September 09, 2010
Congress closes another factory and sends jobs overseas

Congress caused a factory to close this month and the jobs to go overseas.

GE has a factory in Winchester, VA, that makes incandescent light bulbs. Does until the end of September. Then it will close due to an act of Congress and 200 people will see their jobs shipped overseas.

In 2007 Congress made the big decision for you*. Instead of each of us making the decision to save money by consuming less electricity for lighting, Big Brother took away our choice. They outlawed the incandescent light bulb invented by Thomas Edison in the 1870s. Now we all have to buy the CFL bulbs that are all made overseas or find another alternative.

And CFLs are hazardous; they contain mercury, which is toxic. Keep them out of the house. No, can't - act of Congress.

Ask Congressmen running for reelection why sent these jobs overseas. And why they require us to use hazardous lighting in our homes.

Washington Post

* HR 6: Energy Independence and Security Act of 2007 Technicality: This law does not outlaw incandescent bulbs, but puts in place standards that don't allow their use.

Posted by Ron Hebron at September 09, 2010 07:42 AM | Email This
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1. Next time we go to war, instead of bombs and bullets, lets just parachute in environmentalists, democratic congresspersons, and union organizers.

The effects of the action will not be as immediate, but the long term negative impact for the enemy will be catastrophic.

Posted by: Johnny on September 9, 2010 08:47 AM
2. So Sen. Murray votes to shut down US factories and move jobs overseas, not Dino?
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/vote.xpd?vote=s2007-226

Johnny, can we add lawyers to your list?

Posted by: TP Dave on September 9, 2010 10:17 AM
3. I've been using CFL's since the early 1990's. Personally, I think they are a smart move because they save (me) a lot of money in electricity. But, somethings are not ideal with CFL's. Whereas your only saving grace will be the new LED bulbs - that tip the scales at $25 a bulb... OUCH! Whenever government touches an industry it ultimately costs jobs.

Posted by: John on September 9, 2010 10:51 AM
4. Oh, you proles!

We do these things for your own good. We big brains here in the Mother Ship have this stuff all figured out.

Quit your whining and go out and buy some milk with your food stamps.

Like our Dear Leader says: "They should be thanking us"

Posted by: Alan Davidson on September 9, 2010 11:25 AM
5. @1: You forgot feminists. They definitely would need to be dropped in with the bunch. And, of course, community organizers such as ACORN. The cumulative and collective damage would be irreparable, with the enemy begging for mercy!

Posted by: katomar on September 9, 2010 11:35 AM
6. Also too one can't find many blacksmiths to make horseshoes.

"Technicality: This law does not outlaw incandescent bulbs, but puts in place standards that don't allow their use."

Go Galt! Open your own incandescent light bulb factory and show dem Big Guberment idiots a thing or two.

Cripes! Do you really think GE is closing the factory primarily because of a regulation?

Posted by: MikeBoyScout on September 9, 2010 11:47 AM
7. The secret of CFL bulbs is that they require much more energy to produce than an incandescent bulb. In studies that claim carbon savings, there is no mention of these manufacturing costs, nor the disposal consequences and costs because of the mercury they contain. Instead studies focus only on the energy saved. Saving energy is great, but not when it is thrust upon the market with mandates vs. allowing the market to create a long term solution. LED bulbs are expensive, but coming down in price and much more efficient and cost effective than CFLs in the long term. There are now excellent blended color LED bulbs that provide a beautiful warm light similar to incandescents but with even more energy savings and life than the CFL bulbs. And without mercury and for the most part any long term impact on disposal costs because they last so long.

And of course no one ever mentions Halogen bulbs which are even less efficient than a typical incandescent, quite popular and in widespread production.

It's like Hybrid vehicles. Thrust upon the market as an eco-solution, but net not saving much due to all of the manufacturing costs and extra shipping costs associated with the batteries and dual drive systems and their more lengthy bills of materials. In the end, a ULEV vehicle with a conventional combustion engine is a much better buy, and much better for the environment than a hybrid.

But there's money to be made in eco-religion, so we have CFLs and Priuses.

Posted by: Jeff B. on September 9, 2010 12:06 PM
8. For those interested, here are some way better LED solutions.

