September 13, 2008
Polls I'd Like to See - UPDATED with Reichert v. Burner poll

Yes, polls aren't everything, but they sure can do a lot to shape the storyline of a campaign. Thus, based on the pro-Republican trend in recent polls, including favoring John McCain and Dino Rossi here in Washington, there are some other surveys it would be nice to see:

1) Dave Reichert v. Darcy Burner. Last we heard, public polling had Reichert ahead by six...in July. Individual polls always need to be taken with a grain of salt, but an updated barometer in light of recent events would be helpful.

UPDATE: ask and you shall receive...

SurveyUSA says Reichert up 10.

Is he actually up that much? I don't know. But I note his lead is either way likely significant, even while Burner has been on TV and he has not.

2) McCain v. Obama in Oregon, a state devoid of reported, post-Labor Day polling thus far. Our southern neighbor trends slightly less blue than the Evergreen State. If the supposed tightening in the Presidential race locally also extends south then there will be increasing evidence Obama might not have the usual Democratic havens of the Pacific Northwest locked down.

Obama's campaign having to forgo red states they once hoped to make competitive (Alaska, Georgia, North Carolina, etc.) is one thing. Having to play defense in blue states is another.

Not saying it's going to happen. But if polling in Oregon shows a similar trend to Washington, and if that state continues its pattern of being slightly more competitive than our own, then it wouldn't be far-fetched to see a spate of stories about how Obama is going to have to play defense in the Beaver State.

That's not what his campaign needs right now.

Posted by Eric Earling at September 13, 2008 10:43 AM | Email This
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1. Real Clear Politics shows a poll released a few days ago in their congressional session showing Riechert up ten

Posted by: Andre on September 13, 2008 10:44 AM
2. Any link to the 8th district poll? I live there and I want something to calm me down.

Posted by: Crusader on September 13, 2008 10:48 AM
3. In running the sleaziest campaign since South Carolina in 2000 and standing by completely debunked lies on national television, it's clear that John McCain would rather lose his integrity than lose an election.

Posted by: politicjock on September 13, 2008 11:00 AM
4. politicjock - got Panic? LOL. Heck, even over at Horses Poop blog they're in full panic mode. Even "Roger Rabbit" is not sounding so confident these days.

Posted by: Crusader on September 13, 2008 11:03 AM
5. Latest polls for WA 8th:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/house/wa/washington_8th_district-947.html

Posted by: poll4u on September 13, 2008 11:06 AM
6. jocksniffer... was that YOUR head I saw exploding? Ahhhh, how it sucks to be a leftist these days. Ahhharyuk!

Posted by: hinton on September 13, 2008 11:12 AM
7. poll4u - thanks! My mood is alot better now. I can't stand the idea of Ditzy Darcy representing me.

Posted by: Crusader on September 13, 2008 11:17 AM
8. BTW, Crosscut blog has no more pretenses that they're shills for the left.

Posted by: Crusader on September 13, 2008 11:20 AM
9. #3 is parroting the latest tack the left is taking, that McCain "lies". There was a big article in today's Seattle Times,(naturally taken from the New York Times), entitled: "Straight Talk runs off course".

The article says McCain "twisted Obama's words" when Obama talked about "putting lipstick on a pig". I guess that explains the explosion of cheering from Obama's audience the moment he used the phrase.

As the left sees the November elections they had taken for granted slipping away we will see this kind of "reporting" every day. Their desperation is showing.

Posted by: Bill Cruchon on September 13, 2008 12:48 PM
10. Darcy would be better at assistant manager at
Country Buffet. Not Congress. She seems nice
though she is way over her head and I would hate
to see her corrupted with all the dirtballs from
the democrat party.

Posted by: mark on September 13, 2008 01:35 PM
11. Just out of curiosity, just what would those "completely debunked lies" be?

Posted by: Mike H on September 13, 2008 01:45 PM
12. I guess maybe they were referring to today's New York Times story claiming McCain "lied" about Obama's "lipstick on a pig" reference this week.

It's wonderful to hear Democrats wringing their hands over Republican "lies".

David Boze never did find out who that poor guy was in Pennsylvania whom Obama claimed "couldn't even afford to buy gas so he could look for a job".

Yeah right. But don't expect any big New York Times articles about Democrat lies.

