November 04, 2008
Election Day in Seattle

This morning I took Shark Jr. to the pediatrician for his annual check-up.

The doctor asks me how he's doing in school "Is he an above average student?"

My above average curious first-grader asks: "What's an above average student?"

"An average student is someone who does okay in school," Doc explains. "An above average student does really well in school".

"Are there any below average students?" Jr. asks.

"Yes", says the doctor. "And those are the people who vote for McCain-Palin!".

I shot back that my wife and I are voting for McCain-Palin and that we both have advanced degrees.

Doc apologized profusely, saying that it was a dumb joke and that he didn't really feel that way. But sheesh.

That's Seattle for you, where such attitudes and expressions are so standard and socially acceptable, that an otherwise above-average pediatrician would feel uninhibited about making such comments to his 7-year-old patients.

Posted by Stefan Sharkansky at November 04, 2008 03:04 PM | Email This
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1. Shark,

It must be a challenge having a brain while living amongst Seattlites.

Posted by: saltherring on November 4, 2008 03:25 PM
2. Did you discuss the Gov's Race?

Posted by: Glenno on November 4, 2008 03:28 PM
3. Shark,

Don't you just LOVE the tolerant left! I think that you should post the name of your pediatrician so that if any other Sound Politics readers are putting their money into his pocket, they can know his true feelings about them!

It will be interesting to see how he feels in a few years when his income is slashed and his patient load is doubled under Obama's Socialist Health Care Plan. Sadly though, by then it will be too late!

Posted by: Suzihomemaker on November 4, 2008 03:28 PM
4. Come on when was the last time you met a smart pediatrician? Nice yes, tons of them, but smart? Not really the first word that comes to mind.

Posted by: Tap on November 4, 2008 03:36 PM
5. Keep politics out of business, religon, sports, etc...

Posted by: Robert on November 4, 2008 03:40 PM
6. At least he didn't say that you proved the punch line.


Posted by: BA on November 4, 2008 03:42 PM
7. How refreshing that your doctor feels good about spreading his wealth around.

Here I thought all doctors were stingy SOB's who believed they were entitled to keeping their lavish incomes for 15 years of gruelling school and residence requirements.

It just goes to show you can't make assumptions.

Posted by: Andy on November 4, 2008 03:44 PM
8. I find it somewhat disturbing that insulting the intelligence of Republicans seems to be so widely accepted.

Posted by: Dishman on November 4, 2008 04:16 PM
9. mercifurious

Like Palin, your mom chose to not abort a special needs child.

Every life is precious, even yours.

Posted by: Andy on November 4, 2008 04:21 PM
10. @10 Obviously Palin greatly underestimated how dense liberals can be when she made the statement. I won't both explaining it to you. (BTW, I suggest leaving humor to the professionals)

What is refreshing however, is that you always know what Slo Joe is talking about when he:

*tells a man he knows is wheelchair bound to stand up,

*thinks there were TV's in 1929, insults a whole race and culture when he says you need an Indian accent when walking into a 7/11,

* thinks the word J-O-B-S is spelled with three letters

* warns the nation not to be scared s***less when his running mate is tested by world leaders.

* without checking the the man in charge, lowers the income level that will be taxed to $150,000

Remind me again who the "below average" VP candidate is?

Posted by: Dave on November 4, 2008 04:42 PM
11. Now that is one of the funniest things I have read all day.

Posted by: sparky on November 4, 2008 05:06 PM
12. Honestly, I'd be switching pediatricians. This is a person you have to work with on a fairly regular basis. If he doesn't know your family well enough and hasn't picked up on your (rather clear) conservatism, to keep from making a presumptuous and bigoted remark like that, then I think as doctors go he might be "below average" in intelligence and perception.

Posted by: PeggyU on November 4, 2008 05:13 PM
13. Change doctors. Anyone that idealogically driven doesn't have time to excel in medicine.

Posted by: pbj on November 4, 2008 05:31 PM
14. Shark,
You need a new doctor. The one you have is an idiot.

