November 11, 2006
Tebelius Must Go

Diane Tebelius has led the Washington GOP to a singularly pathetic showing. She ditched traditional Republican candidates, stiffarming them in favor of spectacularly worthless candidates like Mike McGavick. Diane Tebelius must go, and the RINOs who have hijacked our Republican Party must go with her. Now. Without preamble or ceremony.

Traditional Republicans who are faithful to the foundational values of our Party must act now. Act with your checkbooks. Act with your voices. Act with your votes. But by all means- ACT!

Posted by ERNurse at November 11, 2006 01:54 AM | Email This
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1. Too true ERNurse. I can tell you the one thing that I saw/heard during this election was that allot of people have stopped giving to the national and state party for the very reasons you mentioned. Allot more people are giving to the candidate of choice. I can tell you that I got a call from the state party asking me for money and I told them no that I would give it to the candidate of my choice. They tried to tell me that they would make sure it helped out all candidates. Of course I knew this to be a lie, because the party would only give to the so called "electable" candidates. This is why I urge everyone to check out the candidates in their area and give to the ones that they feel deserve it. Perhaps if we do this the money will be better spent on true representation and the party may just get a clue.

Posted by: TrueSoldier on November 11, 2006 09:17 AM
2. Examples of conservatives that can win elections in Washington state next time around anyone?

Posted by: Bill Cruchon on November 11, 2006 10:55 AM
3. I'm still waiting. How about Linda Smith, or Bob Williams, or John Carlson? Good solid conservatives all. Did they win? Of course not. Give Diane a break. This was an off-year election in the second term of a presidency, compounded by an unpopular war and a hostile media. Even Ronald Reagan got shelled in this election cycle in his day. Is this what we do when we lose, start calling for people's heads? I think we are better than this.

Posted by: Bill Cruchon on November 11, 2006 06:15 PM
4. And by the way, who are the "traditional Republican candidates" that Diane "ditched".

Posted by: Bill Cruchon on November 11, 2006 06:21 PM
5. A day later and I'm still waiting ERNurse. If there are good conservative candidates out there please tell us all who they are?

Posted by: Bill Cruchon on November 12, 2006 10:47 AM
6. Part of Tebelius' job is to help identify good candidates. Perhaps you (Cruschon) should pull your head out of your backside and stop touting the arrogant WSRP status quo/useless entrenched talking heads. People like you are no better than a left-wing liberal.

Posted by: PierceLayman on November 12, 2006 11:14 AM
7. Nice well thought-out response PierceLayman. Do you have anything constructive to say?

Posted by: Bill Cruchon on November 12, 2006 12:59 PM
8. Bill, I have no idea if there are any traditional conservatives being boosted by the WSRP.

Do you know why? Because the WSRP is not boosting and traditional Republicans. They're stiffarming them in favor of McCains wannabes. That's preceisely why I have not heard of any. What say you, O wise one?

Posted by: ERNurse on November 12, 2006 08:00 PM
9. The blame cannot lay on Diane. That's ridiculous. Just in my district you're telling me Luke Esser and Bret Olson are not traditional conservatives? One of the few republicans who's likely to win, Dave Reichert, is a moderate . . . I'm sorry, but a 'traditional' republican would have lost in the 8th this year. The reality is we live in a blue state, in a year where across the country folks voted against the President, no more so than in Washington. To say traditional conservatives would have done better in this state is untrue. And the elections results of the election is evidence of this. Traditional conservatives (Esser, Olson, Jan Shabro, etc.) lost, and lost big. The blame cannot be put on Diane.

Posted by: Brad on November 12, 2006 08:30 PM
10. "Bill, I have no idea if there are any traditional conservatives being boosted by the WSRP."

ERNurse, you state in your original post, that Tebelius "ditched traditional Republican candidates" I ask a simple question and as I expected you can't name these people. I also think it's a fallacy that more conservative candidates would have stood a better chance of winning if that's your point here. I named several traditionally conservative candidates of recent memory of illustrate my point. See Brads post at #9 for further clarification.

