September 06, 2007
Is Darcy Burner a Moderate?

Behold today's Seattle Times coverage of Rodney Tom's abrupt halt to his primary challenge against Darcy Burner. Here's a passage loyal readers of Sound Politics will find familiar:

Primaries bring out the party faithful, said [Democratic State Rep. Deb] Eddy, and "Darcy was more left wing than he is."

However, the 8th District, which stretches from Duvall to Eatonville, is not as liberal as Burner is, Eddy said, and that could spell trouble in a race against Reichert. While Burner is popular among left-leaning bloggers, that may not translate to the average voter.

"One thing that worries me is she has not naturally gravitated to more nuanced positions," Eddy said. "Sometimes it's hard to get perspective or distance from the net roots. They can create a lot of smoke."

Burner says, "in more normal times, I would be seen as a more moderate Democrat." If that were the case, why is she bashing the 41 "more moderate" members of her own party in the House who voted for FISA reform last month (as did 16 Democrats plus Joe Lieberman in the Senate)?

Likewise, if she's a "moderate" who holds "a respect for open markets" wouldn't she come out in support of at least some of the four major trade deals pending in Congress? In this trade dependent state, the modestly left-of-center Seattle Times editorial page says they're all worthy of approval. Sounds like a pretty moderate position and a great way to establish moderate bona fides. But, does anyone think Darcy Burner, running to the left of the current Democratic Congress, would actually take such a step?

Last fall the Tacoma News Tribune described Burner as "overtly partisan" and someone who "offers straight Democratic positions." Around the same time, the Times said: "it is hard to discern where Burner differs from the Democratic Party line." It's also hard to say things have changed much...other than Darcy Burner running even farther to the left.

Posted by Eric Earling at September 06, 2007 07:25 PM | Email This
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1. This girl runs with the hard left--the ones who say in the hate website KOS that our fine soldiers are "idiots" along with other shocking comments that are reprehensible to typical americans.

She also thinks her taxes are too low, which is not something the typical american is thinking. Most americans are annoyed at how high their taxes are and noticing how the high taxes keep them from getting ahead more than they have.

A big fat NO to this girl. Reichert is a much better fit for the 8th District, and Eddy (and likely others) knows it. Which is why it was written on this blog that the Dem party tried to soft-peddle her, knowing she was more radical that the district she wants to represent. I still think she'd be better off moving to Seattle and running for the 7th. People there like her brand of leftist extremism.

Posted by: Michele on September 6, 2007 07:59 PM
2. The only thing Darcy is moderate on is brainpower.

Posted by: cliff on September 6, 2007 08:19 PM
3. Hey! Not everyone here likes her brand of leftist extremism! That being said, I think the Dems have no hope in the 8th in running Burner against Reichert again. If she didn't take the first time, I can't see it happening now.

Posted by: Jessica on September 6, 2007 08:20 PM
4. Burner has a better chance of winning the 8th than a pro war candidate has of winning the presidency. Yet the Dems are gung ho to get Darcy into the general election and the GOP establishment is excited to get anyone but Paul into the general election.

Posted by: Travis Pahl on September 6, 2007 08:36 PM
5. I'm just sorry we all have to be subjected to her hard left pandering. I'm still not over having her commercials air non-stop during the last election cycle and now she's already gearing up again.

Posted by: mimi on September 6, 2007 08:53 PM
6. Who's Paul? Do you mean Pahl?

Posted by: steve miller on September 6, 2007 09:00 PM
7. Let's be clear.

The question that I was asked had to do with why Rodney Tom dropped out of the Democratic primary race. My comments went largely to the impact of the CLOSED primary. Regardless of whether we're talking about Democratic or Republican candidates, closed primaries tend to favor the candidate more aligned with the party's most faithful voters (left or right). Quite a few middle-of-the-road voters are still irritated that we lost the open primary in this state and refrain from voting, if required to pick a party.

Indeed, there'd been a lot of chatter about whether Sen. Tom could win the closed primary. Darcy is a phenomenal campaigner and quite popular. But she will need to appeal to a broad range of voters in the 8th District, beyond the more resolutely left-wing.

I stand by those statements, but don't want them to be construed in any way as support for Dave Reichert. I live in the 1st District, not the 8th, so he's not my congressman. But make no mistake, my positions on certain federal issues differ markedly from Dave's, especially on social issues. We'll see what 8th District voters think next November.

