January 02, 2009
Everett Minuteman Shawna Forde Beaten; Husband Shot One Week Earlier

You can get the details here (graphic pictures attached). According to the web site of Minutemen American Defense (a group affiliated with the Minuteman Project), Shawna Forde, MAD's Director, was beaten and raped in her Everett home on December 29. Just one week earlier, her husband was shot three times, also at their home.

The MAD web site seems to imply the attacks might have something to do with her work investigating drug cartel operations. So far there's no official word on where the investigations might be headed. The Everett Police have released a sketch of the shooting suspect.

Cross-posted on <pudge/*>.

Posted by pudge at January 02, 2009 01:26 PM | Email This
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1. We know people best by their enemies. It appears this couple is doing something right to warrant such attention. If they should die at the hands of their enemies, there is no nobler death after living a life trying to make our world a little safer.

As citizens, we have a responsibility to make sure criminal elements do not run our society. There are millions of us and only a handful of them. Let's all do our part to keep crime down by following their example.

My thoughts and prayers to the family as well.

Posted by: Jonathan Gardner on January 2, 2009 01:46 PM
2. To those who committed this horrible crime: You will be caught and prosecuted. More and more of Everett's homeowners are training and arming themselves for the explicit reason of defending our families and ourselves from complete failures like yourselves.

It is unlikely that you will read this for various reasons one could make an educated guess why not. Nonetheless, enjoy knowing that law enforcement has your DNA. Until the end of your life, you be hunted down and legally liable for the injuries you have caused. Look forward to a little "eye for an eye" in prison, in a slightly less convenient fashion by fellow inmates.

Best of wishes to my neighbors Mr. and Mrs. Forde.

Posted by: Boxxerace on January 2, 2009 02:12 PM
3. The physical war is beginning. This is going to be long.

Posted by: yogi on January 2, 2009 03:10 PM
4. Saw the sketch on the news last night.

..and WOW- it looks like they omitted some MAJOR details.

This was no boating accident. Thanks MSM for covering up for the drug cartels- we wouldn't want American's to think there was a problem or anything.

Posted by: Andy on January 2, 2009 03:19 PM
5. Andy, the "MSM" does not HAVE most of the details from the Minutemen site; the police is not releasing details yet, from what I can tell.

Posted by: pudge on January 2, 2009 03:31 PM
6. Pudge.

As someone who lives near Everett. I'll ask my medics for more info that is missing?
So were the bad guys mad about border crossing or what?

damn so little info.

Thanks Pudge.

Posted by: Medic/Vet on January 2, 2009 05:25 PM
7. I'm sure we'll find out more soon enough. This is a terrible situation, but we'll find out what's going on. Have patience.

Posted by: pudge on January 2, 2009 05:37 PM
8. This is so scary, I just moved and bought a house in north everett. My condolences are with the family that had to go through this horrible ordeal.

Posted by: concerned-in-everett on January 2, 2009 05:49 PM
9. This sounds like the work of the MS-13 bastards as they are present in the North Everett area. An Everett Herald story from July 2008:

Suspect calls ambush an order

Sarah Black allegedly told police she was told to lure a rival gang member outside as a target in a drive-by shooting.

By Diana Hefley Herald Writer EVERETT -- A north Everett woman who police believe is a recruiter for a violent street gang allegedly told investigators she was just following orders when she lured a rival gang member outside to be shot.

Sarah Black, 30, was charged earlier this week with first- degree assault in a June 11 drive-by shooting in south Everett. A boy, 16, was struck twice by gunfire. He likely will suffer long-term nerve damage to his arm, prosecutors said.

Black is accused of helping plan the ambush and driving the car. She allegedly sent the teen a message on his MySpace account, posing under the fictitious name "Lady Killer," to lure him outside, court documents show.

On Friday, Black told a judge she was not guilty.

She appeared in Snohomish County Superior Court from jail via video camera. The tattoos on her face were barely visible on the television screen.

Black has an "M" and an "S" tattooed on the sides of her mouth. A "13" is inked below her lips. Police believe the tattoo is a tribute to MS-13, a notorious international gang known for extreme violence.

Snohomish County Superior Court Judge David Kurtz ordered Black held on $100,000 bail. She also was ordered not to have any contact with known MS-13 members or to leave the state.

Black has ties to California and El Salvador, both places known to be home to numerous MS-13 members, prosecutors said. The gang was started by refugees from El Salvador who fled to the U.S. to escape the country's civil war.

