February 15, 2010
A Road to Serfdom (IV)

Reason:

Bigger government means more government employees. Those employees then become a permanent lobby for continual government growth. The nation may have reached critical mass; the number of government employees at every level may have gotten so high that it is politically impossible to roll back the bureaucracy, rein in the costs, and restore lost freedoms.
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The predictable results: Higher taxes, eroded public services, unsustainable levels of debt, and massive roadblocks to reforming even the poorest performing agencies and school systems. If this system is left to grow unchecked, we will end up with a pale imitation of the free society envisioned by the Founders.
Read the whole thing.

Posted by Stefan Sharkansky at February 15, 2010 09:30 AM | Email This
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1. Look at Brian Bairds wikipedia page under "Gaza". What it says there is the opposite of what he is quoted in the papers and Al Jazeera.
;)
What's going on??

Posted by: BW on February 15, 2010 10:00 AM
2. Stefan makes an important observation about one of the most fundamental long-term issues our Country faces:

The more people work for government at all levels, the more we tend to lose whatever competitive advantages we still have compared to the rest of the world. It may vary somewhat by agency, location, and profession; but in large part Government employees become more-or-less insulated from one of the core principals that makes capitalism work; i.e.:

There are signficant rewards for success; and penalties for failure. When performance becomes largely irrelevant to keeping your job (except perhaps for the most egregious cases); and especially if the worse an agency performs they just end up getting more funding; then the whole bureaucratic government structure tends to drift inexorably down to a lowest common denominator.

If this trend is not significantly reversed (let alone allowed to continue in this direction), China, India, and a number of other countries are going to eat our lunch (a friend recently made the comment that the way it's going now, they are going to have us for dessert real soon).

SIDEBAR suggested reading:
Edward Gibbon's classic 18th-century historical work: The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire.
Hopefully this country will wake up before we become another textbook case of how another great nation let itself slowly fade away.

Posted by: Methow Ken on February 15, 2010 10:50 AM
3. This is why the SEIU and AFSCME are among the biggest supporters of the Democrats, after the trial lawyers and AGW fanatics. This also why their party is imploding (with the likes of Evan Bayh and many others conveniently choosing not to run for re-election in 2010).

Sane liberals, the ones who have a conscience or a sliver of responsibility, realize the paths their marxist nutroot base insist on following will destroy our economy and our high standard of living for our children and grandchildren.

They see the writing on the wall and know that when the next major terrorst attack comes, their policy of restoring a pre-9/11 mentality/ approach to the war on islamic jihadism, mirandizing enemy combatants, and treating those who attempt mass murder via terrorism the same as we would treat a convenience store robbery suspect will come back to haunt their leftist, anti-american, obama leg-humping, enviro fanatic selves.
They spend years trying to convince the American people that they are not liberals. Thanks to president teleprompter we are all being treated to a refresher course on what liberalism means.

Posted by: Attila on February 15, 2010 11:10 AM
4. Folks, look at Greece. They need to cut their budget dramatically. The very proposal sends government employees rioting in the streets. This is a country that has a choice between chaos and bankruptcy, because they have allowed the government employees to grow too powerful.

Rather than government employees, we should force the state to distribute any work it needs to get done to the private sector. The way we renew our license tabs is a great example of how this can be done.

If we do so, we will have thousands of people competing with each other for government contracts, none of which will have enough power to dictate politics. If any one group or company does grow powerful, their greed will leave room for a new competitor in the market.

In the state government, there will only be a few bureaucrats whose job it is to create, distribute, and validate contracts. These will be little more than legislative paiges, who can do nothing more than answer to the legislature and governor for their behavior and without any long-term job security.

Posted by: Jonathan Gardner on February 15, 2010 01:05 PM
5. There was a guy posting here recently defending his public union job of inspections. They have a new trumped up name for that, they call it "Code Enforcement." They drive around in a fancy new fleet of beefed up trucks with flashing lights and lettering made to look like police cars. Very threatening large tire rigs. The intent is to scare people in to "compliance" with a wide array of ridiculous inspection hurdles. Of course some reasonable inspection for safety are in order, but inspection long ago stopped being reasonable city activity and became a nightmare of fees and red tape designed to enhance local coffers. There are a multitude of arcane rules for everything and they generally thwart do-it-your-selfers that are doing entirely reasonable work on their own property such as building a fence or a deck. Everything is assumed to be too unsafe to be handled by the individual without the supervision of the nanny state.