Posted by: Deb Eddy on September 6, 2007 09:00 PM
8. Deb, don't worry. We don't expect you to support Dave Reichert. Just don't expect us to support you, either.

have a nice day. ;)

Posted by: steve miller on September 6, 2007 09:03 PM
9. That breeze from Deb Eddy's (back) peddling is causing quite a gale............

Burner's "phenomomenal" campaigning amounts to little more than good keyboard skills. Too bad her nutroots donors can't vote in the 8th. Go home Blondie - it's over.

Posted by: diamondshards on September 6, 2007 09:41 PM
10. Darcy Burner a moderate!!!! LOL. I guess this shows the delusion that Darcy is under. If one campaigns almost solely in the 7th with a lot of mudslinging rhetoric and protesters, one is NOT a moderate. And what are normal times? We live in the present. We act in the present. Darcy Burner has proven to be more shrill and more beholden to the Nutroots than anything approaching a more traditional Democrat like Norm Dicks. And she should fully own her actions instead of trying to appeal to some other time period where she would act more appropriate. That's just craven.

But hey, if she's that deluded, let her go forth with zeal and meltdown. It never ceases to amaze me how much the Nutroots are able to create a reality distortion field that generates a lot of light, but very little heat.

Posted by: Jeff B. on September 6, 2007 09:56 PM
11. I think none of us can respect Deb Eddy that much when she ripped up hundreds of Republican yard signs and then publicly bragged about it (what a precedence!). But at least she reads a blog like this and engages Republicans. And her comments make perfect sense. To admit that Darcy is further to the left than the average voter is a bit courageous. I doubt many democrats wish she had said that.

So, in my mind, Deb Eddy is a straight-talker and deserves some kudos. She's also a BRAZEN UNREPENTANT THIEF, but a still a straight-talker. :)

Posted by: AD on September 6, 2007 10:05 PM
12. Deb said: "closed primaries tend to favor the candidate more aligned with the party's most faithful voters"

And you find something wrong with this? If you don't want to identify yourself as the member of a particular party, why should you have any say what-so-ever in who represents that party in the general election?

Posted by: ItTakesAVillageToConveneAGrandJury on September 6, 2007 10:41 PM
13. Up front: Deb Eddy is my friend...in fact, she is my GOOD friend, and while she and I disagree on many issues, I respect her integrity and candor.

Her assessment of politics in both the Democratic Party and the 1st and 8th Congressional Districts is worth listening to and respecting because she tells it to you straight no matter the brickbats thrown back at her.

I wish more politicos on both sides of the aisle had the respect she does for her constituents and for telling the truth. She's not a poll-driven politician; she's an honorable public servant. And she's my friend!

The Piper

Posted by: Piper Scott on September 6, 2007 11:27 PM
14. What an awesome load of bullshit.

What idiots care whether a label reads Dem or Publican?

Darcy is very competent.
Her views are middle of the road.
She is politically ambitious and committed.
She is running to prep. the District as a member of the ruling party.

Grow up, smell the roses, spill the kool aid and drink the diet coke!

Take Darcy in as Darcy, not some damn Rove inspired cartoon. DEBATE the issues. DEBATE her points of view.

As a moderate she seem closer to me than does the Sharif. I worry abiuyt his stand on Mr. Bush. It may have been a good idea to have the prexy here to raise campaign dollars, but any responsible American knows that we are now in a regency. Responsible Republicans have finally got some adults into the White House ... belatedly. Ifd Reichert really supports this sad sack, the Reicher is not fit to represent the 8th.

Try listing the issues they both support or oppose. I think Darcy will come out as the more rational and that ain't an issue for right vs. left.

Posted by: SeattleJew on September 7, 2007 02:10 AM
15. Hello.

Isn't it funny that the first real pro-Darcy posting on this site is the only one with profanity and is chock-full of grammar errors. I'm not saying it implies anything. I'm just sayin'...

Posted by: Left Behind by the New Democratic Party on September 7, 2007 07:32 AM
16. We don't "debate the issues" because we don't want to let a leftist frame the debate. The issues really revolve around her character and performance: she's a weak candidate who does what her leftist nutroots tell her to do, and she's attempting to fake her way to winning by lying about her credentials. She might spout a sentence or to that agrees with what I believe, but her character shows her to be unreliable at best and likely just a charlatan.

