people they consider closest to them have to jump through hopes to fulfill that role.

And Jason, kid of like the civil rights bill last year right. A majority of Americans support Civil Unions and Washington is a bit more socially liberal then the rest of the Country. Not even mentioning that this bill is far from civil unions. Should it have included younger hetros, sure, but there were reasons not too at the time.

Posted by: Giffy on April 11, 2007 06:49 AM
18. Talk abouit something interesting please

Posted by: Maggiano Meatball on April 11, 2007 07:14 AM
19. Watch for your insurance rates to increase due to the added layer of compliance and paperwork. Then look for the lawsuits to cover heteros who are living together, but not married. This will add more layer to the burdened system.

Then look for the state to claim that insurance costs are out of sight and need to be regulated by the state, which will then lead to a single-payer system by the state.

The OIC has been trying to implement plans for single-payer systems for several years starting with Deborah Senn and continuing with Mike Kreidler. If anyone pays attention to his speeches, you will see he is nothing more than a socialist bent on government control of everything.

Posted by: Ken on April 11, 2007 08:12 AM
20. Cool, can I marry my cat now?

Posted by: Army Medic/Vet on April 11, 2007 08:16 AM
21. Army Medic, please marry my cat as I've been looking to give it away for some time.

Posted by: PC on April 11, 2007 09:21 AM
22. 21. PC

does your cat have papers. LOL

Another dumb idea from the libs.

Posted by: Army Medic/Vet on April 11, 2007 09:27 AM
23. Cool, can I marry my cat now?
Only in Enumclaw...

Posted by: LiberalsShouldBeShot on April 11, 2007 09:27 AM
24. Giffy,

Thanks for the clarification on multiple marriages to multiple partners of multiple sexes.
I am sure that is what the Bill sponsor's and the Governor intended.

The multiple species amendment will have to be Oemig's top priority for the next session.

Posted by: Huh? on April 11, 2007 10:35 AM
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