July 12, 2009
Say What, Susan?

The race for King County Executive is non-partisan but let's face it, of the five leading candidates, four are Democrat elected officials and one is generally considered to lean Republican. What a surprise then to read in a Sunday, July 12th Seattle Times editorial that the four Democrats oppose interim King County Executive Kurt Triplett's proposed sales tax increase but the lone Republican "wants to study the Triplett proposal before saying how she feels about it." Reading the editorial description of each of the four Democrat's responses to the tax proposal, especially the two state legislators, they seem well thought out and responsible. But Susan Hutchison was responsible only in that she actually wanted to read the proposal before commenting. This is one time when reading may not be necessary. Offering a tax hike during an economic recession should be a non-starter. Oddly, I've heard Susan speak on two occasions and both times she made it perfectly clear that this is not the time for tax increases. She has ideas for reducing the cost of King County government, starting with the size of the Executive and Council staffs, while funding critical needs. But none of this was mentioned in the Times editorial. It could be a too quick response to a reporter's question, poor editorial research or, and I slip into conspiracy theory politics here, the Times is laying the groundwork for trashing Hutchison on the way to endorsing two Democrats for County Executive.

Posted by warrenpeterson at July 12, 2009 04:13 PM | Email This
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1. I was at the Mercer Island Summer Celebration booth and the Republican booth was handing out lots of Susan Hutchinson literature (and no other candidate).

VERY strange for a non-partisan race and a candidate who goes out of her way to suggest she's the only non-partisan in the race.

Guess we should believe her as much as any other politician...too bad, because I was leaning toward supporting her. At least the Democrats admit what they are publicly. It may not be great, but it's honest. C'mon Susan...you're better than this!

Posted by: The Facts are Out on July 12, 2009 04:45 PM
2. Sounds like she was trying to be genuinely thoughtful before commenting on a proposal, but from hearing her speak it sounds like she wants the county to live the way we all have to--within our means. And not raise taxes, especially at a time like this. I don't expect the Times to treat her fairly. They have their agenda

I'm truly hoping she wins. It would be a genuine breath of fresh air to have a decent person in that office for once.

Posted by: Michele on July 12, 2009 07:28 PM
3. Btw, based on prior experience with such: when a democrat claims they don't want to raise taxes, don't believe them!

Posted by: Michele on July 12, 2009 07:33 PM
4. I don't believe that the editorial was trying to sabotage Hutchison. I think she just gave a bad answer, and wasn't prepared for the question.

I'm sure she thinks that raising taxes during a recession are a bad idea. But if she can think fast enough on her feet to say so when asked, she doesn't belong in the job. The county apparatus will make mince meat of her if this is the best she can do.

I still think Ross Hunter is the only one of the gang who has the brains and management experience to get the county back in fiscal shape. He may not be perfect, and I'm not naive enough to think he won't propose higher taxes down the road, but at least he is bright enough to know that Triplett's plan is a non-starter.

County government has gotten too large and too expensive. That eliminates to the two council candidates. They are the ones who have presided over the present disaster. Their comments are worthless.

Posted by: janet s on July 12, 2009 07:58 PM
5. What Susan meant to say was that her reading comprehension isn't all that good and she wants to talk to God before she makes any decisions.

Wow, a republican who is even too dense to toe the party line...

Posted by: correctnotright on July 12, 2009 08:18 PM
6. Hutchison gave too naive and honest of an answer. Her resume may also be thin. She did not say instinctively what the people want to hear.

The others said what they believed the people wanted to hear and that's all they did. Is she the only non-Democrat running ? So, the Time will endorse one of the other four. PT Barnum said "There's a sucker born every minute". Many of them live in King County.

Posted by: KS on July 12, 2009 09:15 PM
7. Hutchison gave too naive and honest of an answer. Her resume may also be thin. She did not say instinctively what the people want to hear.

The others said what they believed the people wanted to hear and that's all they did. Is she the only non-Democrat running ? So, the Times will endorse one of the other four. PT Barnum said "There's a sucker born every minute". Many of them live in King County.

Posted by: KS on July 12, 2009 09:15 PM
8. Susan is an independent thinker and gave an honest answer. She refuses to tow ANY party line and wants to read the actual proposal, evaluate the justifications and ramifications before stating her position.

So refreshing to have a thoughtful individual give an honest answer -- even if it isn't politically expedient.

Posted by: Mike Baker the Bike Maker on July 12, 2009 09:22 PM
9. The political establishment in King County is shaken up by Susan Hutchison in this race.

How dare she step into this, without the blessing of the ruling class!

