The Sierra Club is carpetbombing Seattle with campaign flyers (again)
Yes, they're wasting lots of trees and throwing trash on other people's property. But they're doing it to save the Environment!
I hope people recycle their paper mail.
Posted by: John Jensen on October 10, 2009 01:25 PMRemember the millions of illegal donations to the Obama campaign using checkout aisle gift cards? Gift cards used to launder multiple cash donations with fake addresses and names.
Or how about all the improperly counted provisional ballots in the 2004 gubernatorial race?
They do whatever it takes to get their candidate in to power, even if it is illegal, unethical, or just embarrassingly hypocritical.
Posted by: Jeff B. on October 10, 2009 03:33 PMhttp://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8299079.stm
Posted by: Gary on October 10, 2009 05:58 PMHutchison for me.
Don't forget folks, this guy is one of the architects of the problem.
Posted by: G Jiggy on October 10, 2009 08:12 PMMcGinn's the conservative. There you guys go again getting sweet on tax-and-spend projects just as long as they're highways.
I gave McGinn money and now I'm going to put up a McG yard sign. (It'll go nice with my Yes on 71 sign--another conserative cause--which is coming in the mail.)
Best wishes everyone,
new left conservative 1
Posted by: new left conservative 1 on October 10, 2009 10:43 PMThere is going to be an effort to pass this cap-and-trade bill now because even the BBC knows that when you go from 23bln tons of CO2 to 29bln tons, and the earth fails to warm up at all, then someone has been telling a great big fib, and their time is running out.
The innocent people who believed this nonsense should be greatly relieved that it was all a "mistake". I suspect some will not be.
-Volunteer Posted by: kurisu on October 11, 2009 08:59 AM
I don't suppose you have a posting about the waste of handing out phone books door to door every year. I thought not.
This false outrage over hand-delivered political info is ridiculous - if you don't like the pro-conservation candidates, that's fine. But don't pretend this posting is for any purpose other than to tell us you prefer to vote for right wingers like Hutchison. You must be missing George Bush very much.
Posted by: Monica Beckett on October 11, 2009 10:20 AMAre they a bunch of hypocritical kooks? I just report. You decide.
Posted by: Bill Cruchon on October 11, 2009 10:46 AMWhen are you and the Sierra Club going to back off the politics and deal with only the issues ? i believe when pigs fly, but you can show that it will happen before then. I am not holding my breath.
Posted by: KDS on October 11, 2009 11:11 AMTypical Dowist campaigning tactics.
Posted by: Smokie on October 11, 2009 11:39 AMMail pieces are the most effective way to change minds. There's nothing wrong with political activists getting their message out. But if this was REALLY about the environment, as opposed to money, then they wouldn't spend so much on glossy, heavy-weight paper (is it 100% recycled content??), fancy, toxic dyes, and postage (so the USPS can burn diesel, jet fuel, and gasoline to get it to your door).
Posted by: AD on October 11, 2009 12:06 PMSheesh, we have an 18-year old Toyota Corolla that we just drove to Chelan. It got 39mpg, and it has 4-doors and a big trunk.
You have to laugh at these people.
Posted by: Bill Cruchon on October 11, 2009 12:26 PMThe Sierra Club is much more potent political force than the N.R.A.
The Sierra Club has finished closing down the woods, and filling their coffers using the Endangered Species Act, now they have nothing left in their business plan but to close down your backyard using a new buffed up Invasive Species Act.
Have you noticed that when an urban plan is hatched, the Sierra Club is one of the first "go- to" organizations for opinions published in the media?
I am an avid alpine hiker, and I have followed the philosophy of the Sierra Club since 1967 when I became a member.
I felt good about my membership then, when their goal was to get people into the woods.
Now I consider the Sierra Club and their competitors and collaborators in the "Anti-Human NIMBY Clubs" to be part of the possible decline of this country.
Currently, their activities shift resource production from the first world to the third world where it can't be done properly.