Last year I replaced a PAR reflector can incandescent with a CFL reflector bulb in a can package. The bulb's drive electronics failed in less than one year due to incompatibility with the other incandescent bulbs on the same lighting string. (I know this because I have an EE degree.) That CFL bulb cost about $12. For just about double that price, I now have an LED bulb in place and the lifetime is 50,000 hours vs. the alleged 6,000 hours of the CFL bulb. The other problem with CFL bulbs is that the drive electronics are prone to failure. Aside from the much longer life of the LEDs themselves, there is much less complication with LED drive circuitry, therefore much less failure.

If the market had made the determination for when to transition away from incandescent bulbs instead of eco-crats, CFL bulbs never would have seen the uh, light of day.

Posted by: Jeff B. on September 9, 2010 12:55 PM
9. I bought 5 cases last year enough to last me 30 years ...screw those toxic mercury laced eco-nazi bulbs

Posted by: hellpig on September 9, 2010 03:31 PM
10. Mikeboyscout-
You say that like it would be hard to believe that businesses don't close their doors rather than deal with new mandates.

One of my customers watched about 14% of all the gas station/convenience stores in California close down for good a few years ago based on new environmental mandates. (The stores - of course - had the option of spending six figures per location to update their stores, but it just couldn't pencil out.)

These weren't big Oil Company owned stores either - the big guys could afford the upgrades. These were several hundred small businesspeople most of home one or two stations in smaller towns. (Some of which ended up without a gas stations at all after the closures.)

In this particular story, the most interesting point is that GE - or at least their workers - are getting hurt. With all the political contributions that GE corporation gives to dems and all the propaganda coverage that GE's television network gives Obama, it's a real surprise to see even them getting damaged.

I'm sure that while this factory is going out of business, our children and grandchildrens "stimulous" tax dollars have probably paid for a new automated factory with 1/10th of the workers cranking out the crappy eco-bulbs that no one really likes. The factory is probably owned by a dependable democratic party contributor or maybe just some democratic politicians' inlaw or mistress.

Posted by: johnny on September 9, 2010 04:19 PM
11. I heard about this yesterday! I was furious! I was furious in 2007 when this junk legislation got passed by the Democrats (and yes, Pres. Bush was wrong to sign it!), who love to tell us how pro-choice they are. Well, how about you give me a choice of which lightbulb I want to use, instead of taking that away, (which was dumb!) while telling me it's just ducky for me to kill my own child--but DON'T think we will let you choose your own lightbulb! Noooosirreeeee! THAT would be terrible!

So those jobs are going. Jobs have been lost with Obamacare....just heard recently of a health insurer back east who started letting people go due to Obamacare regulations. I TOLD local employees of my own health insurer that Obama wanted to kill off their jobs. Some understood, some didn't. Now they will be believers.....

Please spare us these kinds of laws that try to destroy industries!

Posted by: Michele on September 9, 2010 05:13 PM
12. From ILib:
"CFLs contain mercury. You didn't know that? Just a drop you say? How about up to 5 milligrams per lightbulb. If all 4 billion incandescent sockets were filled with CFLs we'd have 20 billion milligrams of mercury spread around every single US household. By the way, 20 billion milligrams is nearly 50,000 pounds amongst 300 million people."

Posted by: carter on September 9, 2010 06:03 PM
13. Instead of you know, ADAPTING, GE just acts like a spoiled brat and closes up shop. Geez this capitalism stuff is hard, huh GE?

Posted by: Tyler on September 9, 2010 06:14 PM
14. I have a light fixture in my house that's on a rheostat so I can turn the brightness up or down as I see fit. Fluorescent lights are not dimmable; they're simply on/off devices. What am I supposed to put in those fixtures when incandescent bulbs are unavailable?

Posted by: RBW on September 9, 2010 06:17 PM
15. #13: Companies ADAPT to what the MARKET asks for. That's perfectly normal and expected in a capitalist system. What they DO NOT ask to have to adapt to is elitist leftists who think that it's okay to ban otherwise safe products on a whim----telling us we can't choose which lightbulb we want, while outlawing entire industries.

Liberal fascism on display....while they wonder where the jobs have gone....

Posted by: Michele on September 9, 2010 09:24 PM
16. Hey, for once it is Bushs' fault!

Posted by: mark on September 9, 2010 09:36 PM
17. #16:....but mostly the Democrat congress' who came up with the lame idea in the first place! Do you really think President Bush would have asked for such anti-business legislation on its own?

Posted by: Michele on September 9, 2010 09:43 PM
18. I bought a whole closet load of the old style incandescent light bulbs, so screw Congress. At least I'll be able to see when the bulb checkers come a searchin...