Why, you libs may ask?

Answer: Because dummy is helping to vote in the very people that would sue (trial lawyers, the democrats' main constituency) and tax his arse out of existence. A guy with an IQ that low shouldn't be treating kids.

Posted by: SteveM on November 4, 2008 05:41 PM
15. At least he didn't ask how many guns were in the house.

Posted by: Vince on November 4, 2008 05:41 PM
16. That's disappointing. Find another doctor who doesn't think it's cool to insult his patients.

I work in a school, and NEVER talk politics. When I eat in the lunch room, I'm the one who isn't viley insulting anyone with whom I disagree.

Of course, what do I know? I'm one of those "some college" people without a degree who isn't smart enough to find my way out of a wet paper bag.

Here in Olympia, I was delighted to see this weekend that LOTS of Dino Rossi signs had been erected along the roadsides. Unfortunately, as of this afternoon, almost all of them are lying in shreds along the sides of the road. Two different homes with Republican yardsigns in my fairly affluent neighborhood have been vandalized, while all of the Obama/Gregoire signs remain unscathed.

Please God, let Dino win tonight!

Posted by: Lynn on November 4, 2008 06:02 PM
17. That's disappointing. Find another doctor who doesn't think it's cool to insult his patients.

I work in a school, and NEVER talk politics. When I eat in the lunch room, I'm the one who isn't viley insulting anyone with whom I disagree.

Of course, what do I know? I'm one of those "some college" people without a degree who isn't smart enough to find my way out of a wet paper bag.

Here in Olympia, I was delighted to see this weekend that LOTS of Dino Rossi signs had been erected along the roadsides. Unfortunately, as of this afternoon, almost all of them are lying in shreds along the sides of the road. Two different homes with Republican yardsigns in my fairly affluent neighborhood have been vandalized, while all of the Obama/Gregoire signs remain unscathed.

Please God, let Dino win tonight!

Posted by: Lynn on November 4, 2008 06:02 PM
18. I've encountered this kind of attitude in both workplace and social settings in Seattle since my arrival in 1991. The groupthink mentallity here is so prevalent, that the stunned dolt that just assumed you were a fellow groupthinker is floored at your response that you're actually a ____fill in the blank other than Democrat/Socialist.
I guess ignorance is bliss.

Posted by: Rick D. on November 4, 2008 06:12 PM
19. you'll get a Phyrric victory over Doc when national bankruptcy healthcare becomes law & his salary tanks a-la pencilheads & wealth distribution--i REEEEaly hope i'm wrong too;

Posted by: jimmie-howya-doin on November 4, 2008 06:39 PM
20. I would switch doctors in a heartbeat. That was an incredibly stupid thing for a doc to say. There are health professionals out there who are wise enough to focus on the health of the patient and not make idiots of themselves with foolish comments. Your money is as green as anyone else's, and he ought to be more interested in pleasing/helping his patients than insulting them!

Posted by: Michele on November 4, 2008 07:07 PM
21. You voted for Bush. You are not very bright. Case close.

Posted by: CUR on November 4, 2008 07:25 PM
22. You voted for Bush. You are not very bright. Case close.

Posted by: CUR on November 4, 2008 07:25 PM
23. I'd also consider a new pediatrician. In my experience, in that environment you will soon observe:
1. Notebooks in the exam rooms (aimed at your elementary age children) stuffed with information on birth control, how to report parental abuse, sexual info above their grade level, and the general irrelevence of parents.
2. Attempts to seperate you from your children during visits to the Dr. (yes, even elementary age).
3. Offers to medicate your child the instant a parent asks for an ADHD evaluation (this was the deal breaker for me).

I've since switched to a pediatrician that considers parents part of the solution, and not part of the problem for our children.

But I'll confess to hiding a smurk when my 17 yo son brought home the Marine recruiter...they were hiding the medical intake form, to be filled out later in private with the recruiter. Yesh, we're involved parents, I could have filled it out myself with 99.95% accuracty. Some of us parents actually know our children.

