February 03, 2010
A Governor Who Gets It

Virginia's newly inaugurated Republican Governor, Bob McDonnell, has promised to privatize that state's liquor stores.

Our Governor, on the other hand, has convinced herself that selling Blue Curacao is a core function of government.

Discuss.

Posted by Stefan Sharkansky at February 03, 2010 05:53 PM | Email This
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1. Starve the beast, shop out of state until we get rid of the state run stores.

Posted by: jimt on February 3, 2010 07:10 PM
2. I haven't even been a fan of changing how it's been done up til now, but the economic times and this video make a very compelling case. Washington should try this. Gregoire, you call yourself a progressive? How about actually BEING what you claim to be and having an open mind about this? If I can, you can!

Posted by: Michele on February 3, 2010 07:21 PM
3. I like a bit of Baileys in my morning coffee. (I am retired) The Queen's ripoff stores charge me $10 per 1.75L bottle more than a typical Nevada retail outlet. WHY?

Posted by: Saltherring on February 3, 2010 07:27 PM
4. Regressive laws almost always restrict sales and development of capital. This industry is being suppressed,by government. They think they know everything but they know nothing. They are all process and little substance. This could be a big money maker if deregulated. They know how to spend not produce income unless it is out of your pocket.

All they have to do is supply basic services and balance the budget. I think it is about time to bring in the adults and put these folks on a budget and start thining things out in government.

Posted by: bill on February 3, 2010 07:45 PM
5. I really do not want either the state or private industry to sell demon alachol. Lets go dry.

Posted by: Mathew "RennDawg" Renner on February 3, 2010 09:04 PM
6. I really do not want either the state or private industry to sell demon alachol.

Well, Mathew, it might astonish you, but you do realize this country was founded by people that consisted of heavy, yet highly intelligent, imbibers of "demon alcohol" and managed to contribute to a brilliant document that has sustained our country for more than 200 years until 'sober' politicians (and courts) of today have systematically dismantled it in the last 35 or so, right?

Privatize this industry. This is not a function of a nannystate/incompetent state government. It is simply a revenue generator for the pigs in the Olympia to feed at the trough of.

Posted by: Rick D. on February 3, 2010 09:41 PM
7. Who could possibly be opposed to such a no brainer as privatizing liquor stores? Unions, say no more, say no more............

Posted by: John Chittick on February 3, 2010 09:49 PM
8. Alcohol and nicotine are the "poor man's prozac".

But, unlike Prozac, dose, result and side effects are far more controllable and predictable.

Washington State has the highest liquor taxes and maybe the highest tobacco taxes in the country.

Gasoline is now used mainly by sinners. I think the "sin tax" on gasoline in Washington is also the highest in the nation.

This is classism.

We could have an utter house cleaning on Washington State government if the pre-tax cost on liquor, cigarettes and gasoline where posted on the pump and shelf, and then the doubling and tripling of the final cost were delivered at the check out line.

Posted by: Bart Cannon on February 3, 2010 09:55 PM
9. Here's what I had to say about it.

http://itsonlywords55.wordpress.com/2010/01/26/a-tale-of-two-governors/

Posted by: itsonlywords on February 3, 2010 10:17 PM
10. Where is Billy Sunday when we need him. Booze is evil.

Posted by: Mathew "RennDawg" Renner on February 3, 2010 10:20 PM
11. I don't drink alcohol, and I strongly encourage everyone else to avoid it altogether. There is no good in drinking alcohol.

However, we have a choice as a people.

(1) Ban alcohol altogether. This will drive the alcohol industry underground. However, it has the positive effect of eliminating it from the public, for the most part. It is true that alcohol consumption and public drunkenness decreased when the alcohol ban was in effect. However, it is also true that criminal organizations greatly profited from the tax-free alcohol industry.

(2) Tax it heavily, but not too heavily that it is driven underground. In this road, we tax it so we get less of it. Only those who are rich can really afford to get drunk. We make sure the taxes are as high as possible, but not so high that people are smuggling it into the state or that we develop a black market for alcohol. In other words, if imbibers had to choose between the black market or the high taxes, set the taxes so that they will choose the taxes over the black market.

(3) Don't tax it at all. In this approach, we let market forces determine the price. The true price of alcohol, however, is very cheap, probably cheaper than soda pop.

Socialization of industry is never an option in my book. Government should do as little as possible---only those things the people cannot do as efficiently as government. Distributing alcohol is something that the people can do far better than the state.

I don't believe in our political environment (1) is even possible, let alone desirable. I also don't think we should pass up the opportunity to at least derive some good from alcohol consumption by taxing it.