Posted by: gs on September 10, 2010 03:13 AM
19. 17 No, I was being sarcastic. I miss him, at least he didn't hate America.

Posted by: mark on September 10, 2010 06:48 AM
20. Why do people feel the need to make nasty comments about being liberal or conservative? I am not sure how that resolves problems. I think that real problem is us against them (the average against the elite). Maybe the real reason most companys have left is the fact that they can pocket more money for their CEO's and not pay living wages here...
As far as saving electricity, most people don't want to give up anything even if it means that their children will pay later. Just look at the housing crisis, many Americans lived way beyond their means and the rest of us will pay for it. The government is now forcing all of our children to pay for the waste of others...

Posted by: skoksvalley on September 10, 2010 06:51 AM
21. Skoksvalley-
The whole "us versus the elite" thing is so much BS. It's a shame it's become a union mantra echo'd by every marxist college professor in town.

Truth is that if you want to talk about making our children pay for waste, you need to look at government - not business. A great place to start is with that trillion dollar "Stimulous" porkfest. Your children and grand children will be paying for that bigtime.

You speak about CEO's pushing jobs offshore as if that's what they want to do. You know, manufacturing used to be done in places like St. Louis MO, Detroit MI, and Dayton, OH. and still would be if unions and government didn't push them offshore. You think these CEO's want to deal with supply chain and shipping logistics over international borders, much less the red tape of two governments? They would really sleep a lot better if they didn't have to.

You speak about the housing bubble as if it's really the problem that sank our economy. Do your homework - the housing bubble is a blip compared to the derivatives mess that was created right under the nose of our government regulators.

(It was pretty hard to miss to mess developing mess either - few businesses in the world have as much regulatory reporting involved with them as those in investment and banking. This is why I laugh out loud when I see Obama trying to make the case that failures in business are the reason to ramp up government control.)

Electricity is easy to produce if environazi's back off and let us use hydroelectric and nuclear power just like the rest of the world is using. (Small footprint nuclear reactors compact enough to be housed in a building smaller than an average gas station are coming, but I doubt the granola eating hippies out there will ever allow one to be built in U.S. neighborhoods though they'll probably sprout up like weeds all over Europe and South America.)

Wood, too, is a re-usable resource and last time I checked, the raw materials that are used to create cement aren't rare either. Housing is not something we have to rob children for in order to have a comfortable home.

I have no disagreement that we should watch what we dump in the Earth, but thats a sanitation problem that I tend to believe we can answer. The solution is not to throw on the breaks and go back to the stone age.

Posted by: johnny on September 10, 2010 08:17 AM
22. For all of you whining about poor GE having to close their factory, I read an artical a year or two ago that said that GE lobbied for this bill because they wanted to close their incandescent operations down. Seems they can make CFL's in China cheaper than they can make incandescents in the US. They were worried that there would be no market for their CFL's, though, so they got he law passed to protect their profits. This was done entirely for the benefit of GE. I'm all for business, including big business, and I don't fault GE for trying to optimize their business. They have an obligation to their shareholders to do so. But for Congress and the President to fall for it, well, my regard for politicians of both parties couldn't get any lower.

Posted by: deedub on September 10, 2010 12:46 PM
23. deedub, if that's true, then even bigger shame on the democrats for taking away what people still want. If GE truly doesn't want to manufacture incandescents here, then they can stop any time they want. Who cares if no one wants to buy flourescents. A lot of people hate those things. But we don't need to force people to use them. Somebody else will pick up the ball to make them anyway, if GE stops. Congress should not pass laws that forbid a product that people still want no matter who wants to or doesn't want to make it. Shame on congress. Let the market sort it out. This law wasn't needed.

Posted by: Michele on September 10, 2010 10:26 PM
24. I'm "hoarding" incandescent bulbs. I was po'd when I learned that the good men/women in Congress declared incandescent bulbs null and void in '12. I asked an employee at Lowe's if he was trained in haz mat rules regarding mercury spills. He looked at me like I was nuts CFLs for sale, how does Lowes or any other warehouse store clean up the hazmat? So, I'm stashing in every nook and cranny my incandescents. OBTW, GE is the leading manufacturer of LED lights. And being a femme, where is my right-to-choose?

Posted by: Gingadecorgi on September 14, 2010 07:42 AM
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