Like red lights cams and parking meter fees, its not about safety or service anymore, it's about "new sources of revenue" to pay for the Hydra of Government.

People in public service should be ashamed of themselves. They have bloated our bureaucracy, created massive deficits and debt that we won't recover from, and generated unsustainable lifestyles and expectations of pensions and other perks that go far beyond what any reasonable privately employed citizen could expect. But shame is not in the DNA of a person that will accept a $100k per year job without near the expectation of education or experience credentials of a similar paying job in the private sector.

The meltdown is looming. And eventually many of these people are going to find themselves unemployed and not sought after by private employers that will know they have grown to use to exorbitant benefits, a lack of merit to determine whether they should stay employed, and often a lazy and unproductive attitude.

Posted by: Jeff B. on February 15, 2010 01:31 PM
6. Thought I'd get a property tax break this year after my 2010 assessment came in DOWN 12.6%. But hey, this is King County, WA. What goes up does not necessarily come down.

I did get a break, but less than half the drop in home value. My 12.6% drop in home value will get me a 6% drop in my property taxes this year.

Just another example of how government can do whatever the hell it wants to as long as half the voters don't have a stake in the consequences of the votes they cast. And as the left works to register more and more people in that category, the vote of the working class of Americans gets more and more watered down.

Posted by: Reality on February 15, 2010 01:52 PM
7. Excellent Posts...However, the Government will not give up easily in releasing its grip on the Throats of its Victims, the Private Sector. Hopefully, we can break their Death Grip upon the Nation as a whole with the power of the Vote beginning this November.

Posted by: Daniel on February 15, 2010 02:31 PM
8. And yeah, China is way ahead of us here. The bad news is that their the human rights record is atrocious, but over there, employment is something valued and respected by hard work and merit. You'd think that our politicians could figure out that our current private sector work ethic and worker protections were a good compromise between the atrocious industrial revolution conditions, and today's fat union bums that expect high wages and lifetime employment with pensions for assembly line work.

But no, Democrats are so drunk with power, that they are willing to risk their agenda and the entire economy to stay in bed with unions for the votes. See Obama and Stern. That's not going to last long, which is why I always say that all we have to do is hand out rope to these Progressives. Overreach is in their DNA. They will hang themselves deliberately or accidentally by playing low oxygen sex games that they learned from reading The Stranger.

Posted by: Jeff B. on February 15, 2010 02:33 PM
9. Here is a great read on the looming nightmare of union costs that I found the other day:

The New Math: Union Pensionomics Levies Crushing Debt on State and Local Governments

Posted by: Jeff B. on February 15, 2010 02:39 PM
10. The most efficient way for the State to unburden itself of Crushing Debt is to declare BANKRUPTCY! Upon doing that, all Entitlements, Contracts/Agreements will be Null and Void. Massive Layoffs could be immediately put forward, getting rid of excessive Government employees, unnecessary departments, duplicity and all the staff that goes with them. A reassessment of all Cost and a New beginning with any compensation paid, cannot supersede what is offered in the Private Sector. Plus, any Service that be contracted to the Private Sector, must by Law, be contracted to the Private Sector. That would be a Good Beginning for the recovery of this State plus, enabling the State to give large reductions/relief in Taxes upon the Populace/Taxpayers.

Posted by: Daniel on February 15, 2010 03:17 PM
11. simple folks...vote while we still have the opportunity to replace the false leaders that treat us with contempt. Dean Logan is not around anymore and Garth Fells has someone watching him.
It is also simple if I am running...I will represent you otherwise cast me out...I know my power derives from you and you are not just a 'voter'.

Posted by: Col. Hogan on February 15, 2010 08:59 PM
12. The Seattle Times had a story several months ago about the flood of college students interested in "public service." Story is here .

The UW had a 33% increase in applications for its graduate program in public administration. The kids are no dummies, socialized education notwithstanding.

What this means inevitably is that the most talented and brightest students will go into government rather than become entrepeneurs and inventors.