Posted by: Bill Cruchon on September 13, 2008 02:09 PM
13. If all of this holds up, the greatest payoff will be seeing Goldy's head explode on November 5th. I think it's looking pretty likely. America is waking up to just how pernicious and un-American the Marxist/Socialist ideas of the Progressives really are. And now that it is hitting pocket books hard, Americans are finally up for kicking ass on a Congress with one of the lowest approval ratings every.

Don't get me wrong lefties, I agree, Bush has been a big problem. And I agree that there are systemic problems in the US. But socialism is not the way to address our problems. Nor is hiding from real energy needs, bankrupting our economy with Global Warming Hysteria mandates, passing Universal Healthcare so we can wait in long lines in the US just like they do in Canada and the UK, etc.

For all of the problems on the right, the left's solutions will make things far worse. That's why it is important to vote Republican in most cases.

There are a few exceptions. If we can get Norm Dicks to get off of the Pelosi anti-energy bandwagon, then he will get my vote.


Posted by: Jeff B. on September 13, 2008 02:11 PM
14. I agree Jeff that Bush has been a problem. Primarily because he didn't put his foot down and control spending.

But we all know the game the Democrats play when Republicans cut spending. They and their media buddies go on endlessly about how cruel and unfeeling "big business" favoring Republicans are. It's always the same, Republicans hate kids and old people, want to "privatize social security" as a favor to their Wall Street buddies, and don't want anyone to go to college. We all saw the short lived lie they tried to tell about how Palin had "slashed funds for unwed mothers". Except it turned out that she actually had approved a massive funding increase.

I think it is true. For the first time since Ronald Reagan Americans who generally don't pay much attention to politics are wising up to who Democrats really are. They may not get that they are closet Marxists. They just might before this election cycle is over.

Posted by: Bill Cruchon on September 13, 2008 02:54 PM
15. Politicwimp,

In running the sleaziest campaign since South Carolina in 2000 and standing by completely debunked lies on national television

I'm sorry, which lies are those? You mean about Rev. Wright being a racist, America-hating Slaver? Or about the 20 year relationship between Obama and self-confessed-and-unrepentant terrorist William Ayers? You mean about the decade of corruption and cronyism with Tony Rezko?

Or maybe about Obama's support for "post birth abortion" - murder of newborn babies.

Or maybe about Obama's complete support for teaching sex ed to kindergarten classes?

I'm sorry, I've lost count of the huge number of "nuanced corrections" from the Obamassiah that I'm not sure which ones are the lies you're referring to.

Posted by: Shanghai Dan on September 13, 2008 03:32 PM
16. You couldn't open the door to Obama's closet for all the skeletons in there. But he gets pass after pass from the media that supports him.

Palin gets a bad apple State Trooper fired and suddenly it is the second coming of Watergate.

The more this shameful media goes after Sarah the more votes Republicans will get.

This truly is the worst of all nightmares for liberals...the year America found out what a bunch of lying slimy creepoid lawyers they are.

Posted by: Bill Cruchon on September 13, 2008 04:08 PM
17. I agree with Bill, and in the end Republicans will win Big because of the uncontrolled hatred of the left.

Even Palin Praises Hillary, who Obama threw out with the bathwater, and it will likely be written as his biggest mistake in this campaign.

Biden was a disasterous pick, Palin has even surprised me as being a risky but wise pick.

In Obama's first stretegic choice amoung many he would have had to make, he flat blew it.

McCain will go far with Palin as his pick.


Posted by: GS on September 13, 2008 06:19 PM
18. Palin will become president some day.

Posted by: Michele on September 13, 2008 08:04 PM
19. And the Alaska State Patrolman is still working!

Posted by: deadwood on September 13, 2008 08:05 PM
20. McCain is obviously part of the older generation of GOPers, and his pick for VP would steer our party in a certain direction, since they will be the favorite next time around.
Him picking Palin shows that he wanted to steer our party back in a more conservative and more fiscally responisible direction. I think it was a brilliant pick and I am glad he has done so.

I am worried about the level of PMS (Palin Madness Syndrome) that is out there though and I don't think it will ever stop. Since the media and left have so much invested in destroying her they just can't stop until they destroy her. If they stop they have to sort of admit they were wrong, so they can't stop till they take her down or she finally snaps and takes her self down.
It is pathetic and I think it is what we will see for several more presidential elections, regardless of who we (the GOP) nominate.

