March 01, 2010
Gregoire and the Democrats' elimination of I-960 stinks - here's how I expressed that

I've attended several public bill signings. What normally happens is the legislators and lobbyists who pushed the bill stand beside the Governor, get their photo taken, and receive a Governor's pen. Since it is a public bill signing in a public building, anyone can attend. So when it comes to Gregoire and the Democrats' elimination of I-960, I felt it important to go and speak out against what they did.

So I went (clean-shaven, suit and tie). I was the first of the 'regular people' escorted into the Governor's conference room for the bill signing -- I walked up to Gregoire who asked me "So Tim, are you standing with me on this?"

"Actually, I'm standing opposite you on this, actually," I replied.

No legislator or lobbyist wanted to be anywhere near the Governor as she took away I-960. I stood next to her as she signed the bill, holding my nose with one hand, going thumbs down with the other for the official photo, and got a pen (which I've been using to collect signatures for this year's Initiative 1053).

Here's KIRO's photo and KOMO's photo.

Some found it offensive, others funny, some heroic. To me, it was just my way to peacefully protest an enormous injustice. It also gave me an opportunity to counter Gregoire's statements and speak out. As you can imagine, feedback almost perfectly matches KING 5's polling results -- the 24% who think the Democrats were right to suspend I-960 are outraged by my protest, the 68% who oppose the Democrats' suspension of I-960 are supportive or OK with my protest, but most people rightly don't care one way or the other. After all, my disrespect for the Governor won't cost taxpayers anything -- whereas Gregoire's disrespect for the voters by overturning voter-approved I-960 will cost taxpayers billions of dollars in higher taxes.

For your own financial safety, as well as everyone else's, please help us bring back I-960's protections by getting this year's Initiative 1053 on the ballot. We need 300,000 signatures by July 2nd -- that works out to be over 2000 signatures PER DAY, a huge challenge.

Go to our website and help.

Posted by Tim Eyman at March 01, 2010 12:50 PM | Email This
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1. If only we could vote on ending your embarrassing self-promoting antics. (holding nose, thumbs down)

Posted by: LaborGoon on March 1, 2010 01:03 PM
2. #1. What's stopping you?

Maybe you can tell me, because nobody else is able. What percentage should I pay in taxes?

Thanks.


Posted by: Gary on March 1, 2010 01:21 PM
3. From the photo, I thought perhaps Gregoire farted or something.

Posted by: Mr. Cynical on March 1, 2010 01:46 PM
4. I hope these pictures are all over town this year!

Posted by: Jonathan Gardner on March 1, 2010 01:52 PM
5. Even more proof that Tim Eyeman has nothing better to do and isn't offering positive solutions for these budget deficits.

Posted by: Tyler on March 1, 2010 01:55 PM
6. Tyler, maybe you know the answer to my question.

Posted by: Gary on March 1, 2010 02:06 PM
7. Labor goon and Tyler both seem to have the belief that the Dems should tax at will. Are they willing to give all their pay to the gov to pay for programs?

Posted by: MIKE336 on March 1, 2010 02:09 PM
8. MIKE336, Dems don't pay taxes. Just look at the President's cabinet.

Posted by: Gary on March 1, 2010 02:17 PM
9. Even more proof that Tim Eyeman has nothing better to do and isn't offering positive solutions for these budget deficits. - Tyler

You know, I'm about fed up with you liberals demanding we conservatives come up with solutions to the mess you made.

We told you the budgets weren't sustainable. Yet, you passed them.

We told you a downturn would eventually happen and a 33-percent increase in spending wasn't fiscally responsible. Yet, you passed the budgets doing just that.

Now we're not supposed to criticize your irresponsibility? We're supposed to help fix something we told you not to do?

Nope. You made the mess. You clean it up. All by yourselves.

Posted by: jimg on March 1, 2010 02:38 PM
10. Yeah, jimg, and when our healthcare system looks like Great Britain's a few years from now, Tyler will be demanding to know how Republicans plan to fix it.

Posted by: Gary on March 1, 2010 02:43 PM
11. There is evidence all around us that people care a heck of a lot more about the Legislature "defying the will of the people" on education funding (class sizes and teacher pay) than they do about the minority rules provisions of I-960. That's probably a big reason why school M&O levies passed in EVERY SINGLE DISTRICT IN THE STATE. Has that ever happened? Ever? What's changed this year? Times are tough and people see/feel the cuts, that's what's changed.

