August 17, 2010
Mail Ballot Horror Show (XLIV)

We celebrate today's mail-only primary with some more items on the beauty and majesty of mail-only voting. As Jim notes below, King County has removed the signature security flap from the outer ballot envelope to "save money".

If the idea is to save money, they should go back to polling places. Sam Reed predicts that only 38% of the state's voters will vote this primary, meaning that the remaining 62% of 3.59 million registered voters will toss their ballots into the recycling. 2.2 million packets of wasted paper, ink, glue and outbound postage must cost a horrendous amount of money, with or without the extra flap.

Meanwhile, over in Mason County 114 voters opened up their ballot packets to discover they were missing the actual ballots.

And in Snohomish County, 1,278 ballots were not mailed out to voters until yesterday.

Yes, yes, I know. It's only a 1,400 voters out of 3.6 million. An accuracy rate that any bank would envy!

Posted by Stefan Sharkansky at August 17, 2010 02:28 PM | Email This
1. OH BOY! we go again. Hang on Dino! :)

Posted by: Duffman on August 17, 2010 01:50 PM
2. That's odd. My ballot had a signature flap on the outer envelope. What mine lacked was an inner security envelope. I put it in a regular white envelope and sealed it for a security envelope.

Posted by: RBW on August 17, 2010 04:48 PM
3. Huh... that's weird. I got three ballots in mine.

Posted by: Spunky on August 17, 2010 05:13 PM
4. Two family members got two ballots---ballots for our old address in the 5th, (which had been forwarded--ha!), and ones addressed to the current address in the 45th. We had correctly filed address changes by the appropriate dates. Had these family members been less honest what do you want to bet they could have voted twice and somehow would have gotten away with it---but only if KCE employees could see that they voted for liberals, I'm sure. Fortunately for the people, these family members are too honest to even consider such.

Posted by: Michele on August 17, 2010 05:45 PM
5. What I find interesting is that Obama came in with a boom to campaign for Murray on "voting day" when there isn't an open "polling place" in the entire state. I realize people tend to procrastinate but c'mon, how many people were sitting at home staring at their ballot trying to make up their mind and thought, "oh, look, the President is here for Patty - I'm gonna vote for her". Seems to me that appearance would have been more valuable a few weeks ago.

Posted by: D Doyle on August 17, 2010 06:02 PM
6. What is the situation with mailing ballots to our military members? Did Eric Holder give Washington a waiver so that these did not have to be mailed out in time?

Posted by: MRH on August 17, 2010 06:18 PM
7. D Doyle: Plenty of open polling places in Pierce County. Went to one myself. I will keep on going to the polling place to vote until they force me to use mail ballot. Unfortunately, it's just a matter of time.

Posted by: katomar on August 17, 2010 06:56 PM
8. Spunky says, "I got three ballots in mine"

Let me're a King County Democrat....

Posted by: Saltherring on August 17, 2010 07:48 PM
9. Dammit Shark!

I told you to lay OFF the ballot stuffing this time...but you did it anyway! And now look, I'm gonna lose the 3rd election in a row!

People are going to get tired of your stuffing shenanigans, but then it affects me...maybe Beck had it right..."Ohhh, Rossi boy! You're a loser baby, so why don't you kill me."

Now I'm really depressed. 3rd election loss AND losing my speaking gig.

Posted by: rossi too on August 17, 2010 07:58 PM
10. Same thing again, voter fraud, nothing new here.

Posted by: Harry on August 17, 2010 08:39 PM
11. Folks I am not gonna make it this time. The Democrats are finally killing me off. Well it was nice while it lasted. Your new master, the dictator Obama will take over now.

May your chains bear lightly.

Posted by: Democracy on August 17, 2010 08:54 PM
12. Sharkansky doesn't know what he is talking about. I and all my ghoulies in the cemetary got our ballots in plenty of time to vote. Our helpful Democrat Paty apparatchiks made sure of that.

Go Patty Go! Yayyyyyyyyyyyyy Democrats!

Even a stiff like me knows how to vote Democrat.

Posted by: Dead Voter on August 17, 2010 08:57 PM
13. Re the elections results: Keep an eye on the 3rd Congressional district. That one could flip to republican this year. And in the 45th Leg. district, there are a couple seats that look like they could flip to republican. Yahoo! Let's hope Oemig is out. He's looking the most vulnerable. and Reichert looks very strong in the 8th.

Posted by: Michele on August 17, 2010 08:58 PM
14. yea--i'm back to preferring the in-person voting with CHECKING your i.d.--sure, I was lured into the convenient mail-in, but my own readings & research now suggest not; hey--if you can't get in off your dead arse and vote, then why should YOU determine MY life & freedoms!? you have time to get a latte? rent a stupid movie? get a fast food drive-thru dinner? car wash? and ALL of those check your i.d. & money instantly & better than ANY voting place! go figure...

Posted by: jimmie howya-doin on August 17, 2010 09:41 PM
15. Here's a good piece of news for everyone: Rep. Geoff Simpson is having quite a weak showing in the primary. He's very vulnerable for the general. Watch for that one to flip republican, as well.