Investigators recovered letters from Black's north Everett home showing ongoing communication with an MS-13 leader incarcerated in the Washington State Penitentiary in Walla Walla, court documents show.

The gunfire in Everett likely was retaliation for a shooting at the Northgate Mall in Seattle in February, prosecutors wrote. An alleged MS-13 member was struck by rival gunfire in the parking lot. An Everett teen is accused of pulling the trigger.

The victim in the drive-by shooting in south Everett was with the shooter during the Seattle incident, according to court documents.

Black has spoken with investigators at least three times since her arrest. She allegedly told them she is a recruiter for the gang, saying, "I run MS in Washington," prosecutors wrote.

Black has spent time in prison for a 2003 drive-by shooting in Eastern Washington. The shooting was believed to be the work of MS-13 members who had a dispute with another group of people, court records show.

Black allegedly told investigators three gang members came up from California last month. The men, nicknamed "Panterra," "Dopey" and "Droopy," directed her to get her "homies" together for a meeting at her north Everett house. In the hours before the drive-by shooting, a dozen people gathered to talk about problems with other gangs in the area and the shooting outside the Northgate Mall, court documents show.

An MS-13 member named "Snoopy" had given the direction to target the Everett teenager, prosecutors wrote.

"I just do what I'm told," Black reportedly told detectives.

Black allegedly said "Droopy" was in the front seat when they drove up to the teenager. Black told detectives "Droopy" shot the teenager, according to police.

The gunman hasn't been arrested. Two Seattle area teens also were arrested in connection with the shooting. Ronald A. Gomez, 16, and Armando Lopez, 17, also are charged with first-degree assault. They are believed to have been in the back seat of the car.

On Tuesday, an Auburn teenager was sentenced to 19 years in prison for a 2006 gang-related shooting in the same neighborhood. The victim, Dennis Riojas, 19, was shot in the back as he tried to scale a fence near his home.

Hopefully the police are very active in their investigation and will be bringing someone in on this very disturbing case. This is one of the most dangerous street gangs out there. Godspeed to the Fords on their recovery and the police on getting these pieces of fecal matter either deported or jailed....or dead!

Posted by: Rick D. on January 2, 2009 07:28 PM
10. Rick D. : Preferably dead. Otherwise, they will just come back after being deported or released from prison.

Posted by: PeggyU on January 2, 2009 10:31 PM
11. Is there any better reason to deport illegal aliens? These MS-13 people are often here illegally. How about some enforcement of the law, pols??

Posted by: Daisy on January 2, 2009 10:42 PM
12. @6
As someone who lives near Everett. I'll ask my medics for more info that is missing?
So were the bad guys mad about border crossing or what?

In Mexico, it's very common for drug cartels to use violence to silence journalists who report on their industry. If the Fordes were providing information on cartel members to law enforcement, or posting information online, they could've become targets that way. Pudge is right though, we just don't know enough yet to know what's really going on.

Posted by: thehim on January 3, 2009 09:51 AM
13. The pictures and story of Shawnas rape are fake. The pictures clearly show make-up where she wants you to see 'bruising'. There is no swelling in any area shown where she was struck by blunt-force....especially in the face. Local Police Department should take a close look into her story, something is very wrong here.

Posted by: Roughrider on January 3, 2009 10:47 AM
14. Yeah, it looks faked. Skeptical for now.

Posted by: joe the CSI on January 3, 2009 11:02 AM
15. Fake. Bruising like that on the face would be accompanied by swelling. And those cuts don't even look as deep as a cat scratch.

Posted by: Cat on January 3, 2009 11:15 AM
16. According to this story in the Everett Herald, she's a licensed cosmetologist and esthetician.

http://heraldnet.com/article/20090103/NEWS01/701039902

Handy background for faking bruises with makeup ...

Posted by: cat on January 3, 2009 11:23 AM
17. @13-16
I have to admit that when I first saw the pictures, I was very skeptical. But what about the shooting? Was the shooting a fake? Was the shooting real, but the attack manufactured? If so, why would they do that?

Posted by: thehim on January 3, 2009 12:32 PM
18. Whether anything is faked or not, it's a FACT that MS-13 is an extremely violent gang filled with a lot of people who are here illegally. let's not get sidetracked from that. They need to be GONE.

Posted by: Daisy on January 3, 2009 12:58 PM
19. In Mexico, it's very common for drug cartels to use violence to silence journalists who report on their industry. If the Fordes were providing information on cartel members to law enforcement, or posting information online, they could've become targets that way. Pudge is right though, we just don't know enough yet to know what's really going on.