That is temporary. By hobbling existing resource producers they are shifting the power base to aid in their power-grab. They have already sponsored "Green Logging" programs right here in King County via their Evergreen Forest proposal.
Next will be "Green Mining".
DO NOT underestimate the manipulation skills and overglorify the real motives of the Sierra Club.
I once told the Sierra Club volunteers who showed up on my porch to leave my property. Now I invite them in for a lecture from me, and to hand them a photocopy of the illuminating special by Tom Knudson in the April 22-26, 200l Sacramento Bee.
"Fat of the Land"
Find it on the internet.
I'd re-publish it there myself, but my website would be hacked by self righteous college kids with time on their hands.
Back then their goal was to get people INTO the backcountry in order that they might enjoy it.
Slowly their philosophy transformed into a political and business tactic.
Posted by: Bart Cannon on October 11, 2009 01:39 PMThe far left uses these organizations as vehicles to push their all controlling socialist goals. They have taken them over.
We're talking about people who literally go to bed and wake up trying to figure out new ways to control how we live. It's what they enjoy. It's who they are. It's why they were attracted to left in the first place. It's why I can't stand them
Posted by: Bill Cruchon on October 11, 2009 02:14 PMWould love to see some new expose on ACORN in Seattle. I'm sure you have connections and talent to discover the fraud .Can't wait for your update. Posted by: George Majercak on October 11, 2009 05:57 PM
1) this wasn't done by mail, it was hand delivered by walking volunteers
2) the volunteers and materials came from a variety of campaigns...there is only one piece that has the Sierra Club's name on it, only one they printed.
3) The Sierra Club is not a wealthy organization. In fact, it is a volunteer run organziation with some 80% of its work done pro-bono by everyone from professionals to average citizens. The local chapter has a whopping 4 staff. And of course its not perfect but what human powered enterprise ever has been?
3) Contrary to what some of the crazier right-wingers may think, being concerned about the enivronmentalist doesn't mean lviing in a cave without using any energy. It's really just about a term they used to love, "progress".
We have cleaner and more effecient cars, lets use them
There are ways to build our cities that make it easier for people to get around and reduce pollution, lets do that
There are better ways to manage our forests for both producing lumber and protecting wild places, lets try that
And, of course, there are better candidates for office than others...lets elect them!
Posted by: Stevens ignorance astounds me on October 12, 2009 09:38 AMOne thing I would like to ask these people is to name one thing they advocate that does not make life more inconvenient and expensive. For example, those ridiculuous mercury filled lightbulbs.
Posted by: Bill Cruchon on October 12, 2009 11:42 AMMike McGinn, (who has been a Sierra Club activist), advocates tearing down the Alaskan Way Viaduct and replacing it with a "boulevard" along the waterfront.
That foolish plan would clog the waterfront with idling, polluting traffic. McGinn somehow believes everyone would immediately ride bicycles. Like most liberals he forgets that many vehicles are commercial. One wonders if McGinn and other leftists ever ponder how goods get to and from the marketplace.
In the end, besides ruining tourism on the waterfront, McGinn's poorly thought out plan ends up polluting the air more than either a shored up viaduct or a tunnel would.
It's sort of like building a rail system without parking at the terminals. But I digress.
Posted by: Bill Cruchon on October 12, 2009 12:01 PMSome of that power derives from the zealotry of their volunteer army.
The Sierra Club is behind the language of many environmental laws. This language is designed to facilitate winning lawsuits.
When the Sierra Club wins an Endangered Species Lawsuit, for example, their most effective money maker, they collect the damages and the attorney fees.
And they almost always win.
Don't forget the income from their millions of dues paying members.
Again, I suggest that people seek out the Special to the Sacramento Bee for more information.
The Sierra Club's 5 story headquarter's in the Bay Area is quite well appointed. Including computer servers etc. And Friday afternoon martini parties by guys in suits. Not that I abhor suits or martini's.
And the anonymous contributor should do a little easy research before contstructing his moniker.
Posted by: Bart Cannon on October 12, 2009 12:17 PM
Shocking.