I don't really care about spelling - anyone can make mistakes.

Posted by: steve miller on September 7, 2007 08:31 AM
17. Sometimes it's hard to get perspective or distance from the net roots. They can create a lot of smoke.

Well, 'smoke' wasn't the first word to come to my mind when thinking of what the nutroots create. But it starts with the same letter.

Posted by: jimg on September 7, 2007 08:42 AM
18. As Seattle Jew is no doubt aware Darcy lacks any meaningful connection to her community. She only rarely voted, until she "realized" people might look at public records to see how long she had been voting in the district. She doesn't volunteer, isn't active in any public service organizations and has never held a position of public responsibility. Sure she went to college and worked in the IT industry..goodie for her. Walk down any street in Bellevue or Redmond look to your left or right and you can probably find the same qualifications. Darcy has ambition, but apparently lacks the will to do the hard work of serving her community unless she can start at the top. Let the whining begin, again.

Posted by: Huh? on September 7, 2007 08:49 AM
19. SeattleJew: do you practice being illogical? if so, it shows!

Darcy is not competent; or at least, has never demonstrated competence. She has no experience in government and has demonstrated no ability to think for herself.

Darcy's views are not middle of the road. They are far left, as demonstrated by her close ties to Kos et al. Even for King County (her part of it, anyway) she's far left. The only reason she came as close as she did is because of the war; take away the war and she loses with barely 40 percent of the vote, if that.

She is ambitious and committed, that's true. How that matters, I don't know.

As to "the ruling party," this is the biggest load of "bullshit" around. You are the one who just said only idiots care if someone is a Democrat or Republican, and then you say it's a plus that she's a Democrat. So I have no problem calling you an idiot, since you called yourself one. Although you could just be dishonest.

More to the point, however, ANY honest evaluation of the facts shows that Reichert will have MUCH more impact in Congress representing his district than Darcy would. How can any "idiot" think that Darcy would have ANY impact in DC? She would be expected to simply follow party line, and she would do so, and she would never get anything done for her district, unless some other more powerful Democrat wanted it done.

Take port security. When Reichert speaks about that in Congress, people from both parties listen, and he has an impact. If Darcy spoke on such issues (or any others), no one from either party would care. To the Democrats, she is just a warm body to vote with them.

Posted by: pudge on September 7, 2007 09:10 AM
20. Darcy Burner reflects the views and beliefs of urban Seattle voters. She is very popular there.

The 8th district is not Seattle. In fact, most of us who live there kind of consider the views and beliefs there as something of a folly.

No wonder Burner still got her tail kicked in an election cycle when Democrats routed Republicans, even though she got tons of money poured into her campaign from out of state.

She's the replacement for Heidi Barrens-Benedict, who used to run (and lose) every election cycle against Dunn. We're more than happy to have her wasting democratic election contributions here.

Posted by: johnny on September 7, 2007 12:09 PM
21. A tape was just released today from someone who agrees with darcy's view on the democrats inaction regarding troop pull out in Iraq. I understand that he doesn't live in the 8th district, and his family has a-lot of money. Perhaps she should put him on her steering committee.

Posted by: Moondoggie on September 7, 2007 01:17 PM
22. Um, Eric, opposing FISA is not a liberal position, it's a libertarian one. Standing up against presidential powers is not simple partisanship. If Hillary was president and asking for the same powers, it would be primarily Republicans fighting against the exact same bill. Would that mean that those people are far-right?

Posted by: thehim on September 7, 2007 02:44 PM
23. Hillary doesn't need the FISA court, she still has copies of all those FBI Files. Darcy is too self centered to see the big picture of National Security.

Posted by: Huh? on September 7, 2007 03:00 PM
24. Seattle Jew: Was that a freudian slip, or did you actually say "ruling party"? Don't you mean "majority party"? Every once in a while, one of the progressives slips up and lets their true feeling shine through. And that's precisely why progressive liberals will go down in flames, because in America we do not have a "ruling party". (except for maybe Queen Christine).

Posted by: katomar on September 7, 2007 03:14 PM
25. thehim, it is not a libertarian position to oppose presidential powers. It is a libertarian position to want to keep Presidential powers within their constitutional limits. Those are two very different things, but many so-called libertarians often treat them as the same thing.

