June 09, 2008
Obama Starts to Meet the General Election Grinder

By now we've all heard the tales of the Barack Obama faithful, poo-pooing the notion that some demographic groups that showed hesitancy toward Obama in Democratic primaries will show similar rectitude come November. Today we saw hint of why and the mechanics of how some of those weaknesses may well unfold.

First, however, go back to some brief thoughts from Bill Bennett early last week, before Hillary Clinton bowed out of the nomination contest:

And thus the Democratic party is about to nominate a far left candidate in the tradition of George McGovern, albeit without McGovern's military and political record. The Democratic party is about to nominate a far-left candidate in the tradition of Michael Dukakis, albeit without Dukakis's executive experience as governor. The Democratic party is about to nominate a far left candidate in the tradition of John Kerry, albeit without Kerry's record of years of service in the Senate. The Democratic party is about to nominate an unvetted candidate in the tradition of Jimmy Carter, albeit without Jimmy Carter's religious integrity as he spoke about it in 1976. Questions about all these attributes (from foreign policy expertise to executive experience to senatorial experience to judgment about foreign leaders to the instructors he has had in his cultural values) surround Barack Obama. And the Democratic party has chosen him.

Obama boosters looking past his electoral deficiencies, while boosting his amazing, concurrent prowess in fundraising and grassroots mobilization, have underestimated the points Bennett makes.

Consider that Obama's own "bitter" comments and Father Pfleger's intemperate discussion of Hillary Clinton - the final straw that sent him for the Trinity United exits - were products of media coverage, not the supposed "Republican attack machine." Even the full trauma of Jeremiah Wright was much more a function of 4th Estate fascination with the pastor's mini-media tour rather than right-of-center concern with the content of some of Wright's past sermons (and Barack Obama's choice to sit in those pews for twenty years).

The point being, Obama still has several months in which general election voters are going to learn a lot more about him. For good or for ill, voters already have a core perception of John McCain that will be difficult to change beyond the margins. It's an entirely different scenario for Obama.

Precious little time has been spent thus far examining the Senate voting record that landed him the "most liberal Senator" tag. Furthermore, the dynamics of the Democratic primary meant that Obama's own left-of-center policy proposals received sparse dissection given the lack of variance with Clinton's counterparts.

These topics will be explored at greater length by the McCain campaign, the RNC, 3rd party groups, the media, and the blogosphere. At the same time, it is hardly likely that Jeremiah Wright, Father Pfleger, and Bill Ayers won't be making a return trip to a media cycle or two this fall.

It is difficult to understate the degree to which the idea that Obama is supposedly advancing some sort "new politics" will not always work out so well. One can't run for President as a nominee of a major party without maintaining significant ties to one's respective party establishment. The downside of that association came roaring to the fore today.

John McCain went after Obama VP vetter Jim Johnson for having ties that look unseemly in partnership with Obama's current campaign image. Readers of the Corner were already familiar with Johnson's potential PR liability, and know in addition that fellow VP selection team-member Eric Holder may turn out to be a massive problem as well given his active role in the abominable pardon-fest of the waning days of the Clinton administration (coverage here and here).

The baggage of VP vetters will ultimately prove to be of little consequence in November. Yet, stories like these not only serve as a steady drip-drip that eventually sullies a candidate's broader image, they invariably throw the campaign off-message. Today Obama was kicking off a two-week tour talking economic issues. Instead of taking it to McCain on an issue that remains a key vulnerability for the Republican candidate, Obama's campaign was playing defense.

Regular repetition of such a turn of affairs plays right into a key point from a now-much discussed McCain strategy briefing:

A slide at the 2:08 mark highlights the degree to which McCain is more aligned with the self-identified ideological views of the American electorate than is Obama. At the 8:59 mark is a slide offering the same filter for the narrower universe of key battleground states. McCain's alignment and Obama's dissonance in those states is even more profound than the national benchmark.

Now consider those slides represent current reality, before the issues and dynamics discussed above further shape the electorate's view of Obama. What are the odds the full vetting of an inexperienced, urban, liberal Senator will turn up even more warts than that which have already been discovered since the turn of the year?

It remains entirely possible that McCain could run a somewhat turgid campaign, fail to connect with voters on pocketbook issues, never excite his own conservative base, and generally be made to look like the past rather than the future. Yet, a betting man would be hard-pressed not to recognize that Obama's potential downside looks awfully substantial at this juncture. Today we got an expanded look into why. Surely, there is more to come.

