May 18, 2008
McCain's Potential Troubles

We've given much talk here recently to some potential weaknesses facing Barack Obama in the fall. In part, there is value to having such discussion even as some Obama supporters whistle past Dixie, proclaiming all to be ok.

Meanwhile, John McCain's weaknesses have been pretty well-discussed. Age, lack of interest in some domestic issues, unenthused GOP base, etc. A couple more, however, have showed some leg recently, haven't yet become real problems, but look like they could potentially explode on him in the fall if events sour.

1) His wife's tax returns. It simply will not do for Mr. Campaign Finance Reform himself to not have the full returns of both he and his wife made public. This is standard fare in modern Presidential politics. The media will not let the issue rest if her returns, covering her sizable fortune, are not released.

2) The lobbyist issue. Having to re-vet your own staff after winning the nomination is a huge alarm bell. Even over this weekend there has been another Team McCain casualty on this front, plus the Obama campaign is beginning to press the matter.

Just as with the tax return issue, it will not do for Mr. Reformer to be stuck talking about lobbyists and influence peddling among his own team rather than taking it to Obama on ties to '60's radicals, his liberal voting record, lack of legislative accomplishments, flawed foreign policy, and such.

3) The lack of excitement in the GOP base has already been mentioned. Nevertheless, our own region showcased McCain's tightrope act here.

McCain came to town to talk global warming, earning boffo coverage for his outreach to independents. Danny Westneat wrote the kind of column praising McCain that drives Democrats nuts - and was promptly picked up by the Politico's Jonathan Martin. David Postman also gave McCain the kind of coverage his campaign wants to use to reach the less partisan suburbanites.

All well and good, but as anyone following politics knows it drove the GOP base bonkers. Poke, meet eye. Eye, meet poke. A full embrace of a liberal issue is a non-starter for the conservative right. For that universe, talking energy, conservation, and a clean environment are one thing. Drinking the kool-aid that greenhouse gases cause hurricanes is another (oops!).

You can argue the merits of the issue all you want. The point with McCain is that he only has a handful of times he can get away with aggravating his base between the spring and November. And he has already used a big one up.

Posted by Eric Earling at May 18, 2008 09:43 PM | Email This
Comments
1. It's not a vote for McCain, it's a vote against Obama.

Posted by: Jeff B. on May 18, 2008 09:36 PM
2. Compared to Hillary and Obama, McCain looks pretty good. Sure the conservative base would like to see someone different, but some years that's just the way it is. He's miles ahead of Obama on foreign policy, and definitely a bigger fan of his own country than Obama and more experienced in all areas of concern. Obama has too many bizarre associations with sleazeball Rezko, unrepentant communist/terrorist Ayres, his marxist-preaching church, anti-american wife etc. In this election, I'm voting McCain.

Posted by: Michele on May 18, 2008 09:36 PM
3. EXACTLY = McCain cannot continue raising his middle finger to conservatives and expect their support. TRUE = We have no where else to go, but enought will just not go to the polls to cost this guy the election.

Depress the base, and you depress the vote FOR YOU. McCain has been depressing the conservative base for years.

I do not identify myself as a Republican = I identify myself as a conservative. Cannot do Obama nor Clinton, but not excited by McCain

Posted by: Dick on May 18, 2008 09:42 PM
4. I think it is pretty funny that Sen Obama is pushing the issue over staff memebers. I do agree that it is pretty sad that Sen McCain is having to re-vet his staff to check for ties to lobbyists, but I think it is far worse that Sen Obama has had to re-vet his staff to check for ties with terrorists.

Posted by: TrueSoldier on May 18, 2008 09:43 PM
5. I would rather vote against McCain AND Obama. Neither deserve my vote and neither will get it.

Unfortunately one will win, but at least I will have my dignity!

Posted by: Lysander on May 18, 2008 09:46 PM
6. You forgot to mention...

4) mr campaign reform himself also broke campaign finance rules by using matching funds while also exceeding the limit imposed on candidates that use such funds.

Posted by: Lysander on May 18, 2008 09:48 PM
7. I really don't care about his wifes tax returns.

They have filed taxes separately the entire 28 years of their marriage, (Happy Anniversary by the way... it was yesterday) have separate incomes and an iron clad pre-nup agreement. What purpose does it serve to have the class envy set pouring over every single line in HER 28 years of tax forms? Nothing would relate to the husband running for office. This is dirt digging 101, plain and simple.

I wonder, though, has this ever come up in any of his other campaigns? How was it resolved?