Posted by: Thom on September 13, 2008 09:32 PM
21. The only thing that still worries me is Trooper-gate. If she did fire him for family vindictive reasons, that's trouble.

Posted by: Crusader on September 14, 2008 01:00 AM
22. There does not seem to be any disagreement over the tazering of his 10 year old step-son. He did it! Let's have a second debate between Palin and Biden that focuses only on Troopergate. America would love to hear Joe Biden explain to us why it is so important to keep this cop on the force.

Posted by: Moondoggie on September 14, 2008 04:36 AM
23. Crusader, the trooper in question is STILL WORKING. He was NEVER fired. This is a completely fabricated "scandal" by the slimy Slavers.

Posted by: Shanghai Dan on September 14, 2008 02:33 PM
24. Another great poll:

McCain Now Winning Majority of Independents.

So who's the one uniting the country? Bringing their party together and building a broad coalition with Independents? Why, it's the same one who has a PROVEN track record of bipartisanship, not the big-mouth-empty-platitudes cokehead.

Posted by: Shanghai Dan on September 14, 2008 03:51 PM
25. You guys are unbelievable. The Republicans are solely and directly responsible for the meltdown of the global financial system that is currently playing out before our eyes, and you think they deserve to retain power. You're just beyond help.

Posted by: Billy Chav on September 14, 2008 09:30 PM
26. Billy Chav,

Republicans responsible? Hey, when you have the DEMOCRAT CHAIRMAN OF THE WAYS AND MEANS COMMITTEE as a self-admitted tax cheat, it seems the Slavery Party hacks are the ones with the current blood on their hands...

Ask Chris Dodd about Countrywide Financial. Or Obama about the Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac donations. Or Charlie Rangel about how taxes are ignored by Slavers...

Posted by: Shanghai Dan on September 14, 2008 10:31 PM
27. #25 is another troll from the progressive left of questionable mental stability that is not playing with a full deck. Your claim is baseless and only in your own distorted and hallucinated opinion. Keep those Democrat talking points coming and you'll be crying crocodile tears for sure after November 4th.

Posted by: KS on September 14, 2008 10:35 PM
28. Like I said: under Republican rule, Bear Stearns, Lehman, and Merril Lynch have imploded, AIG is going down like a rock, Fannie and Freddie went tits up but for government intervention, WaMu is about to bite the dust, Wachovia to follow. And on and on and on until we're all bled dry to pay for the ridiculous excesses of unregulated hyper-banking. What is it about the phrase 'Republicans wrecked our economy' that you don't understand? You pathetic fools.

Posted by: Billy Chav on September 14, 2008 11:49 PM
29. I love the comment from the idiot about "sleazy ads" from John McCain. I mean, Obama runs ads making fun of the fact that McCain can't use a computer keyboard because his arms were repeatedly broken when he was a POW, but that's okay huh?

Also, remember everyone: Ignore what you heard with your own ears when listening to Obama's "pig" comment. Instead, believe the spin from the NYT, after all, we know how totally impartial they are, huh?

The audacity of the left is so far removed from the real world that sometimes you just have to laugh.

Posted by: johnny on September 15, 2008 07:38 AM
30. Billy,

Your ignorance is stunning - simply stunning!

Question 1: WHO is responsible for regulations on the industry.

Answer 1: the CONGRESS, which makes the laws upon which regulations stand.

Question 2: WHO runs Congress, and has for the last two years?

Answer 2: The Slavery Party (you know, people like you - Democrats).

Posted by: Shanghai Dan on September 15, 2008 08:07 AM
31. Republicans have overseen the wholesale destruction of the American financial system. Everyone knows this except for you droolers in here. You'd better butch up because the peasants have pitchforks with your names on them.

Posted by: Billy Chav on September 15, 2008 09:03 AM
32. Billy boy.

What, three times now you've been given info on who is in charge. Yet 3 times now, you have missed it. (or refuse to answer)
So tell me Billy, why did everything start it's down turn after the Dem's took over?

Posted by: Army Medic/Vet on September 15, 2008 09:53 AM
33. Billy.... look a see. Then tell me who did what!

