November 06, 2007
King County's Counters Capitulate

The P-I's Daniel Lathrop updates:

Well, not to say that news coverage has an effect on public officials, but after this story ran in today's P-I I got a voice mail from King County Elections spokeswoman Bobbie Egan. Egan told me that officials are now planning to release legislative district breakdowns of the vote some time on Friday. They still maintaining that there is still too much "QC" (quality control) to do on precinct breakdowns because -- amongst other things -- there might be small precincts where everyone voted the same way.
An election expert e-mails:
As usual it is complete BS. My guess is that they need the extra time to go over the results and make sure that they didn't give out the wrong ballot style etc. Cover their big asses.
In all fairness to King County Elections officials, the sizes of their asses is not the problem.

Posted by Stefan Sharkansky at November 06, 2007 02:55 PM | Email This
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1. Now they are worried about quality control?!?!?!? If Sims and the election department really cared about quality control, Rossi would be governor. When "renaming" the county, it should have become King Clownty with a jester hat for the logo.

Posted by: Burdabee on November 6, 2007 03:41 PM
2. Your election expert has it right. They need the time to review their data and make any changes necessary to cover their butts. They don't want to be caught fudging the numbers again so they will make damn sure any discrepancies are "corrected" so they are very unlikely to see the light of day.

Posted by: RJK on November 6, 2007 03:51 PM
3. Stefan--
I agree that the "size" of the KCE KLOWNS asses is not the issue.
However, the fact that their heads up their asses is!!
Releasing the raw data is important. It shows the Public how many "changes" are made post-count. What is wrong with that?
I have no problem with "changes" in data as long as the "changes" are documented and appropriate according to L-A-W!!

As far as the Precindt Information........every County I've ever had contact with (which is 6) gladly released that information. All they had to do was press a button on Election Night and the "By-Precindt" report was generated. All ELECTED AUDITOR/ELECTION OFFICIALS clearly explained that this data may change for a variety of LEGITIMATE reasons.

It ain't that tough.

Posted by: Mr. Cynical on November 6, 2007 04:03 PM
4. I don't understand what quality control has to do with small precincts voting all the same way.

Can someone please explain that to me?

Quality control shouldn't depend on the choice people made at the ballot box - it should be concerned with ballot authentication and the accuracy of the tabulation process.

What am I missing here?

Posted by: Smoley on November 6, 2007 05:41 PM
5. Stefan: small precincts are a concern. But if their software cannot handle automatically blanking out small precincts, then that is mismanagement by KC elections.

Smoley: the point is that if you release the results by precinct, and only, say, five people voted in a precinct, and maybe you know who those people are, and they all voted the same way ... well, now voter secrecy/privacy is eliminated.

This actually happened to me in a primary, here in Snohomish County. I was in the newspaper announcing I would vote at the voting machine. The election canvass report broke down precincts by how many people voted at the voting machine, and how many by mail. Well, only two people in my precinct voted at the voting machine, and they both voted the same way.

So quite literally, my votes in that primary are a public record, when combined with the relatively innocuous article in the Herald. Look up my precinct (either through the voter DB, or my election as PCO, or through our home purchase), then look up the primary election canvass for that precinct, and you know how I voted.

That's a Bad Thing.

Incidentally, this problem has now been fixed here in Snohomish County, and voting machine counts are not broken out separately any longer.

Posted by: pudge on November 7, 2007 09:57 AM
6. Smoley: In effect, if all the voters in a precinct voted the same way and it is published, everyone would know how each voter in that precinct voted. Election law prohibits that becaue it violates the secrecy of the voters ballot.

This situation is not very common, but there are some precincts with as few as a dozen or fewer voters.

One of the big problems with printing out the precinct data before the results are final is with the number of precincts, over 2000 as I recall, and the length of the report which is literally hundreds of pages long. So producing the reults once is also a big cost savings item.

Eventually KC Elections should be able to put this information on-line so that it can be extracted electronically as it is tabulated.

Posted by: Desert Rat on November 13, 2007 01:47 PM
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