That is, it is irrational to say some expression of presidential authority is wrong. You have to show that it is actually unconstitutional.

Also, no, I would not oppose this if it were from Hillary. The one issue I backed Clinton on was when he properly asserted executive authority, because you're right, it is not a partisan issue. Too bad a lot of Democrats forgot that so quickly. Sure, a lot of Republicans forgot it too, but they had less recent history to go by.

Posted by: pudge on September 8, 2007 12:31 AM
26. They are far left, as demonstrated by her close ties to Kos et al.

Hah! Guilt by association. Name the fallacy pudge as you're so fond of doing.

Kos also supported Stephanie Herseth. Are you saying she's also a "Seattle urban" type?

[In a mocking tone] How can you possibly expect people to accept this nonsense?

When people hear Dave Reichert talk, they clear their throats and cast their eyes down in embarrassment.

Here's the proof.

Posted by: John on September 8, 2007 12:13 PM
27. John,

Darcy links to her buds at Firedoglake and HA as well as Huffington Post, NPI and Daily Kos. Let's just tell every family in the 8th to sit down together and read any random five threads at say HA, or NPI will Darcy freely admit these folks think and act in a way that she values? She takes money from them, why wouldn't we assume she will do their bidding? She has never held any position of public responsibility so why would the 8th let her start as a US Congress member? We have to judge her by the company she keeps and what she apparently values. That is why she lost the last time around and will again this time.

Posted by: Huh? on September 8, 2007 01:28 PM
28. Duh @ 27

There you go again. Guilt by association. Darcy embraces the new media and guess what Duh? She just raised 130 grand to stay competitive with your guy who can't string two thoughts together and who gladly accepts the help of Mr. 25 percent hob nobbing in his taxpayer supported 747. I call that smart.

Is Stephanie Herseth doing the bidding of Kos, Atrios and Josh Marshall? No, she's representing the views of the people in her district. I wouldn't want her doing anything else. If she joins with her party on crucial national issues that's great but if she doesn't well that's just politics.

But you stuck on stupid McCarthyites will still cling to your shopworn talking points. I wouldn't expect nothing more from you.

Posted by: John on September 8, 2007 04:07 PM
29. John, you seem to believe that anyone would give your opinion about Darcy an ounce of credibility...most do not. I live just up the valley from Darcy and have for 30 years, I know most of the electeds from Duvall to Pacific personally. Darcy is a fiction, she has no substance, she associates with foul mouthed Camp Wellstone Socialists and has no respect for the people she wants to represent. Until you can speak to the fact that she is not involved in her local community and has never expressed a desire to serve in a capacity of "team member" instead of "Congress Member" she will never win the 8th. Do you even live here in the 8th John?

Posted by: Huh? on September 8, 2007 05:26 PM
30. Mere name-calling and fear-mongering duh. It's all people like you have left.

Your district is trending Dem - and people like you with your kind of positions and tactics and attitude have only yourselves to blame.

Posted by: John on September 8, 2007 06:24 PM
31. Well I assumed you would at least try to answer the questions...I guess I was wrong. If you cannot engage in a defense of Darcy using examples of how she has proven herself to the community she wishes to represent we have nothing more to discuss. She is not qualified, she has made no effort to serve her community, she simply wants to start at the top of the political food chain. The sad thing is that the local Democratic Party works very hard to make sure she has no primary opponents that might give their voters a choice. I cannot seem to find the name calling or fear-mongering that you claim so we can assume you are wrong about that as well.

Posted by: Huh? on September 8, 2007 08:12 PM
32. John:

Hah! Guilt by association. Name the fallacy pudge as you're so fond of doing.

It's not guilt by association. It's not guilt, it's mere association. There's a difference. If you still prefer to call it "guilt," fine, then in this case the guilt IS the association.

It's not the same thing as guilt by association, where the guilt is distinct from the association: for example, I work with John Smith and have beers with him after work; if we find out he is a member of the KKK, that doesn't make me racist. However, if I join the KKK, or if they endorse me and I accept that endorsement enthusiastically, then yeah, that makes me a racist.

The question was simply whether she is far left. Yes, she is, and a big part of the evidence for that is her close ties to the nutroots. There's nothing fallacious about that.

Also, I have never used the term "Seattle urban," and I don't know what it means to you, so I cannot answer that question.

Posted by: pudge on September 9, 2007 12:31 AM
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