If people are sick of being taxed to death as you folks in the choir keep preaching to each other, why did they just vote to maintain or increase those taxes, from Aberdeen to Zillah. And yes in Mukilteo, too, Tim! (I think the reason you are holding your nose is because you're trying to block the smile on your face from the money you'll personally make from Initiatives 'R' You.)

I'll tell you why: because the question was "Will you spend X to get Y." When people see what specifically they are getting for their tax dollars, they are willing (within reason) to pay.

But when demagogues decry "Big Government" and cite selective annoying budget items like public art, it's pretty easy to rile up the troops/teabaggers. Just like it's easy to convert people into state employee haters when they forget that those state employees are the nurses, fire fighters, corrections officers and other friends from their neighborhoods.

Posted by: LaborGoon on March 1, 2010 03:09 PM
12. LaborGoon. Can you answer my question?

Posted by: Gary on March 1, 2010 03:21 PM
13. Oh, by the way... I-960 does not prohibit the state from raising taxes.


Posted by: Gary on March 1, 2010 03:22 PM
14. We need to do something to stop the bleeding. Our tax evaluation went dowjn 3-4K this year, but the tax payment statement came today: Total property tax amount $10,043.++ which is about an $800 increase. What am I getting for this? Please, somebody tell me.

I have spent the winter in AZ, and the property taxes there on my home would be about 25% of what I pay in Washington. We are seriously thinking of putting into motion a relocation, which of course, includes our two businesses.

Posted by: Rae on March 1, 2010 03:24 PM
15. Rae, so they raise your taxes, and force you to move, thus they won't get the increase and they also won't get the amount they were getting before. So it will result in *negative* revenue.

And yet they wonder why raising taxes often means less revenue.

Posted by: Gary on March 1, 2010 03:30 PM
16. 9 - Excellent, Jimg. Well put.

Posted by: Matt M on March 1, 2010 03:51 PM
17. Don't worry, "LaborGoon" (who is someone who posts here frequently hiding behind a new anonymous handle) will find out this November what Americans now think of unions and continuous government spending increases with little to show in return.

Here is Bloomberg with a report today on Unions stunned by losses. Private sector unions continue to decline because Americans have figured out that if they want jobs and successful businesses in their state, they need open shops so they can do away with union leadership that long ago gave up the cause of workers rights, and instead are interested in getting in bed with Democrats and enhancing the fat cat lifestyles of their leadership.

Soon, Americans will wake up on public sector unions as well. Because with all of the regulations inherent in government, why can't the government simply police itself and do away with the massive overhead of unsustainable union benefits?

Unions were to protect us from allegedly greedy corporations, but now all of the greed is in government. But we've never seen anything in a corporation like the greed of Gregoire and Obama.

Unions are now about protecting government, and the average working Joe American is figuring this out and rejecting the high priced bloat that is moving jobs overseas or out of the bankrupt, high-cost-of-living, highly unionized Blue States. Of which, WA is one.

Posted by: Jeff B. on March 1, 2010 03:54 PM
18. Jeff, 100% correct, and as we can see with Obamacare, supporters of Obama get political favors, such as unions not having to pay the same tax as others with the same "Cadillac" plans, etc.

Posted by: Gary on March 1, 2010 04:09 PM
19. Gary @ 15: Correct. And although we have two businesses, they are small ones. My husband is on a fixed income (retired in 2007) and at 61 I absolutely REFUSE to continue working till I fall over at a very stressful and physical job (RN) just to have every penny over to the goons in Olympia (and Pierce County.)

Posted by: Rae on March 1, 2010 04:23 PM
20. How much money does the Dept of Ecology take from us for the purpose of controlling the earth's climate?

Posted by: Gary on March 1, 2010 04:32 PM
21. So...where is this "every penny" you speak of? We have LOW taxes here in Washington. No income tax, average property tax, and only slightly higher sales tax. Compared to Oregon (up to 9% income tax..gack!), CA (Income AND sales tax), or most states, we're in good shape!

Posted by: Proteus on March 1, 2010 04:56 PM
22. You consider $10K+ a year on property tax Moderate? Really?

Sales tax where am is now 9.5%. My nursing license fee went up from 50 to 70 bucks last year.
It's called a fee but it is really just another tax and that went up 40%. Pretty steep increase, if you ask me.

And since we live on the West side, even though we get very little benefit from Sound Transit, we still have to help pay for all the ineptitude of that whole debacle.

Again I say, what am I getting for my 10K, and on a property that has decreased in value at that?

Posted by: Rae on March 1, 2010 05:01 PM
23. @11 LaborGoon: You got the answer to your rhetorical question half-correct.