Posted by: travis t on February 16, 2010 01:07 AM
13. Some of you might be of age where science in school meant real hands on stuff. Like seeing the innards of a real frog?
But do you remember the "Perpetual Machine" theory? A generator hooked up to a motor that in theory should work. However never did.
This is the best example of the government hiring practices we see today.

Posted by: PC on February 16, 2010 07:44 AM
14. I wonder how manny state seats are up for grabs?!I say pink slip folks like lisa Brown and cronnies!My local politicians could use some real support in both the house and Senate (Distr. 31)swimming up stream against these wing nuts can wear on anyone!

Posted by: Laurie on February 16, 2010 09:08 AM
15. @13,
Clearly, politicians have never taken a class in thermodynamics and don't understand the second law of thermodynamics. You never get something for nothing in life. But Democrats are convinced they can tax us to prosperity, and provide pensions and free healthcare to all-comers. Money grows on trees in Obamaland.

Posted by: Jeff B. on February 16, 2010 11:53 AM
16. Bastiat:
Men naturally rebel against the injustice of which they are victims. Thus, when plunder is organized by law for the profit of those who make the law, all the plundered classes try somehow to enter -- by peaceful or revolutionary means -- into the making of laws. According to their degree of enlightenment, these plundered classes may propose one of two entirely different purposes when they attempt to attain political power: Either they may wish to stop lawful plunder, or they may wish to share in it.

Woe to the nation when this latter purpose prevails among the mass victims of lawful plunder when they, in turn, seize the power to make laws! ...

It is impossible to introduce into society a greater change and a greater evil than this: the conversion of the law into an instrument of plunder.


Posted by: pudge on February 16, 2010 04:07 PM
17. From Paul C. Light, NYU, September 2003 paper FACT SHEET ON THE NEW TRUE SIZE OF GOVERNMENT

When these "off-budget" jobs created by contracts and grants jobs are added to the "onbudget" headcount composed of civil service, uniformed military personnel, and postal service jobs, the "true size" of the federal workforce stood at 12.1 million in October, 2002 up from 11 million in October 1999. Although some of the post-1999 growth occurred in the final year of the Clinton administration, most of the 1.1 million new on- and off-budget jobs appear to reflect increased spending since the Bush Administration entered office.

And yet GWB was re-nominated and re-elected in 2004 with a re-elected Republican majority Congress and neither Reason nor any other so-called conservative bloggers thought increasing government headcount by greater than 10% in less than 4 years was such a big deal.

Funny.

Posted by: MikeBoyScout on February 16, 2010 06:40 PM
18. MikeBS,

So I assume you're upset with the growth of the size of Government?

Posted by: Shanghai Dan on February 16, 2010 07:12 PM
19. @18 Shanghai Dan on February 16, 2010 07:12 PM,

No I am not.
The size and cost of any government, service or good is only relevant as it relates to the total cost and benefit equation.

The size of the government shrank in the 90s while our benefits increased.

The size of the government increased significantly in following decade and we failed to win and exit two wars, allowed the banksters to practically destroy the global financial system and wound up in the worst job destroying recession since record keeping began in the 1940s.

The article in Reason attempts to create the notion of some magical government free society in the minds of the Founders. The Founders created the Federal government and its republican representative democracy. The federal government was exponentially larger in 1800 than it was in 1790.

At the present moment our nation does not have a deficit crisis, but a jobs crisis.
If one is interested in spending borrowed dollars (yuan!!) more wisely and more prudently, then stop complaining about arbitrary size and start acting to stop the useless and extremely expensive occupations of Iraq and Afghanistan.

Posted by: MikeBoyScout on February 16, 2010 08:08 PM
20. How about the cost/benefit equation of realigning our entre economy to lower the temperature a couple degrees over half a century? That seems to make perfect sense to people like MikeBS.

Posted by: RWKook on February 16, 2010 09:06 PM
21. @20 That is because Mike BS is blinded by statist ideology and worship of left wing tyranny, besides being economically retarded like our POTUS has shown himself to be. It is a textbook example of the definition of insanity.

Posted by: KDS on February 16, 2010 09:13 PM
22. MikeBS,

Civil servant employment fell, according to your link. Contract employment increased. If the benefit is there, that is the way to get it; contractors can be released a LOT easier than civil servants, and they do not incur the ever-increasing benefits packages we find in direct Government employment.