How dare she talk about the failings of the prevailing order!

Browbeat her for having ever supported conservative candidates. Impute and assume the worst motives possible on her part. Then, patronize her by downplaying her long career in broadcasting as just a pretty face that read the news.

Hutchison has the mettle and staying power to win this race. But she's going to need help from the center, both right and left.

As for the Times editorial, so what?

Posted by: ConservativeD on July 12, 2009 11:37 PM
10. Like you expected the truth from the state run media?

Posted by: JoeBandMember on July 13, 2009 05:33 AM
11. Please. Dumbocrat Patty Murray is the dumbest piece of crap Democrat I have ever seen.

Yes, she is way dumber than Fat Al Gore.

Posted by: Dave on July 13, 2009 06:37 AM
12. Hmm, very interesting. Is Susan being criticized for refraining from commenting on a proposal she hasn't thoroughly read? What if Dave Reichert would have taken a similar approach on Cap-and-Tax and insisted on reading the entire bill (or at least allow staffers to thoroughly read it) BEFORE THE VOTE? What a crazy idea!

Posted by: Concerned Voter on July 13, 2009 08:37 AM
13. I think Susan Hutchinson should be commended for wanting to read the proposal first before supporting it. Obviously, the lady is literate, unlike the members of the state's Congressional delegation. I think the voters of the state should turn them out and get representatives that know how to read. That should be a basic requirement of all members of Congress. Vote 'em out!

Posted by: Walt K on July 13, 2009 08:37 AM
14. Come hear Alan Lobdell and Fred Jarrett speak at Liberty Supper Club, July 15 6:30pm, Las Margaritas, Bellevue, WA.

You buy your own dinner from the regular menu, no other cost. All welcome, please RSVP to LPWA.com1@gmail.com.

Posted by: Rachel H on July 13, 2009 02:17 PM
15. Hutchison is going nowhere in this race.
Assuming she was mis-quoted or short quoted, how bright do you need to be as a person whose most significant experience is in communications to let stand for an entire day a perception of your considering a tax hike for King County made by the only daily editorial page? How hard is it to post an expanded reply on the web page?

Hutchison is way out of her depth.

Posted by: MikeBoyScout on July 13, 2009 03:46 PM
16. You know, even the Times employees live here in Washington, and they've got to see the same train wreck coming that the rest of us see. Might be the perfect time to endorse some Republicans to blame for everything, huh?

Posted by: Reality on July 13, 2009 04:54 PM
17. "Hutchison is way out of her depth."

With Tax to the Max proving that "even a caveman can do it" I have no doubt that Susan will bring a refreshing change that is badly needed.

Posted by: alphabet soup on July 13, 2009 05:23 PM
18. @17 alphabet soup on July 13, 2009 05:23 PM,
"a refreshing change"???

How about a Coke and a smile?
Or Feel the Dew?
Or Fresh and clean as a whistle?

Never mind that pesky policy stuff.

:-D

Posted by: MikeBoyScout on July 13, 2009 05:55 PM
19. "Never mind that pesky policy stuff."

Why start now? Oh, you mean partisan lefty agendas. You got me there - Susan would never lower herself to that gutter...

Posted by: alphabet soup on July 13, 2009 06:06 PM
20. BS Boy likes Simms.

What more need be said?:-D

Posted by: Amused by Liberals on July 13, 2009 06:10 PM
21. The liberals sure are upset that Hutchison is doing so well in the primary polls. I would love to see Susan assume this office; it would be the end of corrupt-King-County-business-as-usual. Her democrat opponents in the race simply represent more of the same dysfunction Sims gave us. What's the point of returning THAT to the office?

Posted by: Michele on July 13, 2009 07:19 PM
22. She'll make a great Governor in 2012.

Posted by: JoeBandMember on July 13, 2009 08:30 PM
23. All you Hutchison supporters:

I have the same question for you that I had to Dems about Darcy Burner. What in her resume gives you any idea that she has the talent and experience to be county exec?

She has worked at non-profits, raising money and handing out grants. Before that, she read the news. That is scarcely an endorsement for keeping county expenses under control and managing a huge budget.

She is empty. She is raising money because she knows how, and she is the only Republican in the race. There has to be a better reason to vote for her than that.

Posted by: janet s on July 13, 2009 08:54 PM
24. The best reason to vote for Susan? She's NOT A DEMOCRAT!