Despite the best efforts of the ACLU and other libtard groups we still live in the USA and not the Northern Mexician Territory Once Known as Washington.

Posted by: Rich on January 3, 2009 01:55 PM
20. i agree this MS-13 "gang", as many others, are violent, should be tracked, & removed.

However, i have to agree the pictures "look" fake. I'm not an expert, but after reading comments here -especially about the lack of swelling & deep wounds -something isn't right here. Take another look at these photo's. By faking it, she has just lost any credibility & probably broke another law.

Did her own hate & anger over her husbands shooting provoke her to fake this?

Why would 3 guys beat her, rape her, cat scratch her with a knife, no actual wounds, fill the bathtub with water & leave her alive? It doesn't make sense. I suppose it could be they got spooked & abruptly left before finishing the deed.

I don't know. After viewing her website: http://www.minutemenamericandefense.us/ and the exact opposite of her website: http://www.splcenter.org/intel/intelreport/article.jsp?pid=1522 ---i have to come to the conclusion that hate only attracts hate, and i am sure we haven't heard the last of Shawna Forde.

Posted by: cme on January 3, 2009 02:07 PM
21. @19
Actually, if this country followed the lead of groups like the ACLU and ended the drug war, groups like MS-13 wouldn't have any power. These groups are so well-armed and so dangerous because drug prohibition is funneling them billions of dollars of years in revenue. If you want to defeat these groups, you have to cut off their funding.

Posted by: thehim on January 3, 2009 02:09 PM
22. i have to come to the conclusion that hate only attracts hate, and i am sure we haven't heard the last of Shawna Forde.~ CME

As a former BPA, I have no qualms with Shawna Forde's methods. Last time I checked, defending the Constitution didn't rise to the level of a "hate crime" as indicated by some that have no idea what they're talking about.

Actually, if this country followed the lead of groups like the ACLU and ended the drug war
@ 21 thehim/ HA Lee~

Interesting take Lee. Did you realize that the ACLU defended a child molester in MA pro bono, i.e. Free of charge?

Posted by: Rick D. on January 3, 2009 02:24 PM
23. @22
Interesting take Lee. Did you realize that the ACLU defended a child molester in MA pro bono, i.e. Free of charge?

They defended someone even more heinous once, Rush Limbaugh. The ACLU takes on cases pro bono in order to ensure that all people's civil liberties are protected. That's a noble cause, whether you understand it or not.

I'm proud to be a supporter of the ACLU and very proud of the system our founding fathers set up for ensuring that everyone in this country is innocent until proven guilty.

Posted by: thehim on January 3, 2009 02:47 PM
24. They defended someone even more heinous [than a child molester] once, Rush Limbaugh. ~ thehim/HA Lee

Thanks Lee. I couldn't make a case for your insanity any more convincing than your statement above.

Posted by: Rick D. on January 3, 2009 02:52 PM
25. Lee defends Child molestation endorsed by the ACLU....Goldy must be proud.

Apologies to Pudge for the off topic subject matter.

The family of Jeffrey Curley, of Cambridge, Mass., claims that NAMBLA, through its website, incited the molestation and murder of the youngster in 1997.

Using the First Amendment's guarantees of freedom of speech and freedom of association as their legal justification, the Massachusetts chapter of the ACLU said it will defend NAMBLA.

"Under the First Amendment, there are no illegal ideas," the ACLU said in a statement defending their decision. "Those who commit illegal acts can be punished for wrongful conduct, but the expression of even offensive ideas is protected by our Constitution."

One of two men convicted in the murder, Charles Jaynes, 25, allegedly viewed the NAMBLA site shortly before he murdered Jeffrey Curley. He also possessed NAMBLA publications. (Also convicted of murder was 24-year-old Salvatore Sicari.)

These men were sexually obsessed with young Jeffrey. They lured him from his neighborhood by promising him a new bike. They then smothered him with a gasoline-soaked rag when he resisted their sexual advances. Jaynes allegedly molested the boy after he was dead. They then stuffed the boy into a concrete-filled container, which they dumped into a river.

Lawrence Frisoli, the Curley's attorney, said, "The commission of crimes is not constitutionally protected by the First Amendment. They participate. That's the allegation of the lawsuit, that the organization is participating in the rape of children."

Mr. Frisoli says that NAMBLA assists its members in raping children by educating them on how to locate victims, how to gain their trust and how to avoid law enforcement so they won't get caught.

While NAMBLA says it "speaks out against societal oppression and celebrates the joys of men and boys in love," the fact is that their information appears to have been utilized by one of the two killers just prior to the commission of their unspeakable crime.