All Recipients of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac Campaign Contributions, 1989-2008

Name Office State Party Grand Total Total from
PACs Total from
Individuals
Dodd, Christopher J S CT D $165,400 $48,500 $116,900
Obama, Barack S IL D $126,349 $6,000 $120,349
Kerry, John S MA D $111,000 $2,000 $109,000

Posted by: Army Medic/Vet on September 15, 2008 10:02 AM
34. AMV:

Billy Chav will only ever respond with an ever more wearying set of statements. It's the tried and true track of - make a claim, when claim is destroyed, change the claim a bit and call that a victory. Repeat until people stop responding and claim victory.

It's the, "Oh yeah, but....." debate tactic. A favorite on Democrat Underground, Horses Ass, KOS, Wonkette, etc.

Posted by: MrRcguy on September 15, 2008 12:15 PM
35. How Chuck Schumer Set Off a Bank Panic

Pay attention Billy boy, an grasp a FACT or 2

"The sub-prime mortgage collapse is another tale of unintended consequences. The crisis has its roots in the Community Reinvestment Act of 1977, a Carter-era law that purported to prevent 'redlining' --denying mortgages to black borrowers--by pressuring banks to make home loans in 'low- and moderate-income neighborhoods.' Under the act, banks were to be graded on their attentiveness to the 'credit needs' of 'predominantly minority neighborhoods.'...[T]o earn high ratings, banks were forced to make increasingly risky loans to borrowers who wouldn't qualify for a mortgage under normal standards of creditworthiness. The CRA, made even more stringent during the Clinton administration, trapped lenders in a Catch-22. 'If they comply,' wrote Loyola College economist Thomas DiLorenzo, 'they know they will have to suffer from more loan defaults. If they don't comply, they face financial penalties... which can cost a large corporation like Bank of America billions of dollars.' Banks nationwide thus ended up making more and more 'sub-prime' loans and agreeing to dangerously lax underwriting standards--no down payment, no verification of income, interest-only payment plans, weak credit history. If they tried to compensate for the higher risks they were taking by charging higher interest rates, they were accused of unfairly steering borrowers into 'predatory' loans they couldn't afford. Trapped in a no-win situation entirely of the government's making, lenders could only hope that home prices would continue to rise, staving off the inevitable collapse. But once the housing bubble burst, there was no escape. Mortgage lenders have been bankrupted, thousands of sub-prime homeowners have been foreclosed on, and countless would-be borrowers can no longer get credit. The financial fallout has hurt investors around the world. And all of it thanks to the government, which was sure it understood the credit industry better than the free market did, and confidently created the conditions that made disaster unavoidable." --Jeff Jacoby
Posted by: Ragnar Danneskjold on September 15, 2008 01:01 PM
36. Ticking Time Bomb Explodes, Public Is Shocked

This financial mega-mess is the same sort of event as the collapse of the USSR's centrally planned economy...

In the future, we will see a similar breakdown of the U.S. government's Social Security system, with its ill-fated pension system and its even more inauspicious Medicare system of financing health care for the elderly. These government schemes are fighting a losing battle against demographic realities, the laws of economics, and the rules of arithmetic. The question is not whether they will fail, but when--and then how the government that can no longer sustain them in their previous Ponzi-scheme form will alter them to salvage what little can be salvaged with minimal damage to the government itself...

The trouble is, however, that now, even more than then, the American people have little interest in liberty. Instead, they want the impossible: home ownership for those who cannot afford homes, credit for those who are not creditworthy, old-age pensions for those who have not saved, health care for those who make no attempt to keep themselves healthy, and college educations for those who lack the wit to finish high school. Moreover, they want it now, and they want somebody else to pay for it.

Now gee, let me think... WHO promises that kind of "stuff" from the "government"???

Posted by: Ragnar Danneskjold on September 15, 2008 01:19 PM
37. Hey Billy Chav, you need to get your facts right (or are you actually Facts Support My Delusions?). From what you say it is pretty clear that you wouldn't know a balance sheet if it bit you in the ass. You lefties need to stop parroting the latest thing you hear on CNN or from Olberman, these people don't know financials and neither do you (but they do know how to read a DNC press release). But don't listen to me, why don't you call up the guy who's handling your dough and ask him? I'll bet the answer you get is nothing like the drivel you're dropping in here.

I'd really like to get into the specifics but, seriously, you're just not packing enough wattage.

Posted by: G Jiggy on September 16, 2008 01:11 PM
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