Posted by: Bill Cruchon on November 13, 2006 09:35 AM
11. Dinae Tebelius and the rest of the state GOP should shake up the national leadership. Reports abound that the same idiots leading the GOP today, are poised to keep their positions. Boehner, Blunt and Hastert ought to go. I urge conservatives to e-mail the State and KCGOP and tell them to back Pence and Shaddegg as replacements

Posted by: John425 on November 13, 2006 10:53 AM
12. I have to side with Bill on this one. Who are these traditional Republicans you keep talking about? And speaking of traditional Republicans, do you mean traditional like Barry Goldwater, or do you mean traditional like Ellen Craswell? There is a huge difference between my "old time" traditional Republican and the type who stoled the party from us in 1992. Remember that fun year? We had anti witchcraft and U.F.O.s in our state platform.

Traditional Republican means, fiscal conservative (don't have any of those around), allowing business to run unfettered, and staying the hell out of people's personal lives - that means being pro-choice (like Barry Goldwater) and pro stem cell research, like the Reagan family. When we find candidates like that, we will win. Not with this Neo-Republican crap we see from right wing nut jobs.

Posted by: the duke on November 13, 2006 10:58 AM
13. The '92 platform was against teaching witchcraft in SCHOOLS, which was happening and I think you're making the UFO thing up just to spread the myth of the Republican left that the '92 platform was wacky. In 10 years, I suppose you'll be blaming McGavick's loss (which was worse than Ellen Craswell's by the way) on the '06 platform I suppose.

Reagan's family was not elected president--he was. And he would have been against embryonic stem-cell research because of his view of the unborn child. After all he said this:

I have often said that when we talk about abortion, we are talking about two lives � the life of the mother and the life of the unborn child. Why else do we call a pregnant woman a mother? I have also said that anyone who doesn't feel sure whether we are talking about a second human life should clearly give life the benefit of the doubt. If you don't know whether a body is alive or dead, you would never bury it. I think this consideration itself should be enough for all of us to insist on protecting the unborn.

Posted by: Michelle on November 13, 2006 07:59 PM
14. Oh, and for the record, most people now consider traditional Republicans those who agree with the positions Reagan took on the issues. That includes some of the positions of Barry Goldwater combined with those of Ellen Craswell. Those were the issues Reagan championed, and he won in landslides! But not only because he held those positions, but because he could debate the issues.

Posted by: Michelle on November 13, 2006 08:03 PM
15. A candidate with charisma would help the Republicans alot. Ellen Craswell had negative charisma and was too far right for most - the weakest candidate in the last 12 years.

It is OK to be conservative, but how about having a candidate with a personality - like Dino Rossi or Rob McKenna ? Diane Tebellius could also use a personality transplant. Phil Spackman would like to see Susan Hutchison as the head of the WSRP, which would be a substantial improvement - she has a personality.

Posted by: KS on November 13, 2006 10:06 PM
16. I'm an active (R) in conservative Okanogan County, but I'm also a realist; and as I get older I have less and less patience with doing things political just to ''make a statement'':
I'm into WINNING.
So I'm with Bill Cruchon, Brad, and the Duke on this one.

Dino Rossi and Rob McKenna are prime examples of the kind of (R) candidates we need more of, in order to have a realistic chance of winning State-wide.

One more thing: To call Mike McGavick a ''spectacularly worthless candidate'' is uncalled for, counter-productive, and most of all WRONG:
I had the privelege of talking to Mike several times in 2006, and I walked behind him in the Silverdale Whaling Days parade; where he got a great reception from a large crowd. The simple truth is that it was a big ''wave year'' for the (D)s; both nationally and in WA. Except perhaps for Dino, I doubt anyone could have done better against Cant-vote-Well this year. For sure someone like Linda Smith or Ellen Craswell would have done WORSE (don't kid yourself).

The fact that Burner just conceded to Dave Reichert puts an exclamation point on the perceptive point Brad made earlier:
''a 'traditional' republican would have lost in the 8th this year.''.

Brad also said:
''To say traditional conservatives would have done better in this state is untrue.''

For WA in 2006, I will add to last above:
CLEARLY untrue. That's reality. We have to deal with it, and do better next time.