According to the Associated Press, ACLU officials said that NAMBLA argues for changes in society's views about consensual sex between adults and minors and a lowering of the age-of-consent. Harvey Silverglate, an ACLU board member, told AP that NAMBLA does not advocate illegal acts and, even if it did, that, too, would be protected by the First Amendment -- even though it is illegal in Massachusetts to have sex with a child under 16.


Posted by: Rick D. on January 3, 2009 03:04 PM
26. There is NO EVIDENCE of fakery. The people claiming that there is the appearance of makeup have pointed out no examples. The people claiming that the wounds should look different are just making things up.

While I do not discount that fakery is possible -- we can all recall examples of such things -- it is beneath contempt to state categorically, without serious evidence, that she has faked anything.

Being skeptical is a good and healthy thing, but none us knows what actually happened, and none of us has any serious evidence of anything.

Posted by: pudge on January 3, 2009 03:20 PM
27. It's time to legalize and tax it all, taking the mob out of it and no longer requiring our law enforcement to have to lay their lives on the line for something people are seeking to do to them selves. Truthful education funded by the taxes brought in. Treatment for those wanting it. Stop filling our prisons with people just wanting a buzz.

So many jurisdictions are addicted to the money tree of fighting this so called war on drugs. They could be much smaller and much less of a tax burden if you take drugs out of the equation.

Posted by: Joe Band Member on January 3, 2009 05:09 PM
28. @25
Do you have a point? The ACLU defends people who believe their freedom of speech is being violated. As much as you and I may hate NAMBLA and are repulsed by their views, the people in that organization have rights too, and part of that is the right to a proper legal defense.

I'll never tell you that the ACLU is perfect, or that I agree with everything they do, but I'm glad to have people like them at the front lines of protecting our basic rights.

Posted by: thehim on January 3, 2009 05:30 PM
29. Check this out: I found a website claiming that Forde's daughter Jaszmin was missing and had been the target "several times by Hispanic Gang Members (Two times they attempted to drag her into a car)," and the website goes onto say: "Please if anyone can help contact us we are trying to raise money for the search for Jaszmin." http://jazzycomehome.com/ Everett Herald didn't do a piece on this one! I think this pretty much settles the issue, it should be jazzycomehome.CON!

Posted by: ill_eagle on January 3, 2009 10:28 PM
30. Factless: your troll post has been removed. Try not to be so obvious next time.

Posted by: pudge on January 3, 2009 11:09 PM
31. ill:

Um. Since the Herald didn't cover their missing child, you therefore determine it must be a hoax?

What is wrong with you?

Posted by: pudge on January 3, 2009 11:13 PM
32. Oh, and for what it's worth, ill, they claim she went missing on Feb. 4, 2008, and she was apparently found on or before Feb. 29, 2008, as this is the last-modified date of the web site that says she was found. So there's not significant reason here to think there was a hoax or con.

Again: being skeptical is fine. Drawing conclusions based on incomplete information and cynical guesswork just makes you look unserious, at best.

Posted by: pudge on January 3, 2009 11:21 PM
33. "...I'm glad to have people like them [the ACLU] at the front lines of protecting our basic rights."

um yeah, Ruth Bader Ginsburg (former ACLU attorney) really protected our basic rights in the Kelo vs. New London decision, right Lee?

Posted by: Rick D. on January 4, 2009 09:23 AM
34. Count me among the skeptical. I've worked with enough crime victims over the years to know that they don't call the local newspaper seeking coverage of their story -- especially if they truly fear for their life. I also find the photos to be suspect; there appears to be no swelling and there should be if she received the kind of beating she claims. Additionally, anyone who has talked with this woman more than 5 minutes recognizes her addiction to drama. If this story is true, it is tragic. If this story is not true, it is still tragic.

Posted by: DoNoHarm on January 5, 2009 05:42 AM
35. DoNoHarm:

I've worked with enough crime victims over the years to know that they don't call the local newspaper seeking coverage of their story -- especially if they truly fear for their life.

Your reasoning is specious. Consider the victim in this case: taking the story at face value, her whole purpose here is to uncover and expose these people. She already knew her life was at risk due to the nature of her activities, and she continued anyway.

I also find the photos to be suspect; there appears to be no swelling and there should be if she received the kind of beating she claims.

I completely disagree that there appears to be no swelling.

If this story is true, it is tragic.

Tragic, compounded by the specious claims of you and others, about what victims "don't" do and about what they think they see or don't see in photos.

