March 28, 2010
When The Big One Hits Seattle . . .

Many new buildings in Seattle will fail.   That's what the head of an earthquake consulting firm, Peter Yanev, concludes, after studying the damage from the February earthquake in Chile.

We engineers and seismologists need to gather and study as much data as we can from Chile's quake.  But one thing is already clear: based on the kind of damage that buildings suffered in Chile, tall structures in the earthquake zones of the United States appear to be at much higher risk than we thought.  This lesson should be of obvious concern to San Francisco and Los Angeles.  But it is actually the Pacific Northwest that is most vulnerable to a mega-quake like Chile's.
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Construction codes are based on the probability of earthquakes striking a region.  That means Seattle's buildings, for example, are designed for roughly half of the earthquake loads of buildings in San Francisco or Los Angeles, because earthquakes occur roughly half as often in Seattle as in California's cities.  But the result is that Pacific Northwest cities are full of buildings with slender structural frames and fewer and smaller shear walls.  In a mega-quake, many of the region's iconic tall buildings would probably collapse.  The loss of life and property from such a disaster would be far worse than the damage and death suffered in Chile.

Geologists believe — with good reason, as far as I can tell — that a mega-quake is inevitable in this area.  Probably not soon, probably not even in my lifetime.  But it will happen.

Cross posted at Jim Miller on Politics.

(More on the Cascadia fault here.)

Posted by Jim Miller at March 28, 2010 10:01 AM | Email This
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1. It's amazing that with real future problems like earthquakes and volcano eruptions, that are based on sound science, all we hear about are non-problems like Global Warming which is based on shoddy or no science.

Posted by: Jeff B. on March 28, 2010 10:35 AM
2. Yeah, Jeff B...There are all kinds of Scams out there. Like the Viaduct is supposed to be falling apart and needs to be shut down so the Taxpayers will be more than willing to support the extremely Expensive Tunnel Project. Well, far greater Deaths will occur if an earthquake caused Tunnel Collapse happens as opposed to a shaky Viaduct.

Posted by: Daniel on March 28, 2010 11:12 AM
3. That, and people choose whether or not to drive on the Viaduct.

If this report is true, I'd guess that upgrading the buildings downtown should be more of a priority than replacing the Viaduct. But I have a feeling that the massively expensive tunnel project is more of a way of punishing people for insisting on driving cars than anything else. The hostility of Seattle to automobiles and people living in the suburbs generally is the biggest reason I avoid spending my money there.

Posted by: jvon on March 28, 2010 11:49 AM
4. If this is what it takes to get Seattle liberals to move to San Franthithco where they belong, then I'm all for it.

Posted by: Matt M on March 28, 2010 11:49 AM
5. Most think that we are "earthquake proofing" infrastructure but infrastructure can't be "earthquake proofed", it can only be made to have less damage. So, the question is, how far should we go at what cost? If we get to wacky about "earthquake proofing" we'll just spend a ton, making building prohibitively expensive, on buildings that only come down half way but will have to be demolished anyway.

The solution is to legislate practical, cost effective things. But the big problem is we don't have any practical legislators or bureaucrats any more. They are so divorced from reality that whatever they do will be obsessive and expensive for little gain. Just like they always do.

Posted by: G Jiggy on March 28, 2010 11:55 AM
6. @2 Daniel
I'm not worried about a tunnel collapse, or a tsunami per se, as much as Elliot Bay water somehow flooding into the tunnel. Either way, the tunnel idea is an abortion of common sense on so many levels. Do a Google Images search of "Seattle fault" and you'll see that it's within probably a mile of Downtown. Smart, huh. All I know is that the tunnel elevation will be lower than sea level. Remember New Orleans, anyone? Maybe Mike McGinn doesn't like white people.

Posted by: Matt M on March 28, 2010 12:02 PM
7. Your Right!..Matt M...It would be expected that along with the collapse, there would be the loss of water tight integrity which would allow the incursion of Seawater to rush in and fill whatever voids that might be left after the collapse. Death in the effective area would be most complete. There would be little to no rescue success just, recovery of the Dead.

Posted by: Daniel on March 28, 2010 02:27 PM
8. Since government regulations and interference in private industry are bad, I think we should get Rob McKenna to file a lawsuit to overturn unreasonable building codes. They interfere with free enterprise, and people have a choice to enter a certain building. Liberty is all or nothing!

Posted by: Joe Szilagyi on March 28, 2010 03:08 PM
9. If this report is true, I'd guess that upgrading the buildings downtown should be more of a priority than replacing the Viaduct.

Upgrading downtown buildings, against the Richter-9 quakes that hit Seattle every thousand years or so, has been in continuous progress at least since the early 80s. And of course the building permits that enable renovations require just that sort of upgrade as well. The only way the Viaduct escapes is that its owner, WSDOT, is not subject to the 'fix it or no occupancy permit' overlords of Seattle - and even the Viaduct has had periodic upgrades as well.

And I too have a feeling that the massively expensive tunnel project is more of a way of punishing people for insisting on driving cars than anything else. Just fix the viaduct to Richter-9 standards, and admit that its traffic is of tremendous civic and economic value to both its participants, and to those who receive goods and services directly from that traffic.

Posted by: Insufficiently Sensitive on March 28, 2010 03:26 PM
10. Marx-Libs apparently feel building codes in support of seismic reinforcement are "unreasonable".

I vote for commie joe, mike the park restroom boy scout, tensor, the Seattle Times editorial board, the headquarters for The Stranger, the Democrat Party of Washington State, Freeway Hall, Seattle Radical Women and NAMBLA to all relocate their collective sorry behinds into an unreinforced brick masonry building in Pioneer Square. At least if the "big one" hits, there will then be a silver lining.

Posted by: Attila on March 28, 2010 03:46 PM
11. Jiggy wrote:

The solution is to legislate practical, cost effective things.

Having lived in Chile, and lived through a few Earthquakes (but none of the magnitude that hit Concepcion), I can tell you the way to survive is to have very few tall buildings - to use short buildings, and spread them out.

Exactly the OPPOSITE of what the GMA forces on us. Our legislation and regulation drives the kind of development that will fail at much higher rates when the big one hits.

But the big problem is we don't have any practical legislators or bureaucrats any more.

Sad but true, sad but true...

Posted by: Shanghai Dan on March 28, 2010 05:48 PM
12. When they fall at least they wont be full of people since some are 60% vacant currently. Seattle prices business out of downtown and SAVES LIVES!!!

Posted by: Marmstro on March 28, 2010 10:14 PM
13. Yeah! I mean if it weren't for commie joe, mike the park restroom boy scout, tensor, the Seattle Times editorial board, The Stranger, the Democrat Party of Washington State, Freeway Hall, Seattle Radical Women and NAMBLA, we wouldn't have earthquakes!

Posted by: REAGAN4EVR on March 29, 2010 08:15 PM
14. Seattle, like Sodom & Gomorrah will fall sooner or later from the weight of its own immorality. People of FAITH AND RIGHTEOUSNESS SHOULD STAY CLEAR.

Posted by: murk on March 29, 2010 08:26 PM
15. When I worked for the State of Washington more than 15 years ago, we had a meeting where information was presented that we were already long overdue for a major quake, and that areas that had been filled in, like Downtown Olympia (or the Kingdome area), were subject to liquefaction... if we have a major quake in our lifetime, it will not be pretty- don't kid yourself.

Posted by: Beatnik on March 30, 2010 08:29 AM
16. Amen murk! His human-like hatred for the gays will be revealed to us by causing an earthquake by way of a sword shooting out of his mouth!

Posted by: REAGAN4EVR on March 30, 2010 07:01 PM
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