Posted by: Ragnar Danneskjold on May 18, 2008 10:01 PM
8. Anyone who sits out this General Election because Senator McCain is not ''perfect enough'' for them is helping to elect Obama (almost a lock, now), just as much as someone who actively marks the ballot for the (D). Whatever people who do that call themselves, it cannot with any sense of honesty be ''conservative''.

And for those who might try and claim there would be little difference between a President McCain and Obama:
Get real; and GIVE ME A BREAK.

As she has done on other threads, in #2 above Michele gives a good and concise summary of just a few things.
And also as before, I add:
Obama has been objectively rated as THE most liberal member of the US Senate.

So Senator McCain is not with some of you on 100 percent of all the issues you care about. I don't care if it's only ~50 percent of the time (it's certainly a lot more than that for me):
Get over it:

A President Obama will be with you close enough to ZERO percent of the time that the difference doesn't matter. Talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face (yeah: I'm getting more than a little tired of people who seem willing to let the country go down the tubes; just to (they seem to think) give them a better chance to elect what they consider their perfect candidate next time. That kind of ''next time'' may NEVER come.

Posted by: Methow Ken on May 18, 2008 10:23 PM
9. FOOTNOTE to my last:

Major touche by True Soldier at #4.

Posted by: Methow Ken on May 18, 2008 10:27 PM
10. Eric ignores the twin elephants in the room:

1) The economy stinks, and the electorate has good reasons for their belief that Republican overspending was largely the cause. The rout against Republicans that began in 2006 is still happening, as proven by several mid-term elections where Republicans in normally safe gerrymandered districts lost.

2) The electorate has turned against the Iraq war, but McCain has no chance of coming to the center on this issue. He has been too hawkish to ever do that.

Since these are the two most important issues before the electorate, and since McCain is toast on both of them, he will lose in November.

All of the points Eric frets about in his article above pale in comparison to these twin elephants in the room.

Dick @ 3: We DO have somewhere else to go. If Ron Paul is not the GOP nominee, as seems likely, we can vote Libertarian. Bob Barr will probably get the LP nomination. I'll be voting Libertarian. This sends a clearer message to the GOP, which will lose anyway, than holding your nose and voting for McCain.

Posted by: Bruce Guthrie on May 18, 2008 11:35 PM
11. Bruce,

As you noted, Congress changed power in 2006 to the Democrats and yet in two years are we any better off than we were before they took over power?

I do believe that the loss of power in 2006 by the Republican party was brought on by their lack of fiscal conservatism, but we have not seen any better restraint under the Democrats since. You might also note that the Democrats ran under an anti-war banner yet they have not pulled the plug on the war like they claimed they would (not that I agree with pulling the plug on the war).

As for the public turning against the war, my question is would the public still feel that way if they actual heard all the good news stories that are in Iraq. Newsbusters.org does a good job of showing the bias in the media. Here is just one example of it:

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/warner-todd-huston/2008/05/12/sacbee-anti-war-bias-hidden-tale-iraqi-girl-getting-new-legs-us-

Posted by: TrueSoldier on May 19, 2008 01:39 AM
12. True Soldier, I agree with you that the D's would have been even less fiscally responsible. They would have spent as much but raised taxes instead of inflating the currency to pay for it.

I also agree that the Iraq war was a bipartisan mistake. The liberals who hope that Hillary Clinton or Obama will bring the troops home are probably in for a rude awakening.

I think that when the American people were told about the war, they assumed we'd get in, fix things and get out. One or two years was the max duration. But we are there for five years, and McCain would be happy to occupy Iraq for 100 years. Americans don't want that. They want an end to this.

Personally, I think the Iraq war was about helping a few oil corporations preserve their investments. If Saddam had taken over Kuwait, he still would have had to sell the oil, and he would not have had the power to set world oil prices. So if it wasn't about the price at the pump, it had to be about the specific oil contracts.

We had no business going in there.

I'm a free market fan, but giving special interest handouts to big corporations is not free market, and just tends to give capitalism a bad name.

The backlash that began in 2006 is still happening. Expect more GOP losses in November. I'm not particularly happy about this, just calling 'em as I see 'em.

I think the Libertarian Party will grow a bit this year. Disapproval of the two old parties is at an all-time high.

Posted by: Bruce Guthrie on May 19, 2008 04:33 AM
13. Ragnar,
The issue with McCain's wife's wealth does have a campaign tie. During the primaries, when McCain was really strapped for cash, he used his wife's (company?) private jet to fly around to campaign events. Therefore, the wealth comes into play when it provides perks, loans, or other goodies to the campaign that are outside the box of regular campaign finances. For Mr. Campaign Finance Reform, this along with the lobbyists gives him a bad name. The best thing to do is for his campaign to reimburse Cindy McCain for the cost of the use of jet. It is an expense that should be accounted for.