Posted by: Methow Ken on November 13, 2006 11:10 PM
17. OK Bill, I'm going to call you on this one. Name one fiscal, social, national securoty conservative you have backed for this election cycle. Don't worry. I'll pull up a seat.

Posted by: ERNurse on November 13, 2006 11:10 PM
18. If you blame McGavick's loss on the "wave year for the democrats" and say Ellen Craswell would have done worse, how do you explain the fact that in the year she ran for governor, got 3 points higher than McGavick with only a portion of the funding and absolutely no help from the RNC? And what would you say were the major accomplishments of the Dole administration? hmmmmmm?

Reichert is only winning by the skin of his teeth. Don't forget, he got a lot of help from the National Right to Life (wrongly directed IMO, but nonetheless, he did have more of their help than did any other congressional candidate in this state.)

Posted by: Michelle on November 14, 2006 10:21 AM
19. Responding to ERNurse at #17. Steve Beren here in the hopeless 7th District.

Again, I don't know who all these potential candidates are that meet your litmus test and it doesn't appear that you do either. So give poor Diane a break, this was an awfully tough year to elect Republicans.

Posted by: Bill Cruchon on November 14, 2006 10:36 AM
20. Responding to #17, I maxed out in my and my families support of Doug Roulstone in the 2nd. We need more candidates like him, in a good R year, when somebody might stand a chance of winning.

What we need are people who are fiscal, national security conservatives, who are pro-business and stay the hell out of people's personal lives!! Then you will see people get elected in landslides, dare I mention Rob Mckenna, Doug Southerland, Sam Reed, Ken Eikenberry, and Slade Gorton all R's who fit that bill and hummmm, oh yeah, GOT ELECTED. Keep the nut cases out of the R party!!

And nobody ever taught witch craft in a school in this state - what sort of demented mind thought of that - and I was there in 92, and there was talk of a UFO ammendment. I believe it was labeled the "kooky convention" and that was by people who attended.

Posted by: the duke on November 14, 2006 12:56 PM
21. "Nobody ever taught witchcraft in a school in this state" I'll bet you're as sure about that as you are the ?

"What sort of demented mind came up with that?" Perhaps some of the parents of students in these schools. A lot of PC crap goes on in public schools! And the interest in witchcraft among young people has been on the rise for quite some time, if you hadn't noticed.

"Stay the hell out of people's personal lives"????
Is killing another human being somebody's personal life, just because that person happens to reside in a woman's body for the time being?

Most people in this state don't know the range of political positions of Doug Sutherland or Sam Reed. They figure someone with an R next to his name on environmental policy, for instance would do lesser harm than someone with a D next to his name. Similiar for Sam Reed, but that is quickly changing. Slade Gorton was defeated, you'll remember. And most conservatives (fiscal and social) assume Rob McKenna is one too (on all issues). He is talented at serving up the red meat at Republican events. However, his calling the immigration plank of our platform "against the constitution" will cost him the votes of those who will saw that or remember it when his re-election comes around.

"Talk of a UFO amendment" does not mean that it was in there. If one person in a crowd of 800 stands up and moves to make a "UFO amdendment" and it is widely defeated, how can you brand the whole convention "kooky" on that basis. The "people who attended it" who called it "kooky" are just as "kooky" as the guy who might have made the motion for saying so.

Posted by: Michelle on November 14, 2006 03:25 PM
22. The second sentence in the above comment should read,

I'll bet your as sure of that as you are of the UFO stuff being in the platform.