Basically, you get more bang for your buck with contractors than you do with direct civil servant employees.

As far as the wars, I thought you guys said Afghanistan was the good war, Iraq the bad one? Iraq's been won; you can than Bush for that. Afghanistan is getting worse under Obama's watch, and he's committing more resources and troops to it. So I take it you're pretty upset with the President and his handling of Afghanistan?

Posted by: Shanghai Dan on February 16, 2010 09:27 PM
23. Hi all,

Often liberals simply don't understand conservative arguments. I see this all the time.

But there's one liberal point that many conservatives like Atilla don't seem to understand: The reason for treating terrorists like criminals goes well beyond any case that's at hand. After all, this terrorist is already in custody. The people we want to influence are the hundreds, thousands or even millions of young males around the globe who are contemplating or actively struggling with themselves over the question of whether to become anti-Western terrorists. Think of the effect on their thinking when they hear that we had someone in our custody from their country or religion and "accidentally" tortured them to death, like happened in Kabul for example.

George Washington understood this point and captured British soldiers were so shocked at how well they were treated, they were able be told where to travel to turn themselves in to be incarcerated by the Continentals.

And btw,thanks, Mike BS


Best, new left conservative

Posted by: new left conservative on February 16, 2010 09:56 PM
24. British soldiers were not insane and brutal terrorits, dummy,,, those fanatic,stupid,militant and maniac islamic radicals will be encouraged to join Jihad or Al Qeedah (whatever name?/) because they want to be famous and the recognition by the TV and the media cover of the criminal trial,and the belief that they have a friend in the White House and Democrat

Posted by: tham on February 17, 2010 03:57 AM
25. British soldiers were not insane and brutal terrorits, dummy,,, those fanatic,stupid,militant and maniac islamic radicals will be encouraged to join Jihad or Al Qeedah (whatever name?/) because they want to be famous and the recognition by the TV and the media cover of the criminal trial,and the belief that they have a friend in the White House and Democrat

Posted by: tham on February 17, 2010 03:59 AM
26. Greatings, No estб seguro de que esto es verdad:), pero gracias a un cargo.

Doggy

Posted by:
Doggy on February 17, 2010 06:49 AM
27. Hey Tham,

The enemy your fighting today is always meaner than the one you fought yesterday and whose accent you now find charming.

Don't you notice there are hundreds of millions of Moslems over there that go about their day-to-day lives without ever joining Al Queda? Most of these folks seriously dislike US mideast policy but they hold more sophisticated opinions about the world and the use of violence than Osama Bin Laden. And they pay attention to the way Moslems get treated in this country.

The most brutal side doesn't always win, long term, a point that paleo-conservatives sometimes fail to understand.

new left conservative

Posted by: new left conservative on February 17, 2010 10:10 AM
28. Here's an example of the absurdity that BO is capable of showing, re: Stimulus (source:Powerline);

"On the stimulus's first anniversary, keep in mind one number: 6.3 million.

That is the Obama jobs gap -- the difference between the 3.3 million net jobs President Obama said would be created (not just saved) and the 3 million additional net jobs that have since been lost.

By the president's own logic, the stimulus failed. So Obama has shifted his argument. Sure, the economy lost jobs, he now says, but without the stimulus it would have lost nearly 2 million more jobs.

This "it would have been worse" theory is completely unprovable. No one knows how the economy would have performed without the stimulus.

Furthermore, it's faith-based economics. The White House's new estimates of "saving" nearly 2 million jobs are not based on observations of the economy's recent performance. Rather, they are based on the Obama administration's unshakable belief that deficit spending must create jobs and growth. Specifically, the White House's "proof" that the stimulus created jobs is an economic model that they programmed to assume that stimulus spending automatically creates jobs.

How's that for circular logic?

The idea that government spending creates jobs makes sense only if you never ask where the government got the money."

This falls right in with the road to serfdom. The real war is the middle class vs. the Federal Government - who are robbing from the middle class to give to the rich corporations, not the taking from the rich to give to the poor.

Posted by: KDS on February 17, 2010 10:00 PM
29. Bastiat and the Parable of the Broken Window.

Posted by: Shanghai Dan on February 18, 2010 08:10 AM
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