Posted by Eric Earling at June 09, 2008 09:40 PM | Email This
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1. I don't think you guys will win this one: GWB has so tarnished the GOP image that it's unlikely that McCain will win.

Posted by: Politically Incorrect on June 9, 2008 09:54 PM
2. And the Democrats in congress are tarnishing the Democrat image. If McCain didn't piss on his base, he would win in an electoral landslide. I think this one is too close to call.

Posted by: AP on June 9, 2008 10:02 PM
3.
What exactly is more attractive about Obama for the 10% in the middle who wouldn't vote for Kerry?


Running an entire campaign on anti Bush sentiment isn't exactly sound judgement. Iraq numbers are getting better and non-talking head economists are predicting uptick in H2 08.

Posted by: Andy on June 9, 2008 10:09 PM
4. A little off topic, but did you know there is a legitimate question as to whether Obama is a US citizen, and therefore constitutionally eligible to become president of the United States?

His birth certificate would clear this up, but the Obamamessiah steadfastly refuses to release it.

The full story is at Little Green Footballs.

Posted by: Matt from Olympia on June 9, 2008 10:21 PM
5. Don't forget the favors from Rezko regarding his house purchase.

And I believe it was Rush who today made a good point: Why is Obama claiming to be the candidate of "change", when he couldn't change the corrupt Chicago political machine, of which he is a product?????

Posted by: Michele on June 9, 2008 10:22 PM
6. Politically Incorrect is thinking wishfully. People in the middle almost never vote for parties in executive elections, but for the individuals. Legislature they vote for parties all the time, but rarely executives.

Carter is one exception to the rule, and even then, he only barely pulled it off. And even then, Ford only lost because he actually pardoned Nixon, and was therefore tied closely to him: which is exactly why the Democrats are lying about McCain being tied closely to Bush on every issue.

Posted by: pudge on June 9, 2008 10:40 PM
7. Great insight by Bennett.
Obama is certainly the same old Far left Democrat product they've tried to sell to the American electorate for the past 30+ years, with little success. They theorize that if they just keep re-packaging it in a new eye-catching box with a "new and improved" label (Hope and change) and "Free toy inside" gimmick (Our time is now!) that the American consumer will finally take it off the shelf and consume it.

I'm betting that won't happen this time around either, but you have to admire their determination.

Posted by: Rick D. on June 10, 2008 06:53 AM
8. Obamarama was selected to run by the Democratic Party as he best expresses the socialist vision of the Democrats in a charming fashion of Hope and Change. It is as simple as that. Consider the current leaders of the Democrats. They are in alignment with and supportive of Obamarama. The Democrats probably believe that the time is ripe to try for the gold ring of socialism and the Republicans for reasons not entirely clear, choose not to challenge the socialist agenda of Democrats, run a flawed candidate. In either case the American citizens stand to lose much as our culture and values will be changed forever more.

It is sorry state in D.C. as the collective patience of voters will be dramatically tested for the next generation.

Posted by: Snuffy on June 10, 2008 08:09 AM
9.
McCain is really breaking through. Check out this speech, it's daring...:

McCain Criticizes CEOs' Pay in Speech to Small Business Group

``For too long, government has been the voice of big business, not small business,'' McCain said in a speech to the National Federation of Independent Business in Washington. ``Even when very large businesses violate their trust, they seem to be held to a different standard -- getting away with conduct that would leave any small-business owner broke.''

McCain told the group, which represents small- and medium- sized businesses, that ``something is seriously wrong when the American people are left to bear the consequences of reckless corporate conduct, while the offenders themselves are packed off with another $40 or $50 million for the road.''

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aTYXQYPP.Euk&refer=home

Posted by: John Bailo on June 10, 2008 08:42 AM
10. McCain is fighting Obama better than Bush Lite, Bush II, and Dole. For that, I am grateful he is not so polite as Bush II.

Posted by: swatter on June 10, 2008 09:52 AM
11. OOPS Obama and another problem with close friends.
Watch out for the bus!


http://hotair.com/archives/2008/06/10/obamas-hypocrisy-on-johnson-continues/

Posted by: Army Medic/Vet on June 10, 2008 09:53 AM
12. "With PROFOUND HUMILITY, we will look back at this day and say it is the day that the rise in the oceans will subside and the day the earth began to heal."

Barrack Obama, aka the Dalai Bama, last Tuesday June 3 as he won the nomination.