Posted by: Silkworm on July 13, 2009 09:11 PM
25. Hey janet....What's all this Bleating about Susan Hutchison not being up to the job of keeping county expenses under control and managing a huge budget? All the wheels and procedures are already in place for the running of county government. If need be, County government could run by itself without a County Executive. All you have to do is sit in the Big Chair and play the game of government. What is needed, is not another typical dishonest politician to misappropriate funding and keep a bloated inefficient county government continuing to do business as usual. What you need is someone who is honest enough and with the common sense to do what is needed and what is right.

Posted by: Daniel on July 13, 2009 09:34 PM
26. Wow. That's the best you can do?

She's not a democrat and as far as we know she isn't a crook.

Got proof that Fred Jarrett or Ross Hunter are dishonest, and lack common sense? What is your evidence? I need something more substantive than "they are democrats". That's moronic.

You are proving why Republicans do so poorly in this state. You can't even launch a logical defense of your candidate. I was at least expecting something she has done that would support your contention that she is up to the task. But, sadly, no.

Just insults and ad hominem attacks.

Sorry. I'm a lifelong Republican, and I'm voting for Hunter. So far I haven't heard a good reason why I shouldn't.

Posted by: janet s on July 13, 2009 09:54 PM
27. It's not needed to do any better in replying to your comment @23. @26...You claim that personal attacks comprising of insults and ad hominem were made. That is not true. Read my comment and show me where I made those attacks. However, in this reply, I feel it is necessary to direct some attention to you personally. After all, you have made those false claims. First of all, lying is more typical of a Democrat. With your credibility at Zero surely, you can't expect I or other readers, to believe the phony Crap that your a lifelong Republican, can you? What a Laugh! Secondly, why would any thinking person elect another Democrat and expect to have any improvement over the last Democrat? Wouldn't make sense, would it?

Posted by: Daniel on July 13, 2009 11:07 PM
28. While we all want lower taxes, can we all agree that we're lucky to live in a state that is so dependent on consumption based taxes? Deriving a revenue stream from a sales tax drives politicians insane. That's why we ought to protect it.

We need to look at things big picture, here. If we coupled a sales tax increase with a meaningful reduction in property taxes, I would support it.

Sales taxes are great because if you don't like the tax, then don't pay it! Your 401k will thank you!

Posted by: AD on July 14, 2009 05:20 AM
29. @28...Are you kidding? We are lucky to live in a State that is do dependent on consumption based taxes? Washington State is one of the highest taxed States in the Nation. We certainly don't need any raise in taxes....PERIOD! Sales taxes are not Great. Your telling us we should forgo making desired and necessary purchases so, we can escape the Sales Tax and that's a good thing? You had better Wake Up! Increasing the Sales Tax is just a deeper grab for your hard earned money. High Sales Taxes not only allows Government to Steal more of your Money, it also, forces you to do with less. Such a Deal!

Posted by: Daniel on July 14, 2009 06:11 AM
30. @19 alphabet soup on July 13, 2009 06:06 PM.
said "Why start now? Oh, you mean partisan lefty agendas. You got me there - Susan would never lower herself to that gutter..."

On April 8th 2009 Susan Hutchison declared her candidacy for King County executive and said "We need a new direction in King County, with new leadership that does not believe the answer to every problem is a new fee or a higher tax,"

3 months later when questioned about a new tax proposal, Hutchison "wants to study the Triplett proposal before saying how she feels about it."

Alphabet, you may believe not raising taxes to be a 'lefty agenda', but I tend to think that fixing the budget without raising taxes AGAIN to be on everybody's agenda.
Well, with the possible exception of those looking for a refreshing change or needing time to study how they feel.

Posted by: MikeBoyScout on July 14, 2009 07:32 AM
31. Well I better just get this over with now. I will just state for the record this will be the one and only time that I say anything regarding this election between now and November 4th.


Susan knows that I believe in her and fully support
her in this race. Ultimately that's all that really
matters.


Jordan McCarren, Susan deserves a whole lot better than what you have done so far. Something I guess you will never understand. Because you don't get what she really means too King County and Seattle. Anyway that's all I'm going to say.
Other than to add that whether she wins or not I
will always believe in Susan.

Posted by: Phil Spackman on July 14, 2009 07:32 AM
32. Daniel at 29: NO, I am not kidding. We have high taxes, yes. Taxes should be lowered, yes. But my point is that not all taxes are equal.

Think about it. Taxes discourage the activity that is being taxed. Tax income and you disincentivize earning money. Tax property and you disincentivize home ownership and real estate investment. Tax purchases and you disincentivize... buying stuff. Yeah, some purchases are necessary, but you, the consumer, have complete control over what you buy and how much you spend on it. You have complete control over how much you pay in sales tax. The choice is wholly yours. And if you are like most Americans, you spend a LOT of money on stuff you do NOT need. (There is nothing wrong with that -- I think we should all be allowed to buy whatever useless stuff we want, but it's a CHOICE).

