September 02, 2009
HATERS DENIED AGAIN!!! R71 REMAINS on the ballot.

We've seen the rank bigotry of the fringe leftists infesting us. They're so predictable and easy to manipulate. But then, they'd have to be, or they wouldn't BE leftists to begin with.

That said, their ongoing effort to deny us the right to decide this question, a typical issue when it comes to a will of the people they might not like, took it in the nards today when a King County Judge ruled that their bogus, nonsensical efforts to silence the people on their garbage position was as worthless as the rest of their bigotry.

Spector said in her ruling that "the court recognizes the concerns raised by the plaintiffs regarding the validity of a significant number of petitions and signatures in this case."

But she also said the law does not require the secretary of state to refuse to accept petitions that do not meet state law and that it is unclear whether there are limits to the secretary of state's discretion to accept petitions.

Furthermore, Spector said, the King County Superior Court has no authority to prevent the secretary of state from accepting the petitions with questionable signatures, and that those challenging the signatures can only do so after the referendum has been certified.

Any challenge to R-71 would have to be brought before the Thurston County Superior Court within five days after the referendum is certified, she said.

It akes a special kind of hatred and bigotry to deny the people the right to determine this, or any issue granted us by the Constitution of this state, the kind amply illustrated by the leftist bigots commenting on my last post.

Posted by Hinton at September 02, 2009 12:08 PM | Email This
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1. liberals are bigots?!?

riiight, when it is conservatives dbags, due to their own hatred or intolerance towards gays and lesbians, that are pushing for the denial of equal rights. can you guys get any more hypocritical? i didn’t think it was possible.

for all you a**hats that claim anything the left does denies your rights, this sure is friggin rich.

i look forward to the day your movement finally flails.

Posted by: mike on September 2, 2009 12:36 PM
2. BIGOTS are bigots. In this case, you leftist scum carry the mantel with your efforts to silence the people of this state on this or any other question.

The kneejerk fringe left line is to claim "racism" whenever anyone is smart enough to oppose the policies of that empty suited, Anti-American racist bigot you people elected; or to claim "bigotry" whenever anyone opposes the gay agenda.

YOUR declaration, that somehow to be a liberal absolutely precludes you from practicing bigotry just serves to confirm my initial observation: name calling and kool aid drinking is all you've got.

As for "my" movement "flails?"[sic]

What say you hold your breath until that happens, OK?

Thanks. Much appreciated, dilwad.

Posted by: Hinton on September 2, 2009 04:01 PM
3. i'm not saying that liberals are or aren't bigots, i'm just shocked that a bigot like yourself actively pursuing the curbing of rights to american citizens is calling those that want equal status for their fellow americans bigots.

can you be any more hypocritical? i think not.

and like i said, conservative movement is in it's last throes, especially w/ asinine referendums like this.

all we have are name calling and kool aid? funny, i remember conservatives being handed a rather dubious a** whooping last election after 8 years of conservative lies, hypocrisy, fearmongering and dbaggery. you really think americans want that again? man your parents must have been proud of you.

Posted by: mike on September 2, 2009 04:55 PM
4. You have heard this before...Not all American citizens deserve equal status. Criminals don't deserve equal status with non-criminals nor do couples who don't meet the criteria and meaning of marriage deserve equal status with those couples who do. Get it? Of course, you don't.

FYI...The majority of the American people are waking up to what a Lying Farce Obama is. His poll ratings are down in the low forties.

Posted by: Daniel on September 2, 2009 06:15 PM
5. funny how republicans hate polls until they are in their favor (more hypocrisy!) btw, republicans in the senate are even lower than reid or pelosi. chew on that.

gays aren't criminals.

and gay sex ain't criminal, otherwise you'd be in jail, dannny-boy.

face it, you are a bigot. and a liar. btw, ref. 71 ain't even about gay marriage. but i'm willing to bet you are too ignorant to even know that.

Posted by: mike on September 2, 2009 09:30 PM
6. You've lost all credibility. R-71 is certainly about gay marriage. A "yes" vote on Referendum 71 on November's ballot would expand existing domestic partnership rights for gays and lesbians to offer all rights currently offered to married heterosexual couples. For all practical purposes, you have become a non-entity. Which means, you have become completely irrelevant. What a Surprise.

Posted by: Daniel on September 2, 2009 10:31 PM
7. reading fail, daniel. you're an effing joke. the only way this even got on the ballot was lying to petition signers.

it's not about gay marriage, it's about domestic partnership rights. the bill specifically states it is not marriage. furthermore, they already were granted these rights, the referendum is an attempt to repeal them.

that you would keep gays and lesbians from visiting their partners in the hospital speaks volumes about your intolerance and inability to follow your own god's teachings. domestic partnership is not marriage, clown.

what is it like living life in a shroud of hypocrisy, hatred and intolerance, daniel?

but if you really think civil rights should be an issue of popular vote, there are a few rights conservatives should probably have rolled back. that work for you, clown?