Posted by: dl on November 4, 2008 07:27 PM
24. "There are health professionals out there who are wise enough to focus on the health of the patient and not make idiots of themselves with foolish comments."

...and there are some like Hugh Straley, Medical director for Group Health Cooperative/Kaiser Permanente that sent out an all staff e-mail back in November of 2004 lamenting the fact that George W. Bush was elected instead of John Kerry.
I couldn't believe what I was seeing, but there it was straight from on high.
Much like Shark's doc though, Mr. Straley found out his groupthink ideology wasn't shared by many others within the organizatiion and plenty responded with surprise and outrage that he would have the gall to send such a self-indulgent communication out in the first place.
What soon followed was a mea culpa and apology when he got a sound rap on the nose with rolled up newspaper by Scott Armstrong (now CEO) and presumably Cheryl Scott who was finishing up her tenure as CEO.

Which goes to show, the groupthink mentallity knows no professional boundaries.

Posted by: Rick D. on November 4, 2008 07:38 PM
25. I'd also advise a new pediatrician. In my experience, in that environment you will soon observe:
1. Notebooks in the exam rooms (aimed at your elementary age children) stuffed with information on birth control, how to report parental abuse, sexual info above their grade level, and the general irrelevence of parents.
2. Attempts to seperate you from your children during visits to the Dr. (yes, even elementary age).
3. Condesending attitudes regarding your parental judgement calls (for us a decision to allow a child to participate in a unique sport opportunity with a minor injury).
4. Offers to medicate your child the instant a parent asks for an ADHD evaluation (this was the deal breaker for me).

Switched, and glad we did.

Posted by: dl on November 4, 2008 07:55 PM
26. Education doesn't make you intelligent. Having the ability to see outside of yourself and develop creative solutions to difficult problems makes you intelligent. Screaming that life isn't fair and transplanting your family from one liberal stronghold to the next and then complaining about it just shows you like the attention of being different. People don't like you but not because your politics, it is because you are a self-serving jerk who has very little regard for people you think are less than you. You think money buys you intelligence and class. You sir, have neither. I am glad your boy Rossi is losing - maybe you will go away as well. I hear Texas is a nice place for people like you. Your kid will surely be above average in a state as illiterate as that!

Posted by: nobody on November 4, 2008 08:53 PM
27. #26 - You appropriately call yourself "nobody." Stefan isn't screaming that life isn't fair -- life has been very fair to him. (Those who support redistribution of wealth, affirmative action and other liberal policies are the ones who are usually screaming that life is unfair.) His point was that it was a stupid and inappropriate comment for a pediatrician to make to his young patient. And speaking of class, you show that you have none by taking a pot shot at a 7-year old.

Posted by: Irene on November 4, 2008 09:20 PM
28. Yesterday, my six year old told me that kids on his school bus accused him of being evil when he mentioned that his parents were voting for John McCain. Why on earth would parents discuss politics in such terms with their first graders? My goodness, I can just imagine them telling their six year old children, "people that vote for John McCain are evil"

Last year we were listening to NPR and a story came on with a quote from President Bush. My then five year old asked "is President Bush evil? All the kids at the orange square table say he is!" I am the first to admit I am not a fan of Bush, never have voted for him (wrote in John McCain both times!) but I would NEVER tell my five year old child that the president of the US is evil. But hey, we're in the Seattle school district!

Posted by: modMilq on November 4, 2008 09:49 PM
29. PS- what's the fixation with "evil" anyway? I don't think Obama is evil, I think he's misguided, his political philosophy is foolish, and that he is certainly more sizzle than steak.

Posted by: modMilq on November 4, 2008 09:53 PM
30. Apparently, only ivy school lawyers are qualified to lead the country. Everyone else is morons, wait...isn't that the rest of the voters too?

Posted by: waflyguy on November 5, 2008 05:25 PM
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