Posted by: Michelle on November 14, 2006 03:28 PM
23. Re: "the duke" at 12 and 20:
1. Your assertions about '92 are lies, pure and simple. I'll bet you $20,000. I have the platform in my file drawer, you inveterate slanderer. Take my bet or admit you're lying.
2. You have no clue how politics works or what is viable. Your prescription for social liberalism and "fiscal conservatism" (which "conservatism" would, should you attempt to define it, vanish like the dew) is what made the Libertarian Party the roaring success it is today.
3. We mean "traditional" like Ronald Reagan, obviously. You mean "traditional" like Paul Tsongas. Neither the legalized slaughter of children, nor the involuntary human medical experimentation you favor were issues when Goldwater ran in 1964. (BTW, if he is your electoral model, uh, how'd he do?)
4. If you seriously mean "staying the hell out of people's personal lives" the way you want to apply it, you are actually an anarchist, because there is no function of government that does not limit personal choices. It's called Law. Governments make and enforce laws. That's what Laws, do. They restrict choices. They limit your personal choice to get drunk and run red lights, in white mazdas, or to kill your own children, or to boink canines. Wake up.
The reason Mike McGavick tried so hard to fool the Party on his position on human life was because he recognizes what you do not. Pro-abortion Republicans can't win Senate or Gubernatorial races in Washington. Compare Dino's win with Mike's defeat. When Ken Eikenberry became Attorney General he claimed to be pro-life and ran that way in his failed bid for Governor. When Slade Gorton became Attorney General he was an unabashed across-the-board LIBERAL. Rob McKenna was claiming to be "against" abortion in 2004. Doug Sutherland, to the best of my knowledge, has never made an issue of abortion in his LAND COMMISSIONER races, though his land use policy is pure liberalism. Sam Reed is not conservative on ANYTHING. Slade has lost more races for Senate that Ellen Craswell and in every loss he had the full support of the State Party and the advantage of incumbency. Your liberal heroes lose more, for more offices, spending more money, and by the widest margins.

Posted by: Doug Parris on November 14, 2006 05:27 PM
24. doug, doug, doug, I am sure you do have a copy of the 92 platform, I pitched mine in the garbage can as fast as I could. And from then on took the advice of one of my winning state wide elected officials (Joel Pritchard) and have never gone within 200 miles of a convention writing a platform.

I will answer your last line by asking you who are the current Republican elected officials statewide? Are they they as conservative as you would like? But jeez, they just keep on winning don't they? Please name for me the last state wide official (Republican) who was anti choice. Please, I'm waiting (sound of jepardy theme song playing in background).

Now, (and I am going to type this real slow so you get the whole thing) we need conservatives who can win, that means we may not get everything we want in them, but we should at least try for fiscal conservatives who are pro-business at the state level and at the federal level we should add in strong on military issues - which in my book means you at least served a day. When we go beyond these "traditional" Republican issues (and I am going back to Ike here) we run afoul of the voters and then we don't get anything.

Unfortunatly I have met too many neocons who would prefer to not have a Republican win if their candidate doesn't toe the line on their social agenda, which by the way was not in any national Republican platform until the 1980's.

As to your assumption that I don't know how politics works, let's see; 4 years at the RNC, 4 years at the WSRC, another 20 years managing campaigns, of which my pro-choice buddy Ken E was one, naw you are right I don't know anything about campaigns, by the by how many winning campaigns have you managed?

Posted by: the duke on November 14, 2006 05:50 PM
25. Hey doug, just went on to the Reagan wing web site, you win, you scare the poop out of me, you guys are totaly, completly, absolutly kooky. I did find out though by reading your stuff that I am classified as a "big business" republican. Is that bad? HA HA HA I really do love making money!

Posted by: the duke on November 14, 2006 06:10 PM
26. Unfortunatly I have met too many neocons who would prefer to not have a Republican win if their candidate doesn't toe the line on their social agenda, which by the way was not in any national Republican platform until the 1980's.

So you want to take us back to the pre-80's Republican Party? Ah, those Rockefeller days, yes. You know, the Democrats love big business too. They sure like the money they get from big business. And they're pro-choice too. Sounds like a great fit for you duke! The greedy, self-centered baby boomers that will soon baby bust themselves out of existence!

Posted by: Michelle on November 14, 2006 08:05 PM
27. Don't waste your time, Michelle; "the duck" is a RINO who supports across-the-board liberalism which he re-defines entirely by prevarication. None of the candidates he supported were conservative on anything. Zilch. Nada. Nothing.

We should scare the poop out of you, duke. We are your replacements.