Come on Ronulans and McCain haters, I don't think the country can afford a four year backward twist while the Democrats screwup and hope your guy can get elected in 2012.

Posted by: swatter on June 10, 2008 10:00 AM
13. I think the messiah of the dingbats will loose in a landslide and leave us with McCain to deal with. McCain is one Repubican politician who I loath above all other Repubican politicians including "wide stance." I don't support him, I would never vote for him for any office and I have no use for him. I do admire his war record, but that does not mean that I am obligated to overlook his character as Senator or give him the benefit of the doubt as President. When elected I am hoping that he is mortally wounded politically and his time in the White House is nothing more than as a place holder.

Posted by: JDH on June 10, 2008 10:00 AM
14. And Who Complains?

We now are down to two presidential candidates. One went to the Ivy League and Harvard Law School as a young man. The other spent years of his youth in a Vietnam Prisoner of War camp and suffered lifelong injuries. Guess which one whines more about his hardships?

Barack Obama is many things -- a senator, a gifted orator, and a charismatic figure. But he's also a whiner.

Many observers believe that Barack Obama secured the liberal base of the Democratic party because he was antiwar from the beginning. But I think it's because he mastered the art of complaining and won over the Whine Caucus. Today the Democratic party is dominated by groups making claims of victim status -- blacks, Hispanics, Asians, Native Americans, unwed mothers, artists, pampered academics, environmental activists, the poor, the unemployed, animal rights activists, women, homosexuals. As Michael Crowley openly admits on Slate: "What does define and unify the [Democratic] party is a sense of victimhood."


OH YEAH, LET THE FUN BEGIN... AND ENJOY THE WHINE!

Posted by: Ragnar Danneskjold on June 10, 2008 11:41 AM
15. I'll admit bias on the opinion, but I would love to see the results of a survey of what sticks with voters

1- McCain is Bush's third term
2- Obama is Carter's second term.


Since 1980 I've never heard of "Carter's second term" used prior to this election- and it seems be sticking among pundits.

Posted by: Andy on June 10, 2008 12:33 PM
16. What concerns me about Senator Obama is the constant promises to "have the federal government reach out and touch every child, every elderly person, every person who has a need in America," April 20th speech. The role of the federal government is national defense, relations and economic issues between the states, foreign relations and so forth - not to touch everyone everywhere who has the slightest "need." This is more disconcerting to me than issues of his citizenship, personal religious upbringing, family ties abroad and his apparent lack of experience. I appreciate the conviction he has and the way he articulates it - but the message frankly scares me enough to consider him a prime socialist in the European mold - not a visionary in the American legacy. We are 50 states that make up a nation – not a nation that happens to have 50 artificial legal boundaries. We have challenges, we have issue, we have needs, but we also have the worlds largest egalitarian population, highest givers to charity and other causes and a people who know that government is limited for reasons of liberty and freedom – not because of “right-wing conspiracies” and racist – poverty hating selfish gun owners who cling to religion.

I would only ask both candidates to not tear each other down to build themselves up. I understand a contrast must be drawn - and that is necessary - but does so to highlight what you will do - not what the other can't do. There are enough pundits out there whose sole purpose in life is to define you - and you make it easier when you get off message.

Posted by: MAC on June 10, 2008 12:42 PM
17. Obama running for Jimmy Carter's second term. (bears repeating)

Posted by: Michele on June 10, 2008 12:45 PM
18. Wow am I glad to see this Carter comparison finally emerge. It's something I've had on my mind since the first time I saw Obama speak.

I guess the big challenge the GOP will have with this comparison is that most younger people today have never quite been taught how absolutely of a terrible president Jimmy Carter was. They just know him as that nice guy that builds houses for Habitats for Humanity.

I see Carter on television being critical of Bush on middle-east issues, and I just want to scream at the TV "You idiot, how dare you even open your mouth about the subject when 90% of this mess is something you created!"

Posted by: johnny on June 10, 2008 01:25 PM
19. MAC, sorry but in my profound humble opinion, the DalaiBama doesn't rise to the level of a legitimate candidate for the POTUS. How can I listen to an 'issues' discussion when I am revolted at what the Ds have nominated? I probably won't be discussing 'issues', but I will just be giving my profound humble opinions on the suitability of this "empty suit".

Posted by: swatter on June 10, 2008 01:37 PM
20. I saw a sign on a business in Everett the other day that sums up my feelings nicely:

"Would four years with no president really be that bad?"