Please, go work for a year in Oregon or, better yet, California. These states have different systems of taxation and the only way to avoid those taxes is to spend a lot of time hanging out in homeless shelters.

My point is that raising a relatively good tax like the sales tax can be justified if it's offset with an equal or greater reduction in a bad tax like property taxes.

Posted by: AD on July 14, 2009 08:16 AM
33. Unfortunately I have to follow a slightly sappy and misguided post from Mr. Spackman. But I would like to congratulate Ms. Hutchison and staff on a well run campaign thus far. I assume they realize their work is far from over but that the momentum they are building could prove to be a enormous bearer of positive change in our county.

Posted by: BoobieMiles on July 14, 2009 08:52 AM
34. @32 AD...I understand the position you are trying make by accepting a higher Sales Tax for a lowering of the Property Tax. On paper such a proposal sounds good but, in practice it can be ruinous to the Economy. Buying and Selling also, known as Commerce, is the foundation of a good Economy. You stifle Commerce, you stifle the Economy. Without a good Economy your investments in all other areas of home, real estate, businesses etc., all lose value. You heard of the Luxury Tax haven't you? Well guess what?....The Government on it's own volition, repealed the Tax because the Government realized it cost jobs and associated sales where the Luxury Tax cost more to Government revenues than it gained. My point is don't ever attempt to negotiate with Government over substituting one kind of Tax for another. Government will make sure that it will not lose overall revenue. Government will make sure that revenue will Increase and that means in the end, you will have less of your own money in your pocket. Bottom Line: No raising Taxes of any kind but, a Reduction of Taxes....PERIOD!

Posted by: Daniel on July 14, 2009 11:54 AM
35. Nice to know that no one could come up with anything in Susan Hutchison's resume that would indicate she has any capacity to be King County Executive.

Oh, except for Mr. Spackman, who says that because he is devoted to her, that is all that is needed.

Okay.

I say you go with the best person for the job, who actually has demonstrated the ability to manage people and a budget, shows focus to getting a task completed, and has the ability to string together more than two sentences. Ross Hunter is the only one qualified on these points.

Posted by: Janet s on July 14, 2009 04:54 PM
36. Get Real...Janet. Your stumping for Ross Hunter is a Joke. Your lack of creditability of claiming to be a lifetime Republican, says it all. It is obvious that your a Liberal Democrat. Nuff said.

Posted by: Daniel on July 14, 2009 05:21 PM
37. Sorry, Daniel, but if your only argument is that the those who disagree with you are cheats and liars, you are not a serious person. I've asked for reasons to vote for someone. You attack me. That says volumes about you as a person, and the quality of your candidate.

Posted by: Janet s on July 14, 2009 05:54 PM
38. You're the one who made the false claim @26 that I was making personal attacks when, none was made. Plus, making the false claim that you were a lifelong Republican. Should I or anyone else take you at your word? I think not. As far as reasons for electing Susan Hutchison, I gave you honesty, common sense. I also said, Why would any thinking person elect another Democrat and expect to have any improvement over the last Democrat? Wouldn't make sense, would it? That already having been said, puts your remarks @37 of not receiving any reasons to vote for Susan Hutchison as disingenuous. But then, what else would you expect from a Liberal.

Posted by: Daniel on July 14, 2009 06:32 PM
39. Here is exactly what you said:

"Hey janet....What's all this Bleating about Susan Hutchison not being up to the job of keeping county expenses under control and managing a huge budget? All the wheels and procedures are already in place for the running of county government. If need be, County government could run by itself without a County Executive. All you have to do is sit in the Big Chair and play the game of government. What is needed, is not another typical dishonest politician to misappropriate funding and keep a bloated inefficient county government continuing to do business as usual. What you need is someone who is honest enough and with the common sense to do what is needed and what is right."

Your case for Hutchison is she can sit in a big chair and play government. And she is honest.

But the question was: what in her resume qualifies her to run the county government? If you have someone in there who doesn't have a clue what to do, it doesn't matter how honest she is. She will be powerless, and the county government will be without leadership. Then watch how things deteriorate.

It isn't good enough for you to accuse the other candidates of being dishonest and willing to steal money. Got any evidence? Of course not. It is slanderous, and a lazy argument.

Give it up. Just say you will vote for Hutchison because she is a Republican. And in your mind, even an incompetent Republican who is in over her head and will be managed by the entrenched of the county is better than anyone else. At least you would be honest.