Posted by: Bill Cruchon on October 12, 2009 12:39 PM"EARTHJUSTICE" located in Oakland, CA.
I, and every homeowner in Seattle recently received a heartwarming and benign looking cardstock mailing from Earthjustice imploring every good citizen to contact the Department of Energy and demand a "sensible" energy policy.
The kicker is that the mailing goes to Earthjustice and NOT the Department of Energy.
CraftyShify membership recruiting hiding as a non-profit drive.
Posted by: Bart Cannon on October 12, 2009 12:47 PMI get so mad about how Nickels ran Seattle. Who wants more of that? I figure McGinn will have all the inside information to do what's right and will lay it out in plain english. He's not crazy and won't do the surface-transit idea if for sure it won't work. Mallahan will just take charge and act like he owns the place like Nickels did.
Who's the kick-butt candidate? Mike McGinn! I've met him and don't want to get between him and his beer.
Posted by: Wells on October 12, 2009 06:20 PMI get so mad about how Nickels ran Seattle. Who wants more of that? I figure McGinn will have all the inside information to do what's right and will lay it out in plain english. He's not crazy and won't do the surface-transit idea if for sure it won't work. Mallahan will just take charge and act like he owns the place like Nickels did.
Who's the kick-butt candidate? Mike McGinn! I've met him and don't want to get between him and his beer.
Posted by: Wells on October 12, 2009 06:20 PMI think I would dislike Mallahan the least of the three. And that is the state of politics in America.
McGinn IS the "kick-butt" candidate.
He is also the "trip-wire" candidate.
And by the way that bicycle of his....
It has an electric motor, beer drinker assist.
Posted by: Bart Cannon on October 13, 2009 08:24 AMI do NOT like Nickels! I do NOT like Nickels!
Bart Cannon stating he likes Nickels for eternity.
Read your posts ! And use a moniker !
I'm converted.
Posted by: bart cannon on October 13, 2009 08:28 AMShould have written "re-read your posts", and very importantly.....
Earth Justice, not Earth First as McGinn's employer.
Within the Sierra Club as a whole, there may be some crossover on the latter
Posted by: Bart Cannon on October 13, 2009 08:32 AMLeftists are so much fun to watch. When their programs fail it is always due to a lack of funding, (public schools, anyone?).
It doesn't really matter which one of these people we elect. They will do what leftists always do, make our lives more inconvenient and expensive. Just ask the people that have to take the bus to get to their light rail station. Don't like the bus? Liberals like McGinn tell you to ride a bicycle in a northern, cold, rainy city where the weather is miserable two thirds of the year. It that what "progressives" call progress?
McGinn seems to make a lot of his bicycle riding. He must not ride very far. He looks like he is carrying more than a few extra pounds to me.
People with common sense decide to just drive instead. They don't have two hours a day to waste on the liberals idea of commuting. They don't want to share part of their days with lice infested crazy people or young angry thugs. That might explain why the light rail trains aren't filled with riders. Liberals don't have a clue. If they did perhaps once in a while one of their programs would actually be a success.
Posted by: Bill Cruchon on October 13, 2009 09:25 AMThat ought to find you living in a mud hut somewhere.
Leftists don't have a clue about their blessings. A few months of primative living...or even living like our grandparents did in 1900 would have them crying for the comforts they take for granted.
Posted by: Bill Cruchon on October 13, 2009 09:34 AMI'm not against mining, timber forestry, nor automobiles. Preserving our most scenic land is wise, as is maintaining healthy forests, streams and fish runs. If you can't empathize with the severe problem Seattle has with traffic, your criticism is useless. I believe Seattle's transportation plans are failing because of 'suspiciously' incompetent design, and a clean sweep at City Hall is absolutely necessary. Since Mallahan is the heir apparent, he's a part of the problem.