Posted by: Ken on June 10, 2008 02:43 PM
21. there's an air of desperation in these parts.....

to highlight some of the "news" surrounding your candidate, john mcsame:

1. appears that he was for an estate tax before he was against it;

2. seems to have a lot more lobbyists getting free rides on the 'straight talk express bus' (including, of note, for your local business, lobbyists for airbus, on whose behalf mcsame intervened);

3. the right-wingers who have a permanent seat on faux news complaining about the 'lime green jello' appeal of mcsame: here's a sample:

here's a quote from bill kristol-meth:

"In any case, with the battle against Hillary Clinton behind him, everything seems to be going swimmingly for Obama. Meanwhile, the McCain campaign dog-paddles along. And almost every Republican I’ve talked to is alarmed that the McCain campaign doesn’t seem up to the task of electing John McCain."

4. and finally, in response to the 'carter's 2nd term' tag line:

Rasmussen, July 2007:

Jimmy Carter
Approve: 57
Disapprove: 34

George W. Bush
Approve: 41
Disapprove: 59

Posted by: dinesh on June 10, 2008 02:50 PM
22. Thanks for staying on topic, Dinesh.

I don't particularly like McCain, but I predict he wins handily over the unqualified Marxist Obamessiah, who surrounds himself with racists, terrorists, and corrupt old-time pols. Heck, he may not even be a U.S. citizen, and therefore may not be constitutionally qualified.

Posted by: Matt from Olympia on June 10, 2008 04:05 PM
23. "Yet, a betting man would be hard-pressed not to recognize that Obama's potential downside looks awfully substantial at this juncture. Today we got an expanded look into why. Surely, there is more to come."

So basically, Eric, you are predicting that Obama is going to lose because he is a weak candidate and that is going to show in the coming months. I will make my own prediction, of similar quality: that the Bulls trade their number one pick to the Sonics for Donyell Marshall.

Let's see how these predictions turn out...

Posted by: Noble on June 10, 2008 04:40 PM
24. The Democrats always pick from their far left, this one they had to reach into the far left field stands.

Change Change Change, you got that right, Tax, Tax, Tax, Spend, Spend, Spend.

No Thanks, I'm not interested.

Posted by: GS on June 10, 2008 06:43 PM
25. This is the only house that Senator Obama is qualified to run, and with some assistance from a staffer, he might just be able to figure out how to enter it when it's not occupied.

...and here I bet you thought those red flags/green flags on the door were supposed to idiot proof these places =)

Posted by: Rick D. on June 10, 2008 06:59 PM
26. Common sense ought to dictate that Obama is seriously flawed and cannot win, but given the mood of this country - it could happen.
I hope that conservatives will realize the gravity of his candidacy and not poo-pooh it, in other words - take NOTHING for granted.

McCain may not be a dynamic speaker, but he has the ability to think quickly on his feet and might do fairly well in the Town Hall meeting. He also needs to keep repeating that Obama will be Carter's second term. He also has altered his views on drilling for oil on land - good news. The enviro-Nazis have seriously crippled the energy industry and they need to get pushed out of the way for us to make any appreciable strides in lessening the reliance on OPEC oil and build more refineries and nuclear power plants.

Posted by: KS on June 10, 2008 08:46 PM
27. Common sense ought to dictate that Obama is seriously flawed and cannot win, but given the mood of this country - it could happen.
I hope that conservatives will realize the gravity of his candidacy and not poo-pooh it, in other words - take NOTHING for granted.

McCain may not be a dynamic speaker, but he has the ability to think quickly on his feet and might do fairly well in the Town Hall meeting. He also needs to keep repeating that Obama will be Carter's second term. He also has altered his views on drilling for oil on land - good news. The enviro-Nazis have seriously crippled the energy industry and they need to get pushed out of the way for us to make any appreciable strides in lessening the reliance on OPEC oil and build more refineries and nuclear power plants.

Posted by: KS on June 10, 2008 08:46 PM
28. Dinesh-
Thanks for proving my point.

As I said, America seems to forget what an idiot Carter was as President - mostly because the media doesn't remind people that things like the NEA, the fall of Iran into radical hands, etc. all happened on his watch.

I think Carter is a great spokesmodel for an organization that builds crackerbox houses, but I'd hate for the guy - or anyone that remotely thinks like him - to be President ever again.

Four years of Carter turned the tide of anti-GOP rhetoric post-Nixon and convinced US voters that Reagan was the right man for the job. (Maybe that's why he's popular.)

Posted by: johnny on June 11, 2008 09:13 AM
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