Another inconvenient truth for Al Gore:
Pictures of [Tanzania' Mt. Kilimanjaro], which has lost 90 percent of its ice cover, were featured in Al Gore's documentary, "An Inconvenient Truth." Greenpeace activists once held a satellite news conference on the summit to sway participants in an international climate conference.One scientist frets that theBut most scientists who study Kilimanjaro's glaciers have long been uneasy with the volcano's poster-child status.
Yes, ice cover has shrunk by 90 percent, they say.
But no, the buildup of greenhouse gases from cars, power plants and factories is not to blame.
"Kilimanjaro is a grossly overused mis-example of the effects of climate change," said University of Washington climate scientist Philip Mote, co-author of an article in the July/August issue of American Scientist magazine.
new article will be seized on by "global warming naysayers" and could give people the mistaken impression that it calls global warming into question,No, it should help refocus the discussion on facts and science instead of hysteria. Posted by Stefan Sharkansky at June 12, 2007 07:41 AM | Email This
Wasn't it the cynical Drudge who posted that Denver had the coldest day in May or June just before a global hysteria conference of one sort or another a couple of days ago in that city?
Posted by: swatter on June 12, 2007 08:06 AMSo, before we have to conserve energy to save the energy for the "global" freeze coming, show me the "beef".
Posted by: swatter on June 12, 2007 08:56 AMCome on folks get on the dang band wagon. LOL
Time to go fill up my 6000 lbs Land Cruiser. (-:
Al Gore only has a B.A. in Government (no higher degree achieved)
Mr. Gore's high school performance on the college board achievement tests in physics (488 out of 800 "terrible," St. Albans retired teacher and assistant headmaster John Davis told The Post) and chemistry (519 out of 800 "He didn't do too well in chemistry," Mr. Davis observed) suggests that Mr. Gore would have trouble with science for the rest of his life.
Al Gore Refuses to Take Personal Energy Ethics Pledge:
http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Minority.PressReleases&ContentRecord_id=7616011f-802a-23ad-435e-887baa7069ca
Gore home's energy use: 20 times average:
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=54450
Bush's Ranch House 'Far More Eco-Friendly' Than Gore's:
http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewCulture.asp?Page=/Culture/archive/200703/CUL20070301c.html
Gore's 'carbon offsets' paid to firm he owns:
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=54528
Al Gore Pushes 'Pollution Tax':
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/9/18/174743.shtml
The Anti "Man-Made" Global Warming Resource:
http://z4.invisionfree.com/Popular_Technology/index.php?showtopic=2050
"There is a clear attempt to establish truth not by scientific methods but by perpetual repetition."
- Richard S. Lindzen, Ph.D. Professor of Meteorology, MIT
http://www.counterpunch.com/cockburn06092007.html
First, it sounds more dramatic and encompasses a much larger scale of activity as they claim some areas will cool as a result of some areas getting warmer.
Secondly, no matter if it gts hotter or colder, then they can claim to win the argument.
My bigger question is "Why is warming the earth by 1 degree so bad?" Since the earth has gone through much warmer and much cooler periods even in the last millenium, are the impacts going to be detrimental to the earth or merely to humans who would have to adapt to the oceans being about 20 inches higher in about 100 years? (by all estimates except Al Gore)
Posted by: KEn on June 12, 2007 11:16 AMThat's the problem with GW, it's become unfalsifiable.
Posted by: Frank Black on June 12, 2007 12:20 PMAnd given that the scientists in that article specifically state about the heat loss of the Pacific:
huge natural heat vent emitted about as much heat during the 1980s and 90s as would be expected from a redoubling of the carbon dioxide content in the air.
And
sudden ocean coolings particularly complicate the problem of separating natural temperature changes from man-made impacts on the Earth's temperature.
Maybe it's not man and CO2 after all? Maybe - just maybe - it's the Earth's normal pattern.
Posted by: Edmonds Dan on June 12, 2007 12:45 PM"You can't go calling global warming a scam. I have a company selling energy credits. And I invest heavily in alternative fuel sources. If there is not a hysteria, how can I make some real dough?"
Posted by: swatter on June 12, 2007 01:47 PMIt is possible, though, that there is an indirect connection between the accumulation of greenhouse gases and Kilimanjaro's disappearing ice: There is strong evidence of an association over the past 200 years or so between Indian Ocean surface temperatures and the atmospheric circulation and precipitation patterns that either feed or starve the ice on Kilimanjaro. These patterns have been starving the ice since the late 19th century--or perhaps it would be more accurate to say simply reversing the binge of ice growth in the third quarter of the 19th century. Any contribution of rising greenhouse gases to this circulation pattern necessarily emerged only in the last few decades; hence it is responsible for at most a fraction of the recent decline in ice and a much smaller fraction of the total decline.- Philip W. Mote and Georg Kaser in American Scientist, July-August 2007
Posted by: Acid Brain on June 12, 2007 02:00 PMWith that said, contrary to Rush Limbaugh - I am all for cleaning up the environment and the air we breathe, using new technology in an economically-friendly way - those two aren't mutually exclusive are they ?
Posted by: KS on June 13, 2007 12:44 PMGlobal Warming™ and pollution are two separate things. Ethanol creates more smog pollution than gasoline. How is that a good thing? Crippling western economies to meet an arbitrary CO2 number from the past when CO2 isn't the problem. How does that help anything?
It seems that all logic and any sort of rational cost benefit analysis is lost in the dogma of environmental extremism. At some point the adults will have to take control. I don't expect Algore to step forward.
LOLOMG 68% Repubs are retarded:
http://www.galluppoll.com/content/?ci=27847
Durhhhhh.
Posted by: pat on June 15, 2007 11:36 AM