1. This just seems lost on Obama and his fellow democrats. Go figure.

Posted by: Michele on July 29, 2008 02:45 PM

2. What gets me are the men who say they are for abortion with no disclaimers.

At least Clinton wanted to make abortions rare.

Posted by: swatter on July 29, 2008 03:50 PM

3. At least Clinton wanted to make abortions rare.

That "rare" dodge absolutely infuriates me. The claim is that abortion is a "right". One assumes a "right" is a good thing, so why do you want it "rare"?

If it's "safe and legal" why should it be "rare"? Doesn't the fact that you want it "rare" imply that there's something wrong with it?

If abortion is a fundamental constitutional right, why should it be "rare"? Can you think of any other basic right that we would want to be "rare"? Which other right do you value that you want to make "rare"? Free speech? Liberty? Speedy Trial?

Posted by: Ragnar Danneskjold on July 29, 2008 10:34 PM

4. At least Clinton wanted to make abortions rare.

You know, I never understood that. Why DID Clinton want to make abortions rare? There's nothing wrong with abortion, right? So what's the big deal? Why do we even make ado about it? It's become so convenient these days that you can add it to your errands. Grocery store, dry cleaning, abortion, dog groomer - all in an afternoon. Clinton said that abortion should be "safe, legal and rare." Well, as Ragnar pointed out, if it's "safe" and "legal" - why should it be "rare?" If abortion is such a good, moral, righteous thing - why don't we ENCOURAGE it? Why don't we see billboards? "Have YOU had an abortion today? Call Planned Parenthood at 1-800-GO-ABORT." Again, as Ragnar said, if abortion should be "rare," then doesn't that NECESSARILY IMPLY that there's something WRONG with it? Possibly something even immoral? If the "pro-choice" camp supports abortion, then why do they say that abortions should be kept to a minimum? If abortion is such a good thing, why do people call it such a "tough decision?" Seems to me that Clinton - heck, ANY pro-abortion supporter - who buys into this "safe, legal and rare" bit is nothing but a hypocrite. "Abortion is a good thing... but, um, don't do it. Because it's bad." See how stupid that is?

If it's a good thing, then why should it be rare? If it's a bad thing, then why should it be a right? Pro-abortion advocates cannot escape that fundamental hypocrisy in their ideology. Period.

Posted by: AT on July 29, 2008 10:41 PM

5. The left really loves abortion. And they also love not having children. How many hard core lefties do you know that have never had kids? Usually pretty uptight people. Incapable of understanding the wisdom brought by the responsibility and selflessness of parenting.

But hey, at least they are assuring the demise of their ideological demographic.

Posted by: Jeff B. on July 29, 2008 11:10 PM

6. My wife is anti-abortion and would do just about anything to discourage someone from having an abortion.

Yet, she is free choice- a women's body and all.

The two opinions seem strange to me.

It was those two options I heard Clinton talk about. Obama, OTOH, seems to be in the pro-abortion camp. Period.

It is a tough road to hoe, but at a minimum, can't we force pregnant women to view some of the sonograms of the babies in the womb before they make their decision to abort?

Posted by: swatter on July 30, 2008 08:04 AM

7. Ragnar: Great cartoon. Don't be confused by the "rare," "right," "safe and legal" rhetoric. It's just genocidal euphemizing propaganda by the mattoids we're permitting to gradually destroy our civilization. It's a one-sided war: They're killing us with social weapons, and we're not fighting back. They have pre-positioned opinion gatekeepers throughout society to limit and manipulate any opposition. Fortunately we still have the internet, but even that is no substitute for direct physical action and defensive deadly force against the mass murderers and war criminals who commit unspeakable crimes against humanity. It's a target-rich environment. Our survival demands we fight fire with fire. Words won't work; that's how we got screwed in the first place.