Posted by: pudge on January 5, 2009 07:50 AM
36. I'm willing to let this play out before I lock and load.

This person was also convicted of shoplifting a couple of years ago. The papers misreported the story, IMO, so I didn't get a good read. But, she did plead guilty.

Posted by: swatter on January 5, 2009 08:03 AM
37. swatter:

I'm willing to let this play out before I lock and load.

As should always be the case.


This person was also convicted of shoplifting a couple of years ago. The papers misreported the story, IMO, so I didn't get a good read. But, she did plead guilty.

Her story is plausible: IIRC, she says she put them in her pocket while she was shopping, she ran out to say Hi to a friend, she pled guilty because she wanted to get beyond it because she has been out of state a lot, in Arizona.

Posted by: pudge on January 5, 2009 08:08 AM
38. The shooting of her husband? Witnesses saw a white man. Hmm..happened around Christmas..
I think there's problems with hubby. She had someone shoot at him, then fabricated this story to cover her ass. Tried to make it appear connected to the shooting. How could she be involved if she was also a victim?
And who better to blame it on than the Hispanics she's protesting?
Why would someone who has just been raped and attacked step forward so quickly to post pictures on the internet, as well as who she thinks the suspects are, a long with motives?
Why hasn't she given a formal statement to the police yet?
If the police found her, why haven't they made any commentary on it? Why aren't they investigating with any urgency? They haven't said anything because they're investigating her claim!
This is fake. She's suspicious.

Posted by: ozarks on January 5, 2009 09:30 PM
39. ozarks:

The fact that you, without any evidence of any kind, accuse her of attempted murder means you have nothing actually interesting to say.

Posted by: pudge on January 5, 2009 10:06 PM
40. I am surprised you let ozarks comment stay posted. But, the comment seems to represent the worst of the speculators' comments.

After first posting, I saw the photos. I suppose the geniuses commenting on the authenticity of the photos have some backup and cred so I can judge they know what they are talking about?

I have nothing to judge them by. I just hope Shawna takes care of herself and doesn't get wasted by whackos or the terrorists for exposing the corruption regarding illegals.

Posted by: swatter on January 6, 2009 06:50 AM
41. The cops will sort this all out. In the end I'm quite certain this womans claims will be proven false.

Posted by: burt on January 6, 2009 12:29 PM
42. My, how lovely it must be to be "quite certain" of things despite a complete lack of evidence.

Posted by: pudge on January 6, 2009 12:34 PM
43. Rick, however awful the thing that happened in Cambridge is, understand the ACLU defended NAMBLA in a lawsuit not a child molester in Massachusetts. They did not defend the rapist-murderers Charles Jaynes or Salvatore Sicari who are both serving life sentences. Though the ACLU defended another unpopular fringe group, it's not the sum of their work and Lee@21 is totally right on suggesting unwinding the criminal enterprises that threaten so many people's stability and quality of life through drug law reform. If we haven't learned by now, all reactions to these enterprises as a threat by using force has done is increase their effective resistance using their own violent force. Take away the incentive and the criminal enterprise will implode from lack of funding. Just like alcohol almost a century ago. We have become too accustomed to living with an unbelievable absurdity.
(second apology to pudge)

Posted by: Acid Brain on January 6, 2009 03:00 PM
44. "...understand the ACLU defended NAMBLA in a lawsuit not a child molester in Massachusetts. " ~ acid brain

It was a Massachussetts case, acid brain, but you're right they defended not an individual child molester, but an organization that actively supports child molestation, i.e. North American Man/Boy Love Association which implies multiple child molesters...

Which makes it even more heinous when you throw in the Pro Bono work the ACLU did for them on the case.

Posted by: Rick D. on January 6, 2009 09:50 PM
45. Shawna Forde gave an exclusive interview on NoCompromise Radio on January 6th, 2009, recounting the brutal attacks she and her estranged husband recently endured at their home in Everett, WA.

Click Here> to hear her recount exactly what went down, when three or four unknown assailants shot her husband multiple times, and then merely a week later, audaciously returned to beat and rape her while he remains hospitalized.

Scroll down at NoCompromise Radio (via blogtalkradio) and select Play, or Download, and listen carefully to the entire interview.

Please leave your insightful comments as to what you think actually may have happened in this case. Did Shawna clear things up for you - or, do you have more questions?

Click here> to go to NoCompromise's website, and add your commentary!

-ThoughtRogue

Posted by: ThoughtRogue on January 7, 2009 09:41 AM
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