Posted by: mike on September 2, 2009 11:04 PM
8. You poor ignorant Liberal. It has everything to do with gay marriage. The rights the gays want are the same rights that the marriage heterosexuals have. You can call them domestic partnership rights or you can call them gay marriage rights. The shoe still fits. What a Dolt!

Posted by: Daniel on September 2, 2009 11:16 PM
9. believe what you want, daniel.

you're just a bigot concerned only w/ denigrating the rights of fellow citizens. so gay partners shouldn't be able to visit each other in the hospital? do you really believe that? what a moron.

so not only can't you follow the Word, you can't follow the constitution. wowsers. keep pushing that intolerance and hatred, daniel. it will get you far in life w/ your neo-nazi brethren.

Posted by: mike on September 3, 2009 07:14 AM
10. Your such a Lying Dolt! It's not about having the right to visit each other in the hospital. It's about the gays and their so-called partners having all the same State Rights as married couples. What a FARCE!

Posted by: Daniel on September 3, 2009 07:36 AM
11. daniel, have you even read the bill? i doubt it...

it is, actually, about hospital visitation rights. it's about granting gay partners and straight elderly domestic partners the same rights granted to married couples. lots of non-religious and even anti-religious couples are afforded these rights. all i asked was if you thought gays should be afforded soem of those rights. i forgot you lack the ability to think, just lying and misrepresenting the word of god.

these are a few of the rights that gays were granted and you want to repeal because you are a bigot:

• The right to use sick leave to care for a domestic partner.

• The right to wages and benefits when a domestic partner is injured, and to unpaid wages upon the death of a domestic partner. ¦ The right to unemployment and disability insurance benefits.

• The right to workers' compensation coverage.

• Insurance rights, including rights under group policies, policy rights after the death of a domestic partner, conversion rights and continuing coverage rights.

• Rights related to adoption, child custody and child support.

• Business succession rights.

Posted by: mike on September 3, 2009 07:43 AM
12. No, I have not read the bill but, I do understand the bases of the meaning of the bill. It is set up to repeal the unfair rights that the gays enjoy currently, of equal footing (same rights) that heterosexual married couples have. In no way should those rights be allowed and extended to the gays....PERIOD! Does a heterosexual boyfriend have the right to have Sick Leave to take care of his sick girlfriend? The answer is NO! Then, why should a gay boyfriend have the right to have Sick Leave to take care of his sick boyfriend? This goes for any of the rest of the rights that should be only exclusive to married heterosexual couples yet, at this time, are shared by the gays and not equally among the non-married heterosexuals. Is that fair for the gays to claims rights that the rest of the non-married do not have? Of course NOT!

Posted by: Daniel on September 3, 2009 08:10 AM
13. no, i have not read the bill

wow, daniel... why am i not surprised you haven't bothered to read the bill.

you are an even bigger bigot than i thought, some real intolerance for your fellow man, there. jesus is uber proud.

also, is being entirely hypocritical your favorite past time? or does being an insufferable, intolerant bigot come naturally to someone like you?

obviously you don't understand the meaning of the bill if you think it gives gay domestic partners rights that straight dating couples don't have. you're an idiot. you're a bigot. you've got zero standing in my eyes, and probably in god's. righteous!

Posted by: mike on September 3, 2009 08:22 AM
14. You have not answered the fundamental Question. Why should gays have rights the heterosexuals do not? You can't answer the question nor support in any way why gays should have more rights than heterosexuals so, you reduce yourself to name calling. What a Surprise! You do realize that these rights cost the general public money in the increase cost of doing business, don't you? Why should I or anybody else pay for the special rights for the gays when, I and others are not allowed to share those same rights. You do realize that the Liberals proudly stand shoulder to shoulder and knee deep in Evil and Filth represented by every depravity on the face of the Earth, don't you? Let's see....They proudly stand for the killing of babies. They proudly stand for Socialism which has an on going history of destructive results in greatly reduced lifestyle for man not, to mention the killing of hundreds of millions of people which includes tens of millions of babies in America alone. Liberals choke the prison system of every stripe of crime and depravity imaginable. The Liberals in Truth, represent Slavery and Despair far more than, they represent Freedom and Happiness. Yeah...You're a proud Liberal and sound like it.

Posted by: Daniel on September 3, 2009 11:24 AM
15. daniel,

i know you are an intellectual giant. gays should have the same rights as heteros because we are all americans, dumbass.

and if you are honestly saying gays shouldn't have the same rights as heteros, you are a friggin idiot (nothing new there...)

btw, studies show it costs MORE money to deny gays their rights.

i know facts don't matter to you and history is too difficult to comprehend.

i look forward to when the state laughs at your bigotry and hatred and overwhlemingly supports gay rights.