Posted by: Wells on October 13, 2009 01:06 PMI'm not against mining, timber forestry, nor automobiles. Preserving our most scenic land is wise, as is maintaining healthy forests, streams and fish runs. If you can't empathize with the severe problem Seattle has with traffic, your criticism is useless. I believe Seattle's transportation plans are failing because of 'suspiciously' incompetent design, and a clean sweep at City Hall is absolutely necessary. Since Mallahan is the heir apparent, he's a part of the problem.
Posted by: Wells on October 13, 2009 01:07 PMThe problem is that whether we elect McGinn or Mallahan we just end up with irresponsible liberal governance. Liberals can't manage anything. Perhaps Wells you might provide some concrete evidence of where a single liberal program has come in under budget. Betcha can't find a single one.
Oh and no, despite your absurd claims, conservatives never have advocated clear cutting Yosemite, mining the Grand Canyon, or turning Crater Lake into a speedboat venue. I'll leave it to you to provide a single bit of evidence that what you say is true. I expect that you can't.
Sick of these people yet?
Posted by: Bill Cruchon on October 13, 2009 01:26 PMDoesn't this just say in a single sentence everything about the modern left?
Here's a person who sneers at our right to drive the vehicle of our choice. I wonder if he has considered that many people need 300hp vehicles in order to maintain their farms, deliver goods, and transport their families.
Meanwhile Wells has no problem with Obama who flies all over the country in a carbon spewing jet nearly every day. He and his wife flew seperately to Copenhagen.
How many years would one have to drive a "300HP 8cyl motorcar?" to equal the "carbon footprint" the Obamas created in that single day? Wells doesn't care.
Sick of these people yet?
People like "Wells" who think if it weren't for them Crater Lake would have been turned into "a speedboat racetrack". Only a leftist would say things like that. Whoever "Wells" is hasn't a bloody clue about boatracing. It's pure made-up garbage and "Wells" knows it. That's simply another example of why I can't stand these rotten people. They make things up and they lie. Honest arguments and reasonable discussion is one thing. The left simply collects dishonest, nasty people. How many examples do we need? I am tired of putting up with them and trying to be nice to them. We need to drive a stake through their dishonest, nasty, socialist hearts.
These same nuts think we don't have enough trees in Seattle. As John McEnroe says, "you can't be serious!"
We're going to get a liberal loon as mayor no matter how we vote.
But then again, we live in Seattle. What do we expect?
I think the public schools are the best example of why liberalism is a failure. We've pumped money into the schools year after year and they never have enough. We pass funding levy after levy. Those in charge of the schools simply bloat their staffs with psychologists who earn 100,000 a year, (nearly every school has one now). They waste money as if the source of it was unending. They have conferences, and retreats. Do they care about actually educating children? Some do of course, and they have to fight the liberals who are partying with the publics money. That's what they do. That's what liberals do. The US spends more money on education per child than any other country and it is never enough. Nice work, liberals. Once people finally figure out you are a bunch of spoiled phonies that have been using our tax money to indoctrinate children you will be finished. It can't happen fast enough as far as I am concerned.
Posted by: Bill Cruchon on October 13, 2009 06:36 PMAs for liberal politics, McGinn is taking a 'conservative' stance on the Deep-bore - its outrageous cost. I have no ties with the McGinn campaign. I only met him in passing at an event, shook his hand and gave him two thumbs up.
SDOT is screwed up, but Mallahan is going along with the Nickels crew. Nothing will change it seems with Mallahan. All right? I'm a carpenter who hung doors for a living many years. In that business, politics had no place. Just fix the door, lock, whatever, thank you very much, good job guaranteed. I'm no liberal. Last time I checked, being liberal is still a constitutionally protected right. If you don't like either candidate, don't vote. Geez.
Posted by: Wells on October 13, 2009 09:29 PMWells denies being a liberal and then says, "being liberal is still a constitutionally protected right."
Wells is also another one of these people who somehow believe there is no wilderness left. There are places I could drop him off within a 1-hour drive from Seattle that he could not find his way out of. It happens to these big city fools every winter.
Bleah!