Posted by: The Pirate on July 30, 2008 09:04 AM

8. Liberals are supposedly about the 'little people' and how much they 'care' about us.

BUT think for a moment on all the ways they support killing us:

- They promote and embrace abortion.
- They have promoted radical feminism, homosexuality, the rise of sex-culture, the death of marriage and emasculated men which has destroyed hundreds of thousands of lives via sexual disease, single motherhood, and poorly cared for children.
- They support the "right to die".
- They celebrated the euthanasia of Terry Schiavo as a victory.
- They hate the "star wars" weaponry (and all military) that would protect us.
- They coddle and commiserate with the terrorists that want to kill us.
- They support organizations that put animals above humans.
- They want to hinder and/or destroy the technology that has advanced civilization to bow at the altar of environmentalism.
- They're willing to burn millions of pounds of crops, that could be used to feed millions, in order to support biofuels, which, by the way, are completely inefficient.
- They're willing to let people starve rather than embrace cloning and genetic food maniputation.
- They're willing to let disease spread rather than use pesticides (and, sometimes, vaccinations.)
- They want us out of our safe, big cars for proven "donor-mobiles" known as Smart Cars.
- They fight rational immigration policies.
- They work to protect dangerous law-breaking illegals.
- They embrace leaders of oppression while dengrating those that promote freedom.
- They hate guns with which we can (and do!) protect ourselves.

They tell us they do all this "for our benefit".

I just wonder, how many of us do they have to kill, in how many more ways, in order to help us?

Posted by: Ragnar Danneskjold on July 30, 2008 01:32 PM

9. WARNING TO MINDLESS LIBERAL SHEEP: DO *NOT* DARE TO WHINE THAT YOU DIDN'T KNOW IT WOULD HAPPEN, THAT IT'S NOT WHAT YOU EXPECTED. ACTIONS/CONSEQUENCES, FOOLS.

State officials have determined that chemotherapy would be too expensive and so they have offered him an alternative: death.

Saving lives is the announced intention, but if government gains the power to determine when a life is no longer "worth" saving and orders the plug to be pulled or the death pill to be administered, then what? This is the future of the socialized medicine that Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama and the Democratic Party wish to impose on us.

In a culture that values all life, difficult decisions can be made about a life that is at an end and should be allowed to "go." That is a far cry from having a government bureaucrat or panel of "experts" play God and decide, based on cost alone, when your or my life no longer has value in the eyes of the state.

I need to go throw up now.

Posted by: Ragnar Danneskjold on July 31, 2008 11:39 AM

10. You know the best part? The lives that won't be "worth" saving - yea, that'll the poor. Whom the Democrats are always promising to help.

I find it oddly hilarious that Democrat ideology mirrors that of a Texas rancher. "Well, damn. This horse is lame. Ain't worth keepin' around anymore." *BLAM*

Posted by: AT on July 31, 2008 12:03 PM

11. What I find so fascinating about that cartoon is not the mention of Obama, but the raw numbers themselves. That's no simple coincidence that such a grossly disproportionate number of abortions among black women exists. Planned Parenthood seeks out predominately black neighborhoods in which to set up shop.

Does the word "eugenics" ring a bell to anyone?

It's sick. They prey on those communities. Absolutely disgusting.

Posted by: Cydney on July 31, 2008 11:18 PM

12. Oh, and as a side-note:

Ragnar, I JUST figured out where your screen name is from: Atlas Shrugged. I'm currently listening to the unabridged version on my iPod, and I just reached the chapter where he's mentioned. When I first heard it, I thought, "That name is SO familiar...where have I heard it?" And then I came on SP just now, and it all clicked.

Crazy.

Posted by: Cydney on July 31, 2008 11:30 PM

13. Cydney, you didn't see the back and forth between Rags and Bruce Guthrie during the primaries? It was a Battle of the Titans, for sure.

Posted by: swatter on August 1, 2008 07:36 AM

14. I just finished reading Feminists say the Darndest Things by Mike Adams... (oh, I know I will be excoriated for being such a mean man ... shhh, don't tell them the truth!)... and in the midst of his mockery and humor (page 109) he says"

How is a support for abortion considered a "remedy" of injustices against women and minorities given that (a) most babies that are aborted are female, and (b) over a third of babies aborted are black even though blacks constitute only 13 percent of the population.

Posted by: Ragnar Danneskjold on August 1, 2008 01:02 PM

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