Posted by: tc on May 19, 2008 07:12 AM
14.
I want to know about the sources of his campaign finances. His campaign has always been awash with money...where is it coming from? Why is there zero scrutiny? Who is laundering all the cash in the Obama network?

Posted by: John Bailo on May 19, 2008 08:03 AM
15. Some commenters should be challenged. It's all about the oil is an old chestnut used during Viet Nam by the anti-war folk. Please explain how America gained oil from the Iraq war. Iraq's oil revenues provided support for Hussein efforts to destabilize the region. The invasion of Kuwait proves Hussein's willingness to invade bordering countries; threatening other countries in the region; support a variety of terrorist organizations; buying weapons and deploying them against citizens and UN forces (remember firing on patrol planes. In short no evidence suggest that American oil companies or Bush and his administration benefited in any way from the Iraq war from oil. Please provide some oil evidence or admit it is nothing more then Bush hating rhetoric.

For one reason or another American forces have been stationed in Japan and Germany since the end of WWII. That is over 60 years. Are you suggesting we should remove these forces?

More American troops died during the Clinton administration then during the Bush administration. Care to comment on that little fact and the follies in Serbia and Africa led by BJ Clinton.

Posted by: Snuffy on May 19, 2008 08:21 AM
16. I agree with Ragnar @ 7. The reason that it is "standard fare in modern presidential politics", is because most candidates and their spouses file jointly. Cindy McCain is a private citizen who files separately from her husband and has for many years. She has every right to disclose or not disclose her tax returns to the general public. Everyone understands that she is very wealthy ,so why is it neccessary to air what is already widely known for anything but voyeuristic purposes?

Posted by: Rick D. on May 19, 2008 08:37 AM
17. "during the primaries, when McCain was really strapped for cash, he used his wife's (company?) private jet to fly around to campaign events....It is an expense that should be accounted for."

...It has been. She was compensated by Mr. McCain's campaign when he paid a total of $241,149 for the use of that plane from last August through February. Where's the beef?

The law specifically exempts aircraft owned by a candidate or his family or by a privately held company they control.

So I ask again, Where's the beef?

Posted by: Rick D. on May 19, 2008 08:53 AM
18. I think the Libertarian Party will grow a bit this year. Disapproval of the two old parties is at an all-time high.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Gezzz, how many times have I heard this one. Yet it never happens.

The RP folks just never give up.

Posted by: Army Medic/Vet on May 19, 2008 09:30 AM
19. Cindy McCain is a private citizen who files separately from her husband and has for many years.

Her millions got her husband started in politics way back in 1982, that signals to me that her tax returns are fair game. She recently had to divest her monetary interests in Sudan...which no one would have known about. Obviously some vetting going on behind the scenes.

Seems only fair that the public know what she has and how it could possibly influence the campaign and the White House.

Posted by: Cato on May 19, 2008 10:20 AM
20. Rick D,
I wasn't aware that the campaign has reimbursed for use of the jet.

Posted by: tc on May 19, 2008 10:27 AM
21. I wasn't aware that the campaign has reimbursed for use of the jet.

The fact that she's helping him out is a need for her to be vetted. She would hold a very important role an first lady should he win. Even Bill C., the potential first husband released his tax returns.

Posted by: Cato on May 19, 2008 10:42 AM
22. "The fact that she's helping him out is a need for her to be vetted."

wrong. There has been no violation of the FEC laws. He could have used the plane without paying a red cent under the laws.(See 3rd paragraph @ 17).

"Even Bill C., the potential first husband released his tax returns."

Yes, because they file jointly.

Posted by: Rick D. on May 19, 2008 11:11 AM
23. Geez, McCain never said he was a saint with regards to lobbyists. You are falling into the Democrat Fly Trap. I always heard him say he wasn't any better or worse than any of the other politicians. He took lobbyist money just like everyone else.

But, if you have a story that he took money illegally or unethically, then have at it- Daschle and his wife regarding the air accident comes to mind.

Other than a perverse desire to know the details of the celebrity- read Brittany and Lindsay- why should anyone care if one persons wife or spouse gives money to the spouse? Get real, Cato and tc, for your nonexistent nexus.

Posted by: swatter on May 19, 2008 11:31 AM
24. There has been no violation of the FEC laws

I never said their was, but since she loaned in it was clearly a donation on her part. All potential first lady's (and first husband) have released their returns, what's she got to hide?

Yes, because they file jointly.