Therefore, I support liberalizing the market and taxing the heck out of alcohol. At least we can get some good from those who want to ruin their lives with alcohol.

Following this argument logically, we should do the same with every other type of drug that is not good for you.

On top of this, we should add laws against public drunkenness and such. If you're out in public in an inebriated or psychedelic state, you go straight to jail, and perhaps rehab. We'll send you a bill when you get out, or let you work it off in prison making license plates. If you can't destroy your body without hurting us, you don't deserve to be free.

Posted by: Jonathan Gardner on February 3, 2010 11:38 PM
12. Actually, what I would like to see is the type of Revival that happened under great preachers like Billy Sunday. When people gave up drinking. I want to see a world where no one wants the stuff.

Posted by: Mathew "RennDawg" Renner on February 4, 2010 01:24 AM
13. Jonathon,

I don't like bean sprouts !

They are one of the leading sources of food borne illness.

I say tax the hell out of them !!!

Plus they never lead to first time sex like alcohol is famous for.

Hmmm.

Alcohol gets the "Gold Star" for the initiation of human intimacy. Do you want to tax the hell out of that ?

Are you still single?

Posted by: Bart Cannon on February 4, 2010 02:39 AM
14. Therefore, I support liberalizing the market and taxing the heck out of alcohol. At least we can get some good from those who want to ruin their lives with _____

The problem with this argument, Jonathan, is that you can point to almost anything and say people are "ruin[ing] their lives with [it]". I thought you were more of a libertarian in your views so it surprises me that you would single out this one legal action for excessive taxation. Meanwhile, we have an overweight population and an ever increasing problem of childhood obesity rates. Aren't they ruining their lives as well? If nothing else, they are putting their health at risk long term by sustaining an unhealthy lifestyle and adding costs to all of us by driving up the cost of healthcare insurance. Perhaps we should target fast food, soda pop, snack items and sugar along with the alcohol, or we could just use some good common sense and leave people the hell alone to do what they want within the legal limits.

Posted by: Rick D. on February 4, 2010 06:05 AM
15. If we ban alochol in Washington does that mean we can get rid of that pesky billion dollar wine industry in the State?

Posted by: Smokie on February 4, 2010 07:26 AM
16. I am not a drinker nor in favor of prohibition. But I think the sale of hard liquor should remain with the state. I grew up in LA where you have a liquor store at every corner this is most noticeable in poorer neigborhoods. These places attract more drunks and crime to those areas. Having lived in both places now I much prefer the way Washington state sells liquor. Although I don't favor big government this is one of those cases of choosing the lesser evil.

Posted by: sam on February 4, 2010 08:05 AM
17. @15 Not to mention the multi-million dollar hop industry, and hundreds of microbreweries, etc, etc. Yeah, I don't think banning alcohol is ever going to happen.

I bet Rossi would have done something sensible like this. Too bad the populace here likes statists so much.

Posted by: Palouse on February 4, 2010 08:10 AM
18. Jesus drank wine... Heck, he made it!

Posted by: Shanghai Dan on February 4, 2010 09:08 AM
19. Sorry Sam. I grew up in Anchorage, Alaska, where there are also private liquor stores distributed widely around the entire city. These places do not "attract more drunks and crime", not even a little. The difference is that Anchorage does not have established, long term, perhaps ethnic, poorer neighborhoods. Its not the liquor stores that attract drunks and crime, its the "poorer neighborhoods" themselves, and the people who live there, who tend to be, to a higher degree than elsewhere, drunks and criminals. Gosh, can I say that?

Posted by: srogers on February 4, 2010 09:46 AM
20. Let's get rid of the demon rum.

Posted by: Crusader on February 4, 2010 12:52 PM
21. Check out your local liquor store's product line and public notices.

Don't you think that a responsible government purveyor of spirits would provide information in their stores about how to kick alcohol addiction?

Instead, all you will see is a small flyer about how to kick gambling addiction.

Is this a case of the left hand not knowing what the right hand is doing, or a case of the left hand knowing EXACTLY what the right hand is doing?

To their tiny credit liquour stores will provide you with an under the counter flyer on liquor taxation. Ask for, but be fore-warned that the numbers are not presented in their most telling way for the consumer.

Posted by: Bart Cannon on February 4, 2010 03:37 PM
22. And while we're at it, can we please get the government out of gambling and the lottery?

If some guy wants to set up a daily number lottery, why should he be restricted by a government monopoly?

Posted by: Dufus McBroke on February 4, 2010 04:15 PM
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