How did your boy, McGavick do, duke? Joel Pritchard, indeed. You are the Republicans who were pro-choice on Slavery. You were the Republicans who were pro-choice on the Third Reich. You were the "voodoo" button wearers whose judgment having been trusted, would have led us deeper into CarterLand, 20% interest rates, double-digit inflation, and appeasement of the Soviets through left-wing diplomacy. You are the most destructive force in American politics, Liberals who [used to] get Republican votes by lies. But no more, Mr. Weicker. No more, Mr. Evans. The worm has turned. Watch Sam "call me Christine" Reed's next vote totals, duke. Watch how your beloved McCain fares even with every conceivable advantage from your liberal buddies in the Mainstream media. Winners? No more. Go join the party you agree with, duke. You have no part of the GOP. You are the men attempting to usher in National Socialism. You are anything but "pro-choice." you don't want the freedoms protected by the Constitution. You support the eradication of the billions of choices aptly represented by the bones of the humans you've murdered. Children who will never get the choice to play ball or run or play or see the sky. As an apologist for the biggest tax increasers in Congress (back in the years when they could still win) you are against all the choices U.S. citizens could be making if the government gave their money back. You are against all the free choices of the Central Americans your heroes tried to keep under Marxist rule in the '80s. You oppose the free choices to use their land by both rural and urban property owners of the entire state, delivered, by your illegal Growth Management Act, into the hands of government. You are against the choices of the parents who want their children to get an academic education, a public impossibility owing to your HB1209 Outcome Based Education debacle. I get weary tallying up the ravages of your legacy.
You want us to believe you ran winning campaigns? I can't remember anyone named "the duke" doing any of that. Grow a spine and use your real name if you want us to give any credence to your claimed accomplishments, particularly since you've already been caught in a blatant lie. While you're at it come up with the name of any Republican you've elected to a Statewide legislative office who is fiscally conservative. Just one.

What about the $20,000, duke? Put your dirty money where your mouth is.

Posted by: Doug Parris on November 14, 2006 09:53 PM
28. I promise not to comment on Tebelius until I learn to pronounce her name.

Posted by: Mike Barer on November 14, 2006 10:50 PM
29. Mike @ 28 - Ta-bail-yus, if we believe the Seattle Post-Intelligencer's endorsement of her.

Posted by: Alcon Nighthawk on November 15, 2006 02:20 AM
30. Responding to #15: OK, Bill. I acknowledge that.

Posted by: ERNurse on November 15, 2006 01:55 PM
31. Actually, Bill, on second thought, I rescend my acknowledgement. Even though Beren is conservative, he surrounded himself with party hacks, which disqualifies him. When he can shake off the jackasses in elephant suits, he'll garner my respect.

Posted by: ERNurse on November 15, 2006 09:40 PM
32. Look at the PDC's.

The state party spent most of it's money on Reichert.

The big story is HROC in Olympia. It spent $230k on loser challengers and only $70k on protecting incumbants. We lost too many incumbants like Woods, Shabro, Buck and more this election. Now Frank Chopp is going to kick our butts.

Posted by: Follow the money on November 17, 2006 01:02 AM
33. Follow the money,

You cant tell how much they spent on those candidates, it looks like they sent a lot through the state party and other PAC's to protect incumbents. You dont know what you are talking about. They sent over $100k to the party, over $100k to other PAC's. What did you do armchair quarterback?

Posted by: conservative activist on November 17, 2006 06:36 PM
34. HROC did give the party $140k ... and it may have went to mailings since the party has a cheaper mail rate than HROC .... but you can't tell which candidates they helped. Based on phone conversations I have had with campaigns, it's obvious the money was spent on either conservative incumbants or whack-job challengers that had social conservative credentials. Moderate legislators such as Bev Woods, Jim Buck and Barbara Bailey got zilch help. Bev had 13 hit pieces against her ... and no mailing from HROC or the party. Only the Mainstream Republicans helped her. HROC did spend $5k for a doorbelling campaign for her ... but that's it.

Is it a coincidence that the caucus members who have been critical of HROC's Director Kevin Carns and Richard DeBolt's leadership were betrayed?

I can't believe DeBolt was re-elected Minority Leader yesterday. He should have been dumped ... and all the HROC staff fired. I guess the right-wing whackos of the party never want to be in the majority.

Posted by: Follow the money on November 18, 2006 11:06 AM
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