Posted by: Michele on August 17, 2010 11:01 PM
16. Geoff the Wife beater does not deserve a seat in any public forum

Posted by: GS on August 17, 2010 11:51 PM
17. There's also an open polling place in Snohomish County. One: the Auditor's Office, where I voted at 7 a.m., sharp.

Posted by: pudge on August 17, 2010 11:55 PM
18. Went and voted at community hall near house at 9 a.m. lets see if we can rid ourselves of Porky Patty.

Posted by: Laurie on August 18, 2010 06:46 AM
19. Aren't Dems usually running the elections? Just a questions. Been known to be wrong.

Posted by: TACOMABLIZZARD on August 18, 2010 06:49 AM
20. I wrote about this last election, but don't remember the advice I got so I'll ask again.

I've owned a house in Reicherts district for more than a dozen years now. Every election I got sent ballots to the attention of the last owners of the home (Boeing union members) and every year I told the elections dept that they are not longer at this address. One of the names was eventually scrubbed, but the other ballot continues to come.

What advice do you have to help me document this issue? Is there any way to see if the name of this person shows up as a voter? (She moved to Missouri so she shouldn't be voting here.)

Posted by: johnny on August 18, 2010 07:05 AM
21. I'm old school. Back in the day you went to a neighbors house who had a sign in the window that she was a voter registrar. She checked out your THREE pieces of ID and registered you to vote. Then you went to the polling place and you couldn't vote unless you had that voter registration card and your signature on the card matched your sign-in signature.

Posted by: linda on August 18, 2010 07:11 AM
22. #27 'Old school' indeed. Now, you needn't 'document' ANYthing; including proving your eligibility for running for POTUS. How silly of you. :)

Posted by: Duffman on August 18, 2010 07:18 AM
23. johnny, there obviously is a way. A newspaper here ran a huge front page article complaining about a city councilman who did not vote in an election where the emergency levy failed by one vote. Obviously, they must have found that information out some how. Yes, even though we have a secret ballot right, evidently we don't have a right to keep whether or not we voted secret.

Some day, I'd like to see that in court - possibly in an election that has to be validated like a school levy. In those cases there has to be a certain number of people voting in order for the measure to pass, you could easily argue that a 'vote' to abstain should be secret because it could be an attempt to get the levy not to pass.

Posted by: Doug on August 18, 2010 07:20 AM
24. @ 23: "Obviously, they must have found that information out some how?" Take a civics lesson, will you? WHETHER you vote -- not HOW you vote -- has ALWAYS been public information.

Posted by: ivan on August 18, 2010 08:03 AM
25. Ivan, and I take issue with that - specifically in regards to voting on an issue that needs to be validated. I would like to see the courts have an opportunity to rule on whether you voted or not in an election that needs validated should be considered on par with on whether your actual vote should be secret.

It is in those limited instances that by not voting you can have more power to vote down a measure than if you actually did vote. Obviously, those elections are far different than the normal run of the mill office filling elections.

Posted by: Doug on August 18, 2010 08:55 AM
26. And my husband continues to get a ballot (which started after he registerd to have his driver license renewed online) even though he is NOT a US citizen. I save them so that I have something to show when the ugly "voter fraud" thing raises its head again.

Posted by: Cindy on August 18, 2010 10:05 AM
27. So Ivan,

I know you're very active in the democratic party so obviously you know how to get bad ballots off the rolls.

Would you be willing to share with Cindy and I what steps we should take? Or would that go against the grand old tradition of democrats encouraging sloppy voter rolls so they can count on the votes of the dead and moved away?

Posted by: johnny on August 18, 2010 10:11 AM
28. Yeah, it's part of partisanship that members of one party always accuse members of the other party of dirty tricks.

If it's King County, call King County Elections, explain the problem, and ask for help. If it's any other county, call the county auditor's office.

Nobody wants ineligible voters to be receiving ballots. Not you, not me. OK?

Posted by: ivan on August 18, 2010 04:43 PM
29. Per Doug Parris over at The Reagan Wing, the likely fraud you suspect is the result of Republican driven change.
We once had a system in Washington State that met the above criteria. It was HIGHLY RESISTANT to fraud. It was replaced (at the behest of the Evans/Gorton/Mainstream Republicans of Washington wing of the Republican Party) ...

Posted by: MikeBoyScout on August 18, 2010 05:34 PM
30. I'm overseas right now, but am registered in Island County. I got my absentee ballot late in July.
I'm not the usual case, though. I actually recieved an in person response from the Island County Auditor when I went to set up my absentee ballot before I transferred out of state.

Posted by: Mark on August 18, 2010 07:19 PM
31. not that their opinions matter, but have the media ever done a recent (balanced) spread why the turnout is always so shamefully low? 30% or so? why isn't it 90%? apathy? ignorance of what few rights we have as they get whittled down? distrust? people sure whine a lot but never turn that whine into a 90% turnout--no matter who wins; guess things have to really go south to no return before anyone will care...

Posted by: jimmie howya-doin on August 18, 2010 07:26 PM
32. If Obama had showed up here before people sent in their ballots Patty Murray may have lost in the primary. Candidates that he "helps" usually end up losing their elections. It has gotten so bad that dem pols don't want to be seen with him, even those in Chicago.

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