Posted by: Bill Cruchon on October 14, 2009 08:51 AMThis is who liberals really are. No one ever threatened this individual's right to their political beliefs but they write, "Last time I checked, being liberal is still a constitutionally protected right." Oh but they are not a liberal. You just have to laugh.
At some point you know these people and how they react. You don't have to be Sam Spade to figure them out.
Posted by: Bill Cruchon on October 14, 2009 11:07 AMTwo separate planes to Copenhagen? Oh please.
Wells apparently has no problem with that. Instead Wells makes silly references to speedboat racing on Crater Lake, clear cutting Yosemite, and 300HP 8cyl motorcars. But Wells can't possibly be a liberal spouting that kind of rhetoric.
If Wells had the slightest bit of courage he would use his own name here. I am so sick and tired of these lying, gutless cowards.
Civilized discussion with liberals has always been nearly impossible.
Posted by: Bill Cruchon on October 14, 2009 11:31 AMThe post at #50 is certainly a wonderful example of what I talk about repeatedly. The left attracts truly nasty people. I think post #50 is a perfect illustration.
We don't have to make it up.
Posted by: Bill Cruchon on October 14, 2009 02:29 PMDoes the post here at #50 by "Wells" not illustrate to even the most casual reader what sort of loonies occupy the modern left?
Certainly it should. "Wells" is a cowardly sniveler that hasn't the guts to post under his actual name. Gosh, what a surprise!
The left is filled with pantywaists such as "Wells"
What do they do when they are confronted? Well, one only needs to read comment #50. Speaks for itself, doesn't it, folks?
Posted by: Bill Cruchon on October 14, 2009 07:28 PMI regularly use humor in writing, believing it's a good way to break ice and laugh at ourselves, but humor is lost on you. I waited a day to see if anyone whom you make appeals to might post something, but apparently you've lost the audience, probably a long long time ago.
Posted by: Wells on October 15, 2009 10:34 AMWhining about how you are treated here when you talked about Crater Lake being "turned into a speedboat racetrack" is truly astounding.
Your ridiculous, unhinged post at #50 speaks for itself. Let's review:
"What is this? A Walt Disney animation feature production? Snarl! Gasp! Ah-Hah! Dramatic background orchestra keeping a frenetic pace!! Drums!! Oh, the suspense! Will heroic clay man Mr Bill not be rolled flat once again by any handy object that will surpass for rolling pin deliverance? Tune in tomorrow folks, for the exciting conclusion of "FUTILITY IN ACTION", starring Mr Bill Cruchon, writerist with nothing better to do! Symbols crash!!!!"
As the Pythons used to say, "you're a looney!".
Posted by: Bill Cruchon on October 15, 2009 11:27 AMInstead you do what liberals nearly always do simply resort to unpleasant personal attacks. You cannot defend liberal programs when asked.
You and McGinn want to tell us to ride bicycles in this rain soaked cold climate, yet you ignore the point I made about Obama and how he and his wife flew in seperate airplanes to Denmark.
You are simply a pantywaist crybaby that hasn't the courage to mount a decent argument. Instead of a coherent discussion you end up descending into a pile of truly embarrasing blubber as you did at post #50.
You weren't angry about namecalling at all. What caused you to snap was your inability to respond to an argument.
When we ask you liberals to name liberal programs that have been a success your heads explode.
They'll say stuff like Wells did:
"How better to appreciate the beauty and eternal meaningfulness of a 300HP 8cyl motorcar?"
I am tired of being nice to you leftists. It's about time we start playing hardball with you unpleasant people. It's what you deserve.
Posted by: Bill Cruchon on October 15, 2009 12:13 PMI just love it when liberals lose it.
It demonstrates who they are. Not exactly nice people, are they?
Well, these are the folks that love Che, Castro, Mao, and Karl Marx.
Gosh, it's only a couple months before these wonderful people wage their annual war on the Christmas season.
Are most Americans finally getting tired of these politically correct fascists? Darned right we are.
Posted by: Bill Cruchon on October 15, 2009 04:21 PM