Posted by: mike on September 3, 2009 12:03 PM
16. You're Lying again. I said gays should not have rights that heterosexuals do not have. I explained and gave examples as well, to back up my position. However, you choose to ignore and just, repeat your Lies to the point you begin to believe your own Lies as well. You can't face the Truth about what history and realities of being a Liberal is all about. You can have all kinds of so-called studies to support a position and some studies are Bogus! Tell me, how having the special rights the gays claim, saves Society money. You can't do it because it is a LIE! You're a Liberal LOSER and have proved it on this forum and other threads many times. If you had any worthwhile awareness as to where it is at, you would simply disappear from SP. It has been way too much for you.

Posted by: Daniel on September 3, 2009 12:36 PM
17. i'm not lying, moron. your examples are pathetic (much like your arguments and so-called beliefs that you can't seem to follow) and aren't applicable.

and you are right, the blatant hypocrisy and denial of reality on this site has been too much for me. but then again, it would be too much for any rational person.

still not convinced you are a bigot?

btw, here is your study on the positive economic impact of legalizing gay marriage:
http://law.ucla.edu/WilliamsInstitute/publications/washington%20econ%20study.pdf

Posted by: mike on September 4, 2009 12:27 AM
18. mike...I checked out your link that supposedly supports your Ridiculous claim that it costs MORE money to deny gays their rights than it does to give them their so-called rights. The essence of the Link claims the State will boost the State budget by $3.9 million to $5.7 million annually from increase sales tax revenue from the weddings and weddings related tourism. Really? There is going to be many, many Giant weddings from gays per year to bring in that kind of income for the State from the increase sales tax revenue generated? What a Laugh! Also, there is some Crap about how much money will be saved if one happens to be working and the other who wasn't will now, not be drawing monies from the State for their support. What a Joke! How about if both are not working? How about now ,there are two and the income for two is now, low enough to draw State funds for food stamps etc.? The whole link is a bunch of Slanted Pumped up Lies to support gay marriage. Only a Fool such as, yourself would believe such phony Crap. Remember, Liberals are known not only as Liars but, as Easy Believers as well. How about the increase cost to the Private Sector in allowing sick leave? The increase cost of workers compensation? Those numbers are real and can add up very quickly. Naah...You're a Liberal and Liberals don't know up from down and are a Pain and a Drag on any Society.

Posted by: Daniel on September 4, 2009 08:33 AM
19. @17-18: Wow, when faced with an actual argument, Daniel just handwaves it away. I'm starting to believe that he is just some liberal dude, looking to make real conservatives look like absolute fools through satire (and capitalization!).

Bravo! You've done a great job!

The simple truth is this: the anti-marriage folks behind R-71 want to keep some people from forming households because of their own beliefs. If I were to be part of your (sick and twisted) religion, then sure, your church could refuse to bless that wedding. Until everyone joins your (hateful and evil) religion, though, I'd prefer not to be governed by its rules. I have my own God, thank you very much... and apparently He isn't a complete dick like your god is.

Posted by: demo kid on September 4, 2009 08:54 AM
20. i see, when confronted w/ a rational defense, you branch off into spewing hatred, vitriol and lies again, daniel.

you aren't going to get into heaven with that attitude. and dontcha find it highly ironic calling liberals easy believers, when you believe in a non-existent god? hilarious.

you mean science and art and history are a drag on society? man, your world view is seriously confusing, daniel.

Posted by: mike on September 4, 2009 09:10 AM
21. Well, if it isn't demo shit. The snake that periodically crawls out of the weeds to Hiss and spill his Venom. Once again your Lying. In no way did I hand-wave away mike's Liberal position. I gave explanations and pointed out the untruths of his position. For you to say it was just a hand-wave, is just, another Lie. What a Surprise!

Your god appears to be satan since you are for the Killing of millions of babies for starters. If that isn't twisted, I don't what is. You and mike seem to be a pair, joining hands as you slip into damnation.

Posted by: Daniel on September 4, 2009 09:17 AM
22. mike...You and demo shit are full of Crap! But then, you're Liberals, screaming in the dark. You two have proved one thing, you prefer Lies to Truth. Such a Deal! Show me one Socialist country that provides for its citizenry more abundantly than America. One outstanding proof that even Liberals can't Lie around is that where others may be starving, America has the Fattest Poor People in the World.

Posted by: Daniel on September 4, 2009 09:29 AM
23. danielle,

your god must be inktomi, the lakota god of deceit.

cos it's certainly not the christian one w/ your lies, haughtiness, etc. in fact, i would say your attitude is devoutly anti-christian. in fact, you may even be an atheist like me!

Posted by: mike on September 4, 2009 09:31 AM
24. Every time you post, you and demo shit demonstrate less Validity and more Lies...If that's possible.

Posted by: Daniel on September 4, 2009 09:39 AM
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