Posted by: janet s on July 14, 2009 09:21 PM
40. You are not only disingenuous, you are confused and naive as well. Government requires more than leadership, it requires intelligence and honesty. Needless to say, I have never directly accuse any of the other candidates of being dishonest as you have just accuse me of doing so. But, being a Liberal you will continue to make false accusations in an effort to downplay valid statements and arguments presented that you can't defend against. What a FARCE! Do you really believe all the Crap you spew?

Do you really believe that County Government is being run efficiently and effectively now? I mean, when has it ever been run efficiently and effectively. What a Joke! Do you really believe that replacing a known failed Democrat with another Democrat is going to improve County Government? Of course, you do. You're a Liberal and Liberals will continue to make the same mistakes over and over again.

Back to Liberals being congenital Liars....Liberals have no shame, they just Lie, Lie and Lie. You have proved that here on this forum more than once. What a Surprise!

Posted by: Daniel on July 14, 2009 10:33 PM
41. And in all your ranting about liberals, you still haven't made a case for Susan Hutchison.

No, I don't believe county government is being run well right now. It is being badly mismanaged. That's why I am looking forward to a new administration that has experience and the ability to get things done.

We need someone who will approach the job as a place to be managed, not a place for political experiments. We need someone who can look at the bloated wages and benefit packages, and negotiate new terms.

We need someone who can live within the means provided, and can figure out how to upset the existing structure to make it happen.

We don't need someone who hasn't got a clue, and doesn't have the gumption to take the lead. We need someone who can think on their feet, and isn't afraid to upset a few people.

I'm waiting for you to point out to me what is in Hutchison's resume that indicates she can do any of this.

Posted by: janet s on July 14, 2009 10:50 PM
42. In answer to your request as to what Hutchison's qualifications are to become King County Executive, I have already given you some of the unassailable qualities of being intelligent and honest. This is a must for a solid foundation to build solid structure on in making the necessary and rightful decisions in making King County truly work. It is a must, to represent the needs and give the Greatest return for the Tax Dollar of Service to the residents of King County. That having been already said, I can give you a few more: She is the current chair of a 100,000,000 foundation known as the Seattle Symphony which was on the verge of collapse when she entered the scene and of dire circumstances but, with her input and leadership was able to be turned around with a balance budget for two years. She has had the experience of being on a ten member election task force to improve voter confidence. She has been bringing the news as a news commentator for many years. She is experienced in dealing with the public. She is non-partisan and most importantly...She is not a Politician!

Posted by: Daniel on July 15, 2009 09:44 AM
43. Get off the honesty line. Ross Hunter and Fred Jarrett are just as honest and probably a lot more intelligent.

The Seattle Symphony is now in better shape because she asked for more money. She did nothing to cut back expenses. So, are you saying that she will raise taxes to solve the county problems?

I'm not sure about you, but my confidence in the voter process in King County hasn't increased much. Guess her tenure on this committee was more window dressing than actual policy making.

This is a non-partisan race. None of the candidates have a party affiliation.

You have to do better than this.

Posted by: janet s on July 15, 2009 10:39 PM
44. Quit being an IDIOT! We all know that Ross Hunter and Fred Jarrett are both Democrats. They may be running as non-partisan but, both have careers as Democrats. Those two being non-partisan is a hands down FARCE! For you to buy into that non-partisan Crap simply because, the position is non-partisan and all of a sudden the two Democrats are no longer Democrats perhaps, calling you an IDIOT is not strong enough. For you to discount Susan Hutchison because, she asked for more money, if she did ask for more money, and without further ado on her part everything was solved. Get Real! It took a lot more than, asking for more money to bring things around to operate in a more cost effective manner. First of all, if that was all that was required to balance the budget, why didn't her predecessors simply ask for more money? You would have to show proof that that was the case. Until then and since your credibility is so bankrupted, I don't believe you.

Anybody, belonging to such a corrupted party as the Democrat party with such, a long criminal history, including lies and failures is immediately suspect of having a lacking of morals and understanding. Tell me of one Democrat that has ever been known for his honesty and wisdom...you can't!

Posted by: Daniel on July 15, 2009 11:41 PM
45. I will vote for anyone who complains that 117 thousand employees of King County is way too much, no matter what they are doing! The county is a bloated out of control animal, and the only thing to do is to slash the payroll, and let the people of this county live their lives without all this "help" from the county. What exactly is it a county government should provide for the citizens of the county. We are so far from the basics it is hard to comprhend.

Posted by: cindy on July 19, 2009 09:48 AM
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