And you are making excuses...as a potential benefactor of the highest office in the nation she should show America her tax returns.

Posted by: Cato on May 19, 2008 04:15 PM
25. "I never said their(sic) was, but since she loaned in it was clearly a donation on her part."

False. As I said in the post @17, the campaign reimbursed Cindy McCain for the use of the jet even though it was not required to do so since the law specifically exempts aircraft owned by a candidate or his family or by a privately held company they control from being considered in-kind contributions.

"All potential first lady's (and first husband) have released their returns, what's she got to hide?"

False. To date, Teresa Heinz Kerry has never released her personal tax returns.
I guess if it applies to Mrs. Kerry, shouldn't it also apply to Mrs. McCain? I thought so.


Posted by: Rick D. on May 19, 2008 06:08 PM
26. If the Republicans lie dormant and don't get excited about the election, they will have truly lived up to the nickname of "the Stupid Party". They would be enabling Obama to be elected and cause the left to control the agenda - in time of war ? Yikes !

The Repubs also have alot of work to do if they want to hold their own in Congressional elections, although I think McCain will run stronger than many incumbents. However, McCain will have get out in front and respond to his opponent and get some help from conservatives.

Another stupid notion is to believe that if McCain loses, another Reaganesque candidate for President will be there in 2012 to win. That kind of strategy will not only hurt our economy and security for a number of years, but it could also be irreversible.

Posted by: KS on May 19, 2008 08:55 PM
27. B Obama will do for liberals what G. Bush did for conservatives. He is just as dumb, but more articulate. McCain is from the FDR wing of the Democratic party, if he is elected he splits the Republican vote, liberalism runs rampant. If B. Obama is elected, he spends his first 2 years making an idiot of himself, conservatives unite and nothing bad goes through.

Vote B. Obama ... a useful idiot from the G. Bush wing of a frat party.

Posted by: John McDonald on May 19, 2008 09:45 PM
28. Cato,

I don't recall you complaining about John Kerry's use of his wife's corporate jet during his campiagn in 2004. If it was not an issue with John Kerry then why is it an issue with John McCain?

Posted by: TrueSoldier on May 19, 2008 10:18 PM
29. One thing you get good marks for Eric is the honesty about McCain. You didn't mention all his negatives, but it does show that Republicans are more sober minded and grounded in reality than the starry eyed awe struck giddy school girl Democrats who think every word out of their candidate's mouth is a pearl of wisdom.

I think that intelligent voters will see through the cult like followers of Obama that dictate to the blasphemers that he can do no wrong. Though a McCain win is no victory for me. Don't think for a nanosecond I want the empty suit who doesn't even know about Hanford and yet wants to talk nukes with Iran. Perhaps Amadinejahd can tell Obama about Hanford.

Posted by: pbj on May 19, 2008 10:34 PM
30. Since McCain is for affirmative action ...

Vote for Obama! It will be our own form of affirmative action, especially since Barak is clearly too dumb to be president of all 57 states, totally unqualified, and went to the Black equivalent of an aryan nation church for 20 years - can you think of a better person to patronize. Some white guy just isn't going to get the white house job, but don't worry McCain there is always 2012 - you just had such a blessed life made possible by all of your relatives being racist slave holders why not share some of your blessing with a random person from a different race.

(I actually have no idea what McCain's family history is, but affirmative action treats all whites as if they need to be punished. Even though lots of whites fought and died to free the slaves, and many came to America after slavery was banned)

Posted by: John McDonald on May 20, 2008 01:43 AM
31. "There has been no violation of the FEC laws"

Wrong. He used matching funds and then exceeded the spending limits imposed on candidates that use matching funds.

Posted by: Lysander on May 20, 2008 05:36 AM
32. Lysander, you took that out of context. The qoute was referring to McCain's use of his wife's plane which does not violate FEC laws.

Posted by: TrueSoldier on May 20, 2008 06:01 AM
33. Lysander -

You're totally incorrect on the matching funds issue. McCain, like Howard Dean in the 2004 cycle, applied to be eligible to receive matching funds in the primary but never actually took the next step of accepting them...in part for the very spending limits you note that would hamstring a campaign.

And please don't bore us with the Democratic line that he used his FEC matching fund eligibility to get on the ballot in Ohio, therefore he benefited from them so should be held to the spending limits for money he never received.

Posted by: Eric Earling on May 20, 2008 07:17 AM
34. Obama has stated that everyone else in the world is smart enough to control what you eat except you.

Obama sez Only the UN should set your thermostat and decide what you eat. You are just not smart enough to do it.

Posted by: Kudzu Fire on May 20, 2008 05:23 PM
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