In part it is because in the case of those levies they are told very clearly "If you pay X you'll get Y."

What you left off is the fact that "Y" in the case of your examples just happen to be things that our cynical politicians know in advance most voters actually want and/or need.

If you ask me, requiring a high level of support for tax increases and enforcing some transparency seems like it would help to foster a more informed electorate. The problem here is that tax-and-spend junkies don't *want* the taxpayers to know what "Y" they're spending "X" on.

By your own example, the argument that "oh, we can't let voters have a say in taxation! They'll always vote against taxes!" is proven absurd. If voters see government spending (nay, MANAGING) money responsibly, and providing a useful service (recall, government is supposed to SERVE us, not the opposite), they are much more likely to support or even directly approve taxes.

Posted by: RookieRick on March 1, 2010 07:00 PM
24. Alot of us feel the same you do Tim!! PU this stinks!If I-1053 comes to my Walyworld I'm signing it!!

Posted by: Laurie on March 1, 2010 07:31 PM
25. It seems obvious that both "Laborgoon" and "Tyler" have way more money than they know what to do with. Hence my proposal to put a tax on Democrat politicians and Union Bosses. They like higher taxes, so I'm sure they'll support the idea, too.

Posted by: pyotr on March 1, 2010 11:23 PM
26. Oly may be surprised how much of a price they pay for overturning 960. It's just like when they went ahead with Safeco Field after voters rejected it. The fact that the Sonics wound up leaving w/out a stadium tells me that Oly was afraid to touch that stove again.

Hopefully a similar effect will occur over I-960. God knows Oly could use some shaking-up.

Posted by: travis t on March 2, 2010 02:35 AM
27. Labor Good @ #1, #11; Re Gary #2 & #12: Yeah, Labor Goon, why not answer Gary's question? A simple percentage will do. You can do that can't you buddy? You sure can flap your jaws about how people love taxes, so you seem to be tapped into the pulse of the tax payer. So what is it LG? 25% of income? 50%? 70%? What? Please express your figure less taxes on income.

Jeff B @ #17: Excellent synopsis of what is on the horizon for unions both in the public and private sector. And your comment: "But we've never seen anything in a corporation like the greed of Gregoire and Obama." couldn't be more right-on. There is a large seething undercurrent against government now that the statist liberals are completely misreading, unaware of or they are just whistling past the graveyard hoping it will go away.

Posted by: G Jiggy on March 2, 2010 10:27 AM
28. We put our place up for sale last week. We are not putting up with it anymore... we are heading to a "free-er state", where jobs are plentiful and crime is super low.

Posted by: John on March 2, 2010 12:27 PM
29. John @28

Good luck to you and yours.

Posted by: David on March 2, 2010 03:23 PM
30. I second that John I'm remaining here to watch over my home and heal my damaged tendon while my spouse takes a temp job in Texas to support us.Expressing the same frustrations.I'll visit him when this ankle heals some more!I also donated to The Tim talked about the pprocess is pretty smooth thankfuly.GO TIM!!

Posted by: Laurie on March 2, 2010 06:48 PM
31. "If only we could vote on ending your embarrassing self-promoting antics."

I'm sure it would be as effective as the 960 vote: set aside as an inconvenience.

Posted by: tehag on March 3, 2010 05:54 AM
32. So where can we sign I1053 in Pierce County? Anyone know the locations?

MESSAGE FROM EYMAN: the easiest way is for anyone who wants to sign to contact us -- 425-493-8707 or jakatak@comcast.net -- and request a petition. that way, you can sign, family members can sign, co-workers can sign, employees can sign, and then mail it back to us. OK?

Posted by: katomar on March 3, 2010 07:08 AM
33. repeat

Posted by: Rob on March 3, 2010 07:40 PM
34. I'm always amazed when the Libs/Dems say that the Repubs and the Tea party people don't ever want to pay taxes. I have absolutely no issue with paying taxes but I want to SEE HOW my money is being spent and on WHAT. How come it became a bad thing to remind the voting public that these politicians work for US? I want accountability, I want performance audits so we can find out how the money is spent and see if a tax increase is actually necessary. As government grows, there are more and more gov workers that only care about themselves and their jobs. The last thing they want is the public to be informed.
So many public sector employees and Union workers have been sheltered from the "real working world" that they don't have a clue what to do by themselves without "Daddy Government" and Union protection to keep the unemployable employed.

Posted by: Rob on March 3, 2010 07:47 PM
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